The perspective from a girls POV is that I need to feel attractive , or wanted and it makes me feel so much more confident. I like to wear cloths that define my figure not just to show off, but the curves make me feel so much better and the looks are a bi-product of the same.
I believe your premise is flawed; i.e., "most men want to see naked women, then i [sic] am sure most women would like to see naked men as well." Anyone at LPSG who reads the posts by women here, or who operates among women in the real world, can observe that women decidedly do not care to see naked men nearly as much as men care to see naked women, particularly if those naked men are strangers. Your flaw is not understanding that men and women are different genders and have different ideas of constitutes the sensual, the provocative, and the sexy when choosing a partner or being influenced to consume advertised products.
agreed that men and women have different standards and liking.. but we should also consider that men and women are everywhere in the world, but in other parts of the world, you won't see women in bikinis (almost nude) and men in board shorts.. i know places where women are in bikinis on beaches and men are in bikinis briefs (like speedos).. i also know other places where men mostly wear bikinis style underwears and are not simply assumed gay or feminine..and there are some other places where both male n female nudity in public is never seen..
very interesting as you mentioned that women like to show off to other women.. i read somewhere that many male actors in softcore are not comfortable in showing full frontal nudity (while most female softcore actors are) because they don't want to show their penis size to other men, so its interesting that women like to show their size to other women, but not men.. i also want to mention that there are some countries (non west) where women would never wear bikini, as they would consider it inappropriate no matter where they are.. and those women would also like to attract men maybe with their long hairs or hairstlye or beautiful dress or other things.. so, what i am getting at is there is a huge difference in male versus female nudity in the west versus other countries.. for example, here is one softcore video from i believe a south asian country, and see at around 2:30 minutes, the male actor is wearing a tiny brief, which you will never see in western softcore, or if at all, that would be in gay softcore. not straight... New Farebi Yaar Part 3 2023 S01 Ep7-8 Ullu Hindi Hot Web Series 1080p Watch Full Video In 1080p
are you trying to say men are less wise than women and they don't go into details like character, values, thoughts, perspective of women, all they care for is body???? that doesn't seem right to me..
i know men and women are different, but i also see a campaign in the west that men and women are same, and have same wants and desires, so to me, if they are same, then they both should be allowed to wear suits and ties, and skirts also.. lol.. and secondly, i have lived in other non-western parts of the world as well so there i know most men don't want to see women naked all the time, that disgusts them, and women too don't want to see naked men.. the only person they want to see naked is their partner and that too in a closed room, not at beach or in public.. what you are saying is correct in terms of western culture, and i accept that, but all i am trying to say respectfully is that it is not the norm everywhere in the world.
i love your answer, fully agreed. many things, just like food, clothing, male vs female nudity are affected a lot by cultural aspects, so i find it hard to accept that all men want to see women naked and all women don't. having lived in different countries with different people from different religions, ethnicities, and cultures, i know people's views are very different. and i am not saying anyone's view is wrong, i am just saying its not right to generalize..
I’m no biologist but I tried explaining these biological imperatives to a rather angry woman friend not too long ago. She angrily told me to shut up and women are sexualised because men hate women. My response: so do women hate men because they sexualise and objectify men? Her response women do not sexualise men. Really? I’m going to print out your perfect response and give it to her.Ask a complex question and I'll give you a complex answer.
Hint: ever wonder why there's a massive beauty industry for women but almost no beauty industry for men?
Hint: ever hear women say there's no such thing as an ugly millionaire?
Answer: males and females of our species do not use the same criteria to objectify each other in the mate selection process.
Females objectify and select males based on their social status. Males objectify and select females based on their looks. This is instinctual behavior in our species. Like all instincts it's driven by an adaptive advantage. That adaptive advantage is reproductive success.
Reproductive success for a human female isn't becoming a mother it's becoming a grandmother. This requires twenty to thirty years of resources. High social status (wealthy) males are best at providing it and are the most attractive to females. The ultimate expression of this instinct is the groupie phenomenon where dozens, hundreds, thousands of women have sex with wealthy superstar males.
Want more proof that reproductive success is becoming grandmothers? Menopause. Until recently we were the only species we knew where females stop ovulating yet live on for years even decades. The adaptive advantage of this is, again, reproductive success. Having raised their own children grandmothers now help raise grandkids maybe even great grandkids. Our remit as a species is to send our DNA into the future. The instinctual drive behind this is massive. We are 8 billion now.
(BTW in the last 10-15 years we've discovered females of several species of toothed whales also menopause and live on for years helping to creche, raise & train the young. Orca females were the first. Beluga, narwal and at least two species of pilot whales have recently been added to the list. No surprise given their highly social nature.)
Now. Males. Reproductive success for a human male is becoming a father--not necessarily a grandfather since males are traditionally more expendable in dangerous occupations including hunting, soldiering, mining, forestry, transportation, construction and other heavy labor.
Human males are instinctually most attracted to female reproductive success. For human females that's a ten year period ending at age 26 and peaking at age 21-22. Data shows this is true for at least six different metrics: lowest miscarriage rate, lowest stillbirth rate, lowest infant mortality rate, lowest birth defect rate, lowest maternal death rate in pregnancy & delivery and, six, lowest rate of other diseases of pregnancy--and all of these without the intervention of modern medicine (obstetrics) which is a recent invention. This data continues to be reaffirmed because millions of women in the world still have little or no access to obstetric medicine during their pregnancies. Sadly.
In short, human males are most attracted to younger women because they are the most successful reproducers. What does the beauty industry do to females of our species? It makes them look young. Smooth skin, high breasts, high butts, flat stomachs, no gray hair? Young women near their reproductive peak have these. Older women do not and may rely increasingly on the beauty/cosmetic industry to maintain a youthful look to remain attractive to men. Women older than 26 can certainly have children but the risk increases with age. Pregnancy at 35+ is considered high risk even with modern medicine.
tl;dr - We are instinctual animals. Our remit is to reproduce. Evolution/adaptation has shaped our behaviors over hundreds of thousands of years. Females of our species objectify males on their social status (wealth) not their looks. Males of our species objectify females on their youthful looks not their social status. Females who have a youthful looks will show it off to attract the best males (of high social status). Males who have high social status will show it off to attract the best females (of youthful looks). Females compete with all other females for the best males. Males compete with all other males for the best females. Even same-sex attracted humans have instinctual attraction to wealth and good looks.
Can you tell I'm a biologist?
I call bull.. I've seen the studies, you're referring specifically to marriage potential, when it comes to casual sex, infidelity and the like(much more accurate indicators of women's sexual preferences then multifaceted reasons behind marriage) you best believe the Jason Momoas and Hemsworths of the world clean the fuck up even while couch surfing.....I'm going to find the stat, but women have been polled in preference juxtaposed to income, and what was found is that when comes to overall sexual market value, the beauty standard of height is so influential that a man that's 6'3" and makes 29K has the same sexual options as a 5'6"-5'7" man making more than $100K.
I'm not sure as to why men would feel uncomfortable doing nude scenes in a softcore film? When you are doing pornography, the expectation is that you are going to be naked. And that you be performing simulated sex scenes. And along the same lines in hardcore pornography, it's full penetrative sex. So in either case men are going to be exhibiting their penises.
Once again, I believe you operate under a flawed premise, which is "a campaign in the west that men and women are same..." There is no such campaign. People act as individuals, and where allowed in the world, will express their individuality in different ways. Some of those ways will be to your liking; some will not. But we are not talking about specific, individual people. We are talking in generalities. And, as a generality, men enjoy seeing random women naked, and women do not enjoy seeing random men naked. No one said men want to see women naked "all the time." No one said women never want to see men naked.
