I just showed you proof of enlargement. I have gained 2 inches in length and almost an inch in girth in less than a year. also my flaccid hang is about 1.5 inches bigger
How To Get Over Being Small
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go back to page 9 of this post. I posted photos.
@spaj8987 Thanks for your comprehensive thought out response, and of course you make some extremely valid points. I appreciate them.
But...
I consider myself a reasonably intelligent guy who has shown great curiosity and no lack of critical analysis on this subject. To use your analogy of cum rain... well, maybe I would tend towards believing that rain consisted of cum if everyone joked about it derisively; people said they'd actually witnessed said cum rain; some people said they simply did not like cum rain because when it fell on them they didn't feel anything; people used specific finger signals to mock cum rain that they'd had the misfortune of encountering; cum rain was mentioned as part of the ridicule culture on everything from the Internet to magazines, newspapers, movies; and I'd also probably believe in cum rain after hearing Lily Allen tell thousand of cheering women at a music concert that she'd had some cum rain and it was the worst thing in the world. If cum rain just showed up without some supporting droplets, well... girls, you can dump that cum rain's ass.
I jest of course, but you get my point...
But...
I consider myself a reasonably intelligent guy who has shown great curiosity and no lack of critical analysis on this subject. To use your analogy of cum rain... well, maybe I would tend towards believing that rain consisted of cum if everyone joked about it derisively; people said they'd actually witnessed said cum rain; some people said they simply did not like cum rain because when it fell on them they didn't feel anything; people used specific finger signals to mock cum rain that they'd had the misfortune of encountering; cum rain was mentioned as part of the ridicule culture on everything from the Internet to magazines, newspapers, movies; and I'd also probably believe in cum rain after hearing Lily Allen tell thousand of cheering women at a music concert that she'd had some cum rain and it was the worst thing in the world. If cum rain just showed up without some supporting droplets, well... girls, you can dump that cum rain's ass.
I jest of course, but you get my point...
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Here's the trick: Lay crossways to her. You can now slide in and hold the wand tight against the base of your cock as you thrust. Yes, it stimulates clit at times. But really it vibrates your cock in her. It's the world's best vibe. It will work with even a 3" cock.
Lots of guys are 5”. Look at some homemade porn to reference. My four fingers are a little over 3 inches across. A great deal of blowjobs I see show the woman with he hand around the base and only the head and a bit more sticking out. A chics fingers are probably 2.5” across.
When you go to piss always shake your dick out a bit, it will relax it and hang a bit.
I’m just under 6 and a bit over 5 around. I had a friend with a huge dick and we had sex with a lot of the same girls, mostly strippers. I could get them away from him with ease. The vast majority of women do not care unless you have a micro penis.
You are on the small side of average.
When you go to piss always shake your dick out a bit, it will relax it and hang a bit.
I’m just under 6 and a bit over 5 around. I had a friend with a huge dick and we had sex with a lot of the same girls, mostly strippers. I could get them away from him with ease. The vast majority of women do not care unless you have a micro penis.
You are on the small side of average.
Thank you for that, you've now given me a worthwhile Christmas task
Thanks for the encouraging remark. I guess I know I'm small average rather than small, and definitely clear of micro territory. The thing that annoys me is that I'm tiny flaccid which has led 'friends' and others to mock. It's not exactly like I can respond with 'Wait, I'll get hard to show you I'm not tiny.' Haha. So in the cases ive referred to in this thread, I've become the 'micro guy' in friend circles, with co workers, in sports teams etc. and yes, I promise you that people really are that cruel. If there's an insecurity there already, as there is with me, it can really fuck with your mind.
I'll tell you one group of guys I really have the sincerest compassion for and that is micro guys. Because unless they've fetishized their smallness, they surely must suffer with both women and male 'friends' in this fucked up world. At least I have the private knowledge of knowing I grow to a generally ok size. Thank God for 'smaller than average' mercies I guess.
Finding ways to please others is beside the point. You can always prostrate yourself. We are talking about socio-sexual status.
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Why would you though? Why would you lean in that direction when there are lots of clues out there in the world that those people are either wrong, not accurate or are only saying about as much for other reasons and are therefor superimposing their own faults onto you? What exactly would you get out of that vs what you would get out of asking questions?
I say asking questions again because there are many more questions you could be asking before you get to it well people are saying it so i should feel it.
Don't get me wrong. While i have no idea how it feels to have a small one. I do know how it feels to be a black man in america. I also know how it feels to be a black man in america that isn't the stereotypical manly man. And i know what it feels like to be a black man in america that isn't the stereotypical manly man while feeling the need to tell people when they're wrong about women. And i know what it feels like to be a black man in america that isn't the stereotypical manly man while feeling the need to tell people when they're wrong about women and the lgbtq community. So on and so forth. Each time i've corrected anyone on those groups of people or others i was going up against an insane amount of automatic ridicule. So i know what it feels like for the world to seemingly be against you. Difference is, i asked and ask questions while doing so.
As an example. If men with small dicks are that undesirable how has humanly kept up their numbers? When people insult others other their body, race, religion, sexuality, political affiliation, family, history, taste of music, their opinions on anything and so on does it automatically mean what they say is accurate? Odds are very good it isn't. Because right off the bad insults are meant to hurt. And no one in their right mind intends to hurt another human without first being hurt. If i or you have not hurt them. And it isn't a retaliation. Then odds are good those people aren't in their right minds.
So yeah, i get your point. I get your jest. Do you really understand mine though? Really. How many times do you think i've been called the n-word in my life? Do you think that since i've been called that almost the same amount of times as my name in many different ways that i just accept myself as that? Or do and did i ask more questions?
It isn't. From what i hear that's a very large portion of why men with smaller dicks view themselves as less than. Because they think they can't please people. Because other people think they can't please people. My question is, is it true? Or is it much more complicated?
Also, socio-sexual status doesn't mean nearly as much as you might think it does. I have a larger one and it's been almost a decade.
spaj8987 said:
A somewhat recent study at UCLA determined that women prefer 6.3”x4.8” for a long term partner, and 6.4”x5” for a one night stand.
That sounds encouraging for the average / slightly above average guys (like me). But that’s not necessarily what the data says. If you look at the actual data set, their preferences are all over the place. The ranges are lengths from 4” to 8.5”, and girths from 3” to 7”. There’s a hell of a lot of difference. Some like short and fat (4x6), some like long and thin (7x3). Note that the test subjects didn’t just throw numbers out there. They chose from dimensionally different 3D printed “phalluses”. They held in their hand their preferred size.
Ignoring the mathematical average, and looking at actual women’s choices; there are a whole bunch of respondents who find something in the 5x4 range ideal.
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I actually heard about the first one you posted. Some even took that to mean that women only like larger guys for casual sex once in a blue moon. Still though you hit the nail on the head of what i was alluding to. Thank you for that.
You’re welcome. Note that both my links are the same study. The PLOS (first) link has the study and figures, and the figshare (second) link has the dataset.
@spaj8987 I'm glad you mentioned being a person of colour. This was a reference I wanted to include in my original post but didn't feel it appropriate. Now I guess I can.
The first time I truly got a glimpse into what it must be like to be a black person in a white world was when my girlfriemd told me about a Caribbean guy she'd dated in her twenties. Macho, masculine, alpha. Except when they went anywhere where there was a police presence, then this man was reduced into a quivering wreck of terror. He felt every police eye on him. He knew they were watching him because of his race, that their presumptions were negative, toxic. It upset her so much, she said, that for the first time she realised what it meant to be discriminated against. When she told me that story, I also truly 'got it' for the first time. Being white, I of course have no concept of the realities of being exposed to a system that's tilted against you because of your skin color.
Not for a moment am I conflating the issues of inherent societal racism with penis size shaming. They are of course world's apart and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. What I am saying is that when my girlfriend related this anecdote, I mentally flipped through my narrow personal frame of reference, and came to the worst of many times I've been size shamed, and I thought 'oh, so now I know how that Caribbean guy felt - singled out in a negative sense for a physical attribute he can't control. Except of course that that physical attribute in his case was worn for everyone to see and therefore he couldn't conceal it to avoid negative attention, like a guy with a small one can.
For the first time in my life I had a brief glimpse of what it might be like to be black in a white world, and I identified even though I'm a white in a white world.
The size moment for me was in my early twenties, I'd agreed to play soccer, which I love, with a few co workers I got on with. There was communal showering afterwards and I felt defiant about getting naked despite my insecurities. My thought process went: I know I've had comments at school and in college but hell these guys clearly like me, I like them, and it's not like I'm a true micro. Fuck it, I'm gonna man up. What are they going to say anyway?
Turns out there was loads they could - and did - say. Everyone had a good look and some openly sniggered. I braved it out, acting like it was the most natural thing in the world to have 1 inch softie, inside I was dying, knowing I'd made a huge misjudgment. It only took a couple of days before word had got around the office and several people outside my soccer circle - including, excruciatingly, women - were making small dick references almost daily, many directly to me.
Needless to say, I never went to a soccer match again. And I harboured a deep resentment, even dislike, of my 'friends' who I felt had blabbed and been disloyal. Believe it or not, I actually left a very good company with a promising job because I couldn't take it anymore. I had to brace myself for the comments and barbs. Some days there'd be nothing and I'd be hopeful that they'd all forgotten. But then someone would say sonething and the horror would come back.
No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't shake the humiliation, embarrassment, shame. And the frustration that these guys somehow thought they were better than me - had one up on me - because I was small. And I'm now in my fifties but because I can't fetishize this shame, as many small men do, I have no way of dealing with it other than asking questions on forums like this.
I hope you understand my predicament a bit better now. It may be ridiculous and irrational in many peoples' eyes, but unless you're an inherently insecure person like myself, and been subjected to penis size shaming abuse, it's probably difficult to understand how it can affect your sense of self.
The first time I truly got a glimpse into what it must be like to be a black person in a white world was when my girlfriemd told me about a Caribbean guy she'd dated in her twenties. Macho, masculine, alpha. Except when they went anywhere where there was a police presence, then this man was reduced into a quivering wreck of terror. He felt every police eye on him. He knew they were watching him because of his race, that their presumptions were negative, toxic. It upset her so much, she said, that for the first time she realised what it meant to be discriminated against. When she told me that story, I also truly 'got it' for the first time. Being white, I of course have no concept of the realities of being exposed to a system that's tilted against you because of your skin color.
Not for a moment am I conflating the issues of inherent societal racism with penis size shaming. They are of course world's apart and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. What I am saying is that when my girlfriend related this anecdote, I mentally flipped through my narrow personal frame of reference, and came to the worst of many times I've been size shamed, and I thought 'oh, so now I know how that Caribbean guy felt - singled out in a negative sense for a physical attribute he can't control. Except of course that that physical attribute in his case was worn for everyone to see and therefore he couldn't conceal it to avoid negative attention, like a guy with a small one can.
For the first time in my life I had a brief glimpse of what it might be like to be black in a white world, and I identified even though I'm a white in a white world.
The size moment for me was in my early twenties, I'd agreed to play soccer, which I love, with a few co workers I got on with. There was communal showering afterwards and I felt defiant about getting naked despite my insecurities. My thought process went: I know I've had comments at school and in college but hell these guys clearly like me, I like them, and it's not like I'm a true micro. Fuck it, I'm gonna man up. What are they going to say anyway?
Turns out there was loads they could - and did - say. Everyone had a good look and some openly sniggered. I braved it out, acting like it was the most natural thing in the world to have 1 inch softie, inside I was dying, knowing I'd made a huge misjudgment. It only took a couple of days before word had got around the office and several people outside my soccer circle - including, excruciatingly, women - were making small dick references almost daily, many directly to me.
Needless to say, I never went to a soccer match again. And I harboured a deep resentment, even dislike, of my 'friends' who I felt had blabbed and been disloyal. Believe it or not, I actually left a very good company with a promising job because I couldn't take it anymore. I had to brace myself for the comments and barbs. Some days there'd be nothing and I'd be hopeful that they'd all forgotten. But then someone would say sonething and the horror would come back.
No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't shake the humiliation, embarrassment, shame. And the frustration that these guys somehow thought they were better than me - had one up on me - because I was small. And I'm now in my fifties but because I can't fetishize this shame, as many small men do, I have no way of dealing with it other than asking questions on forums like this.
I hope you understand my predicament a bit better now. It may be ridiculous and irrational in many peoples' eyes, but unless you're an inherently insecure person like myself, and been subjected to penis size shaming abuse, it's probably difficult to understand how it can affect your sense of self.
That is incorrect for people with an "oversized" penis
That is caused by high or low flow priapism..
I have High Flow Priapism my self, I actually had a event on Saturday morning..
I have been rejected because of being "too big" and not having enough experience .. It's a ∞ perpetual motion of rejection
then there is low flow and you end up with a deformed limp penis...
Of course there are other factors influencing negative status besides a small penis. Being a Black in America is one of them, especially, so I hear, is even worse. Yeah, sure small guys like to focus on "not being able to please", but that, often is a sublimation or code for less status.
Ever hear women screaming at a concert or performance? It's not usually about dick size. It's about perceived status.
Yes, exactly. I'll even admit we "should" be able to handle it, some guys can. That makes us feel even worse.
