Is it possible to be a straight man and not enjoy penetration sex? What are your thoughts, straight men?

[Cum_is_Great]

I personally think its absolutely possible.
Just curious as I am a gay man who does not like penetration sex. I don't like or want to stick my dick in anyone nor do I really like dicks in me. I am a "Side" (gay man who don't indulge in anal sex) but it's very unknown to the masses even among gay men, I assume even less so in the heterosexual world. Is there even an equivalent in that world?

Do you straight men think a man can be straight but NOT want to penetrate a woman and rather any other type of sex with them? Or would you honestly think he is NOT straight. Whether you think it means they are actually gay or asexual or whatever. (Admit it, if a straight man said he didnt like PIV and only liked getting pegged by women, some of you'd probably think of him as "Not Straight". I've heard this MANY MANY times over the years so it isn't like I am making this up lol)

Honestly I just opened this topic to hear ideas about "the other side of the coin of being a side". What are your thoughts? Any men who actually fit the topic question want to give their experiences and thoughts?

 

[Evenflow618]

No

 

[cofrader]

I don't want to know how people fuck in private I want to be able to sleep at night make it simple you love men then you are gay no matter what kind of sex you have and the same goes for anyone.
If a straight men is on a relationship and gets almost completely paralyzed and can only command the thumb I bet he will try to keep fucking her with it.
So for me is technically possible but highly unlikely.
Point for originality.
Point for involving yourself, we get a lot of invisible/missing/eatenByTheDog papers that are supposed to support a no sense question.

 

[iamjustme65]

Absolutely not.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

I do appreciate all answers but really would like some explanation. Just saying "No." really doesn't help me... I even added context and reasoning. I just would like yours is all. I have no agenda to call straight men gay or bisexual. I am not fetishizing you guys. I am not disguising this as a wank question. I'd honestly just like some elaboration and conversation. I'd hope the more thought inducing questions that arent just gay fantasy fap fuel would be appreciated...

 

[huguest]

Hey!,

I appreciate your question, because you do seem to try to get a real answer.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but the straight community on LPSG is pretty small. So you will not find the very rare case that your describing here.

But logically, a men can get very sick if he doesn't wank at some point. And a vagina is 100X better than a hand. So I would say any men would choose a vagina.

Except in those case :
- trauma (violated or raped) (yes men can be raped by women)
- Sexually Transmitted Disease
- humiliation ( too small to penetrate and don't want to show it)
- deformation (doesn't fit)
- asexual in some case (just do not want to fuck)
- extreme sensibility ( I had that ounce, where my dick was too sensible)
- moral abstinence ( will not fuck my sibling)
- etc...

But you get the point, it's all exception. Keep in mind that the biggest sexual organ is the brain. If the brain is not inline with the sex, it will not work. That's why straight men are not Bi sexual.

That question keep coming up all the time, why straight men are not Bi... Well it's because the mind is programmed like that. And that programming is call "straight". We have no intension of changing it.

But like all programming, it's possible to change that. Only with a LOT of work. Do the % in the profile. Just like you could with some mind programming, change the way you view sex.

I do think orientation is a mind set. But a part of that mind set is set at birth. Just like a left handed can reprogram is ergonomic to use is right hand.

It's all up to you, what you want. It's possible to undo trauma.

I do that all the time, I'm a hypnotherapist

 

[Cum_is_Great]

Hey!,

I appreciate your question, because you do seem to try to get a real answer.
I'm sorry to disappoint you but the straight community on LPSG is pretty small. So you will not find the very rare case that your describing here.

But logically, a men can get very sick if he doesn't wank at some point. And a vagina is 100X better than a hand. So I would say any men would choose a vagina.

Except in those case :
- trauma (violated or raped) (yes men can be raped by women)
- Sexually Transmitted Disease
- humiliation ( too small to penetrate and don't want to show it)
- deformation (doesn't fit)
- asexual in some case (just do not want to fuck)
- extreme sensibility ( I had that ounce, where my dick was too sensible)
- moral abstinence ( will not fuck my sibling)
- etc...

But you get the point, it's all exception. Keep in mind that the biggest sexual organ is the brain. If the brain is not inline with the sex, it will not work. That's why straight men are not Bi sexual.

That question keep coming up all the time, why straight men are not Bi... Well it's because the mind is programmed like that. And that programming is call "straight". We have no intension of changing it.

But like all programming, it's possible to change that. Only with a LOT of work. Do the % in the profile. Just like you could with some mind programming, change the way you view sex.

I do think orientation is a mind set. But a part of that mind set is set at birth. Just like a left handed can reprogram is ergonomic to use is right hand.

It's all up to you, what you want. It's possible to undo trauma.

I do that all the time, I'm a hypnotherapist

Thanks for your detailed response! I am actually in agreement with you!

Though it all does seem to make you think, what exactly is the criteria for being straight/heterosexual Or gay/homosexual or bisexual. There' tends to be a lot of purity tests and "no true sctosman" fallacies when discussing such a topic but I still like hearing people's opinions and personal definitions on such things. As long as everyone is respectful!

I think we all have our own personal definitions and criteria of sexuality and assume that what we think/feel is what EVERYONE does as well. On the outside it really is very much similar but deep down when applying nuance and scrutiny, some opposing contrasting and contradictory views may arise.

Challenging them is honestly difficult and not everyone is comfortable analyzing their world views. Like @cofrader said, some people really just dgaf and would rather things be simple or plain. And I respect that! And there's a kind of simple beauty to such an answer.

Honestly none of this truly matters in the big picture and I can see how those who don't care or arent affected may see it as pushing a possible agenda or something. But ultimately I ask to challenge views and provoke thought and self reflect. I suppose that would be my "hidden agenda" haha. Ultimately to have people realize there so many contradictions, exceptions and such that its silly when people police other's sexuality so harshly! But also to see the diversity in thoughts and experiences we have collectively!

I love the beauty of the paradoxical nature of such things. It shouldn't matter and absolutely should at the same time!

Oh and I didn't think I'd find someone like myself but straight necessarily but it didnt hurt to ask if one of them are out there reading, now or in the future!

 

[huguest]

Thanks for your detailed response! I am actually in agreement with you!

Though it all does seem to make you think, what exactly is the criteria for being straight/heterosexual Or gay/homosexual or bisexual. There' tends to be a lot of purity tests and "no true sctosman" fallacies when discussing such a topic but I still like hearing people's opinions and personal definitions on such things. As long as everyone is respectful!

I think we all have our own personal definitions and criteria of sexuality and assume that what we think/feel is what EVERYONE does as well. On the outside it really is very much similar but deep down when applying nuance and scrutiny, some opposing contrasting and contradictory views may arise.

Challenging them is honestly difficult and not everyone is comfortable analyzing their world views. Like @cofrader said, some people really just dgaf and would rather things be simple or plain. And I respect that! And there's a kind of simple beauty to such an answer.

Honestly none of this truly matters in the big picture and I can see how those who don't care or arent affected may see it as pushing a possible agenda or something. But ultimately I ask to challenge views and provoke thought and self reflect. I suppose that would be my "hidden agenda" haha. Ultimately to have people realize there so many contradictions, exceptions and such that its silly when people police other's sexuality so harshly! But also to see the diversity in thoughts and experiences we have collectively!

I love the beauty of the paradoxical nature of such things. It shouldn't matter and absolutely should at the same time!

Oh and I didn't think I'd find someone like myself but straight necessarily but it didnt hurt to ask if one of them are out there reading, now or in the future!

We could philosophy a long time on this topic.

The biggest error you could do is generalise everything. Sex is intimate, it the most personal view you could have. Yes every experience is unique, that's why it's so hard to ask for view point on a forum.

We should all (me included) ask question at the first person. "I" feel like that or "I" perceive this.

You know, on the "straight vs Bi" thing on LPSG, when the vast majority is gay or bi. When someone call himself straight it's pretty clear. Just like a gay pass thought some validation before calling himself gay. Straight men here are sure of their orientation no doubt about it.

Since Bi define "all in between" gay or straight. Calling yourself 100% gay or 100% straight it's pretty finite.

hahaha, yes @cofrader is very lucky, simplicity of not questioning is a blessing.

You know, when you ask question about a personal trait. Your in pursuit of a validation. Nobody can give you any validation, they are not you. They can only argue and contradict you and your giving them power over you. My answer to you would be : If it's make you happy. Keep going. Because in life, the soul purpose is to be happy. If it's make you miserable, well then do something about it. Change can only come from you.

The rest is futile.

 

[ronin001]

If I were over 80, I may say possibly

 

[deleted814719]

I think that penetrative sex is hard-wired in males. Look at the animal kingdom. Nobody and no animal is out there teaching the males of the species about fucking. It just comes naturally. Hell, when you first learn to make out, no one needs to tell you that you should start touching a woman in a particular place. It seems to come naturally. And for me, once I saw my first pussy in real life, I knew just what it was for and how my member was supposed to fit.

I'll be 70yo next month and the wife is in her late 60s. PIV sex for her has become uncomfortable even with lots of lube. We're down to once monthly (if I'm lucky) where I can put my dick inside her. She gives me regular oral sex and handjobs and while scratching my "itch", these are no truly satisfactory substitute for PIV.

 

[H.ricky]

I enjoy penetrative sex so for me I personally the answer is no. Of course as mentioned above there are always exceptions but as a simple answer no.

Even if I just want head from a woman at a particular moment my overall outlook is that sex is typically what I prefer

Interesting question … actually

 

[raleighguy1962]

No.

 

[techpump]

I am compelled beyond reason or my own willpower to want to penetrate a woman's vagina. Sometimes the thought is so compelling it makes me hard with my pants on. PIV sex is so enjoyable sometimes I hate when I feel my orgasm coming on, or if my wife needs me to finish because she can't take it anymore. Sometimes I just want to be inside her pussy and not move, its that good. When I touch my wife and find that she is wet, my cock gets hard in a few seconds and starts dripping precum and I MUST be inside of her so bad. Sometimes I can feel it in my teeth. So I would say the vast majority of straight men, if they feel like me, find PIV sex to be something they not only crave but really enjoy.

 

[lapdog2001]

Do you straight men think a man can be straight but NOT want to penetrate a woman and rather any other type of sex with them? Or would you honestly think he is NOT straight. Whether you think it means they are actually gay or asexual or whatever. (Admit it, if a straight man said he didn't like PIV and only liked getting pegged by women, some of you'd probably think of him as "Not Straight". I've heard this MANY MANY times over the years so it isn't like I am making this up lol)

If a straight man (sexually & emotionally attracted to women) didn't like PIV I wouldn't think of him as gay or bi, but I would wonder if something happened that would preclude him from enjoying PIV sex?
Was there some kind of sexual trauma? Injury?

I am a straight man and I absolutely love PIV sex and oral sex as well. I actually enjoy PIV so much that I can't understand the straight men that pull out and cum on their women's asses, faces, breasts, etc. every fiber of my being is telling me to pump all my cum deep inside the vagina of the woman I'm with, and that included the many hundreds upon hundreds of times I did just that while wearing a condom.

You are who you are, and like (and don't like) what you like. That's your normal, and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[notthatguy]

I would not want to live if I couldn’t penetrate a pussy multiple times daily on average.

 

[flagship]

I guess I’m kind of what ur talking about. I was a huge germaphobe most of my life. Still deal with it to some extent. Ever since I knew what sex was, I wanted to have penetrative sex, but was also pretty disgusted by vaginas. It’s a wet hole, basically stuck in a big armpit. Has to be covered in piss and shit particles. Really my worst nightmare as a youth. I wanted sex, but was also terrified I wouldn’t be able to deal with it if I put myself in that situation.

(Don’t get it twisted, I have 0 attraction to men, men gross me out way more than women.)

But I’m also autistic and don’t talk to people so never actually had sex until last year. Had sex with this girl 6 times. Didn’t enjoy it, didn’t cum half the time. jerking off is much better imho. I enjoy being naked with women and cuddling, sex just doesn’t do it for me.

But I still want to have penetrative sex, I still jerk off fantasizing about sex or watching porn. If I knew a girl that wanted to bang me, I’d hit her up immediately. I just doubt that I’d actually enjoy it.

 

[Alex22876]

I think it is possible, but not likely. It is amazing so…

All joking aside, there is a whole bunch of nature behind penetration too. So beyond the feeling, there are all kinds of hormones that generate intimacy and passion from it. Nature wants us to procreate, so evolution ended up with all kinds of positives.

 

[cofrader]

I guess I’m kind of what ur talking about. I was a huge germaphobe most of my life. Still deal with it to some extent. Ever since I knew what sex was, I wanted to have penetrative sex, but was also pretty disgusted by vaginas. It’s a wet hole, basically stuck in a big armpit. Has to be covered in piss and shit particles. Really my worst nightmare as a youth. I wanted sex, but was also terrified I wouldn’t be able to deal with it if I put myself in that situation.

(Don’t get it twisted, I have 0 attraction to men, men gross me out way more than women.)

But I’m also autistic and don’t talk to people so never actually had sex until last year. Had sex with this girl 6 times. Didn’t enjoy it, didn’t cum half the time. jerking off is much better imho. I enjoy being naked with women and cuddling, sex just doesn’t do it for me.

But I still want to have penetrative sex, I still jerk off fantasizing about sex or watching porn. If I knew a girl that wanted to bang me, I’d hit her immediately. I just doubt that I’d actually enjoy it.

Give it time with you autism you have done huge advances.
I think you could take the topic to your therapy.
I can relieve one of your fears, the pussy won't have any shit , it's extremely sensitive and gets angry at the slightest contact . My wife must wash her underwear only with neutral soap or the pussy gets sick.
About pee with a shower you can relax it's another hole but just in case.
Condoms can help you too, serves as a protection and you are not touching anything but you feel everything.

 

[njfellow2002]

First off....you are defining sexual identity by the act purely, not the emotional side of things. So yes A guy can be straight, regardless of having any kind of sex, if he is attracted to woman. And visa versa... Guys like yourself, with penetrative sex, prefer men. ...makes you no less gay that a guy that engages in male gang bangs.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

First off....you are defining sexual identity by the act purely, not the emotional side of things. So yes A guy can be straight, regardless of having any kind of sex, if he is attracted to woman. And visa versa... Guys like yourself, with penetrative sex, prefer men. ...makes you no less gay that a guy that engages in male gang bangs.

I honestly agree with you. But if you read some of the responses, you'll see your fellow straight men aren't in unison about it! I saw some gay men saying something similar so I was curious how straight men would answer. It seems some straight men say not liking or craving intensely the sexual act, then you aren't straight. (Of course some with no further explanation other than "No." Haha)

Also I appreciate everyone giving detailed answers. Im sorry I didn't reply to each one. I haven't been feeling so great lately mentally but I truly appreciate each answer given. (Even the short ones haha)