Is this a gay scenario?
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I definitely have a question about this "scenario'. Do you two guys talk about what's happening or are you both in denial about it? like you go through the motions but pretend nothing is going on? Just wondering....
I would like to argue the point made earlier about "straight best friends don't do this". I actually know many who do. It's nothing sexual at all between them. More of a "there's one porn vid, one couch, one tv, and two friends that are comfortable with each other to not give a damn" situation. Something has to give and if you just don't care, then why not? It has no impact at all on your sexual orientation. It's like saying public showers are a gay situation.
What do public showers have to do with sex? That's a ridiculous analogy.
[Edit: The scenario the OP described, stripping down and following his friend around jacking off is also rather different from two buds jacking off on the couch watching a porno, whether there's any rationalization going on or not. That first scenario and the OP's further comments suggest strongly it does reflect on his orientation. Speaking of rationalization, your post is full of it.]
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My first thaughts was, it is weird.
Weird bacause you get naked in his house. I guess he is not ??
Then when you mentioned you guys have a gistory and have fooled around, it was not that weird any more, but then got weird again, when you said you would have to wait a long time for him.
Not weird, is you sitting in a room, jerking off, and he comes in to give you a beer etc. Weird is when you walk around, naked, jerking off.
Weird bacause you get naked in his house. I guess he is not ??
Then when you mentioned you guys have a gistory and have fooled around, it was not that weird any more, but then got weird again, when you said you would have to wait a long time for him.
Not weird, is you sitting in a room, jerking off, and he comes in to give you a beer etc. Weird is when you walk around, naked, jerking off.
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No it's not a bad analogy. The point is that neither of them have much to do with sex. Unless you count masturbation as sex of course. It's the point that there is nothing sexual between straight friends jacking off to a porno, just as there is nothing sexual about public showering, and as such neither of them have any bearing on your sexual orientation at all. Also if you read my post it was in response to something someone else had said. Not this situation with the original poster which obviously reflects something of his sexual orientation after his repeated posts. You misread me, or assumed I was talking about something I wasn't. I stand by my statement. It's not uncommon for straight guys who are comfortable around each other to jack off to a porno, and it doesn't have to reflect at all on their sexual orientation.
Oh, okay. I get it now. Two buds jacking off together to porn is no more sexual than some random guys being naturally and asexually naked in an open shower getting clean. Have I got that straight?
And mastrubation is nothing sexual, right?
p.s. If you're responding to another post that's relevant to your meaning, it would be helpful to quote it.
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ohh, dont worry, 99% of guys just get naked and jerk off in front of their buds while they do random chores.
The question posed seeks to establish a line, and people have different beliefs about where this line is drawn. These beliefs are at the very heart of what makes us individuals: it's not a gay scenario unless ... it's a gay scenario if ... it's a gay scenario while ...
Simple logic works well at the level of an individual scenario, that is, simple logic may accurately describe a single instance of data in a very large set. However, this very simple logic rarely works well when applied to larger sets of data.
The problem with such simple logic is that simple logic reduces human sexuality to a few simple rules that work well for developing broad classifications. Yet there are far more sexual situations involving humans than there are rules to describe the behaviour. Human sexuality is chaotic ( in the mathematic sense ... and in general ), and as a result, the data about human sexuality are very general.
Thus, you have a very limited set of descriptions for a wide variety of situations, most of which, like the weather, arise from chaos and can never be described. The search for order amongst the chaos of human sexuality results in very imprecise descriptions and very high error rates.
But the classifications, such as gay, straight, or bisexual, still work very well when applied to large groups. The problem is that you can't say "how gay" someone is with any reliability whatsoever.
I am sometimes amused by the arguments about human sexuality being a 'spectrum' or 'range', when it is in fact, not at all a spectrum. Human sexuality is expressed in the form of events. It is human gender that is a spectrum.
Simple logic works well at the level of an individual scenario, that is, simple logic may accurately describe a single instance of data in a very large set. However, this very simple logic rarely works well when applied to larger sets of data.
The problem with such simple logic is that simple logic reduces human sexuality to a few simple rules that work well for developing broad classifications. Yet there are far more sexual situations involving humans than there are rules to describe the behaviour. Human sexuality is chaotic ( in the mathematic sense ... and in general ), and as a result, the data about human sexuality are very general.
Thus, you have a very limited set of descriptions for a wide variety of situations, most of which, like the weather, arise from chaos and can never be described. The search for order amongst the chaos of human sexuality results in very imprecise descriptions and very high error rates.
But the classifications, such as gay, straight, or bisexual, still work very well when applied to large groups. The problem is that you can't say "how gay" someone is with any reliability whatsoever.
I am sometimes amused by the arguments about human sexuality being a 'spectrum' or 'range', when it is in fact, not at all a spectrum. Human sexuality is expressed in the form of events. It is human gender that is a spectrum.
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Oh, okay. I get it now. Two buds jacking off together to porn is no more sexual than some random guys being naturally and asexually naked in an open shower getting clean. Have I got that straight?
And mastrubation is nothing sexual, right?
p.s. If you're responding to another post that's relevant to your meaning, it would be helpful to quote it.
Not between straight friends no. It's not a sexual situation BETWEEN THEM. I've jacked off to porn with female friends in the room, and I certainly don't see that as making me straighter. My gay card isn't going to be revoked. Lol. It's the same thing for straight dudes.
