Joey from sc

Yikes! Y'all went from fawning over this man to tearing him to shreds real fast.
A lot of people have been rather respectful of their criticisms which have been fair imo.

Maybe he is just new to OF y'all and he doesn't realize sub fees and PTV OF models don't work. Not at these price points anyway. $25 for a solo is crazy lol Maybe if he were doing some extra hardcore stuff he could get away with a high PTV price tag ontop of the sub fee. Sincerely hope he changes things to be more agreeable.
 
Obviously not you… but you're following the thread, so you clearly see how fast this has gone from “OMG welcome back, we've missed you so much, can't wait for your OF” to basically mans OF is trash, because its not giving what people were expecting it to give.

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You're exaggerating. People being disappointed so far isn't "tearing him to shreds". I've seen plenty more vitriolic and toxic critiques of other guys. This is beyond tame. People are allowed to change their minds or express displeasure, right?
 
Obviously not you… but you're following the thread, so you clearly see how fast this has gone from “OMG welcome back, we've missed you so much, can't wait for your OF” to basically mans OF is trash, because its not giving what people were expecting it to give.

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Agreed, the fawning was ridiculous. But have to say I haven't noticed anyone tearing him to spreads thus far. And if they are, It's an OF account at the end of the day, not the end of the world. They need to learn how to give healthy criticism over trashing someone
 
People are allowed to change their minds or express displeasure, right?
And he should be allowed to run his OF however he sees fit… right?

I'm just saying, given that fact that he's actually here interacting with us, we just got the man back, we shouldn't be trying to scare him away. The shift in the way everyone was gassing him up a week ago, to now, how everyone has an opinion on how he should run his business is jarring.
 
And he should be allowed to run his OF however he sees fit… right?

I'm just saying, given that fact that he's actually here interacting with us, we just got the man back, we shouldn't be trying to scare him away. The shift in the way everyone was gassing him up a week ago, to now, how everyone has an opinion on how he should run his business is jarring.
You are right, he is allowed to run his OF the way he wants. However, we are allowed to provide feedback/constructive criticism as well. No one here is attacking him personally just what he’s charging on OF. There’s nothing wrong with wanting him to make his content affordable for everyone to enjoy. If anything, he could use the criticism to improve his OF page and make even more money. If simply receiving criticism scares him off, I don’t know what else to tell ya lol
 
sub fees and PTV OF models don't work.
That's not entirely true.
Halif Faruk claims to be in the top 0.X% and he charges $10/month with PTVs at $40-60. His actually feed is nothing put referrals and short previews.
There are several other guys that are successfully doing the same.
I don't see myself subbing unless joey or the guy pretending to be him uploads man on man or dildo videos- I already have 25 SC Vids of him but would prefer stuff that isn't heavily edited.
 
You are right, he is allowed to run his OF the way he wants. However, we are allowed to provide feedback/constructive criticism as well. No one here is attacking him personally just what he’s charging on OF. There’s nothing wrong with wanting him to make his content affordable for everyone to enjoy. If anything, he could use the criticism to improve his OF page and make even more money. If simply receiving criticism scares him off, I don’t know what else to tell ya lol
You're only allowed to praise and coddle these OF performers apparently. This forum never gives a crap about nuance, reasonable exchange or measured criticism. It's either pure cringey adoration or pure vile hatred for some people. Give me a break smh lol. Things are more complicated than that.
 
Agreed, the fawning was ridiculous. But have to say I haven't noticed anyone tearing him to spreads thus far. And if they are, It's an OF account at the end of the day, not the end of the world. They need to learn how to give healthy criticism over trashing someone
This. This is probably why he thought the pricing woas a good idea. People were probably in his DM's and hyping him up also.
And he should be allowed to run his OF however he sees fit… right?

I'm just saying, given that fact that he's actually here interacting with us, we just got the man back, we shouldn't be trying to scare him away. The shift in the way everyone was gassing him up a week ago, to now, how everyone has an opinion on how he should run his business is jarring.
YOU may have been fawning all over him but, not everyone was throwing themselves at him.
 
this is a forum afterall. to me, i don't see the harm of seeing some cautioning posts from some posters here. ian does have some commitment issues given his history of divorce and trouble with medical school. so i understand why some people here are more cautious

those who are defensive for ian, i get you guys are worried he will leave if he sees the cautioning posts. but if ian was really as true to what he is claiming himself to be, there was no reason for him to runaway, anyway. in fact, if he is willing to show himself to the world like this, he should be able to handle the heat, it is to be expected

personally i am actually more concerned about ian's mental health in general. his histories are giving all the warning signs (not just all about cheating others)
- divorce
- poor commitment
- drop out from school
- history of steroid use
- suspecting financial issue

therefore i won't be surprised if he is actually involved in some sort of addiction and fall into a bad place now desperate for some quick bucks - and hence might do whatever it takes to get it (even if by means of cheating)

i hope i am wrong but given randy's recent departure - this is just something to be aware off
 
personally i am actually more concerned about ian's mental health in general. his histories are giving all the warning signs (not just all about cheating others)
- divorce Meh
- poor commitment same as above
- drop out from school What? So he /was/ in medical school or regular uni? Guys are making bank of OF with zero students loans..
- history of steroid use So did/does every insta-gay, or at least 90% of them
- suspecting financial issue Manageable
Interesting.
I'm on the fence as to which joey build I prefer. He was so cute, but Joshua will always be my number one. That guy. So cute it hurts.
 
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this is a forum afterall. to me, i don't see the harm of seeing some cautioning posts from some posters here. ian does have some commitment issues given his history of divorce and trouble with medical school. so i understand why some people here are more cautious

those who are defensive for ian, i get you guys are worried he will leave if he sees the cautioning posts. but if ian was really as true to what he is claiming himself to be, there was no reason for him to runaway, anyway. in fact, if he is willing to show himself to the world like this, he should be able to handle the heat, it is to be expected

personally i am actually more concerned about ian's mental health in general. his histories are giving all the warning signs (not just all about cheating others)
- divorce
- poor commitment
- drop out from school
- history of steroid use
- suspecting financial issue

therefore i won't be surprised if he is actually involved in some sort of addiction and fall into a bad place now desperate for some quick bucks - and hence might do whatever it takes to get it (even if by means of cheating)

i hope i am wrong but given randy's recent departure - this is just something to be aware off
how do you know that?
 
Wow, I did not expect things to go this way. It would be cool if we could tone it down a little but go off if you must. It is his first video right? Let's not forget that and try to be a bit less intense. Things can change moving forward, especially if he doesn't get the amount of purchases he is wanting. Money speaks louder than any forum post will imo. Either he will change what he charges or he won't. For all we know he is doing this more for funsies than he is to make money. Could explain why he is charging as much as he does. If people end up being assholes about everything he does online he might just stop all together if we kill the fun for him. Once again, this is his first video y'all xD