Nude bonding

Based on my experience I really believe guys who hang out nude with their mates, have heaps of non-sexual physical intimacy along with the occasional jerk off together have stronger bonds, a healthier perspective of sex and are less aggressive.

I agree. I think most guys are touch-starved. It also seems to be a general guy thing to like being naked (as has been noted here on lost many times). Seeing many guys naked helps you realizes that 'normal' is not nearly as narrow as the media tells us. Circle jerks help a guy learn that it's normal to have a dick that just will not stop demanding attention and that giving it that attention in a group setting indicates nothing about sexual sexual orientation. This all would tend to lead to lower stress levels which would tend to lead to lower levels of aggression.

Another not new comment: imagine what the world would be like if every single guy were getting laid on a regular basis....
 
I agree. I think most guys are touch-starved. It also seems to be a general guy thing to like being naked (as has been noted here on lost many times). Seeing many guys naked helps you realizes that 'normal' is not nearly as narrow as the media tells us. Circle jerks help a guy learn that it's normal to have a dick that just will not stop demanding attention and that giving it that attention in a group setting indicates nothing about sexual sexual orientation. This all would tend to lead to lower stress levels which would tend to lead to lower levels of aggression.

Another not new comment: imagine what the world would be like if every single guy were getting laid on a regular basis....

Sexual identity politics and feminism (thanks to the likes of Andrea Dworkin and Catherine McKinnon) since the late 1970's has fucked everything up. It was bad enough with religious conservatives, yet the feminists have taken it to a whole different level. Even when they say men should be more intimate with each other they still set the parameters to what they consider to be healthy and appropriate.

A genuine friendship between men is one where both guys are totally comfortable exploring the full spectrum of physical intimacy from non-sexual to sexual (e.g. jerking off, giving head, MMF etc...) with each other. This has nothing to do with being gay, bi or straight. It's how real men bond.
 

I was just thinking the younger guys here should know this pic isn't that unusual. All these bonding activities continue into retirement. If anything, guys in their 50s and 60s are faster to take their clothes off than when they were younger. We might not be as athletic as we were 30 years ago, but otherwise not much has changed.

Or maybe I've just gotten lucky and have fallen into several unconnected groups of abnormally horny middle aged men?
 
Sexual identity politics and feminism (thanks to the likes of Andrea Dworkin and Catherine McKinnon) since the late 1970's has fucked everything up. It was bad enough with religious conservatives, yet the feminists have taken it to a whole different level. Even when they say men should be more intimate with each other they still set the parameters to what they consider to be healthy and appropriate.

A genuine friendship between men is one where both guys are totally comfortable exploring the full spectrum of physical intimacy from non-sexual to sexual (e.g. jerking off, giving head, MMF etc...) with each other. This has nothing to do with being gay, bi or straight. It's how real men bond.

Spectrum of physical intimacy: Agreed. I just hope one day society acknowledges that most of the components of the spectrum function independently of a guy's romantic interests.
 
Spectrum of physical intimacy: Agreed. I just hope one day society acknowledges that most of the components of the spectrum function independently of a guy's romantic interests.

I really believe heteroromantic concepts of love, particularly the binary of romantic and platonic are what causes a lot of problems.

Why should a life long deep friendship between two men end or be considered lesser when one of the men enters a romantic relationship with a woman? In reality they should be considered equal, yet fulfilling different needs.
 
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That's what you assume based on your own insecurities and biases.

Actually, I have no issue with it and have friends that I enjoy sitting around in underwear or naked with. However, I have other friends that I would not even mention trying that with.
 
Actually, I have no issue with it and have friends that I enjoy sitting around in underwear or naked with. However, I have other friends that I would not even mention trying that with.

That's good to hear and I'm the one who made the assumption then. Yet you'd be surprised at who'd be open to nudity if you asked. I mean very surprised. Some guys are craving it with mates, yet don't know how to ask.
 
That's good to hear and I'm the one who made the assumption then. Yet you'd be surprised at who'd be open to nudity if you asked. I mean very surprised. Some guys are craving it with mates, yet don't know how to ask.

How do I ask? What to say? They live very close to me and I would like for us to bond more as other friends I need to travel.
 
How do I ask? What to say? They live very close to me and I would like for us to bond more as other friends I need to travel.

Just say you've discovered Freikörperkultur (FKK) and they're welcome to join you if they wish. FKK always gets the conversation started.

Also don't push things, just let it evolve naturally. Usually when guys are sunbathing or hanging out with others naked and they're in their undies or bathers they soon take everything off to fit in with the group.
 
I do agree with the feminism aspect trying to limits on male relationships. Some women want to run around with their gf's but feel threatened by their husband having close male relationships.
I don't agree with blaming it on Christianity. Think about it, the YMCA required nude swimming among males of all ages. We grew up with open locker rooms, and gang style showers.
Also, I think lack of time spent with dads/sons in the company of other guys is a factor. Too many people are spending time in front of the TV and electronics. They run like headless chickens trying to do everything that is available but spend so little time on relationships.
Finally, so many in society try to make every single situation sexual. I have a couple of men friends who like to give me bear hugs. One is thankful to have me as his friend. None of it is anyway sexual.
 
I do agree with the feminism aspect trying to limits on male relationships. Some women want to run around with their gf's but feel threatened by their husband having close male relationships.
I don't agree with blaming it on Christianity. Think about it, the YMCA required nude swimming among males of all ages. We grew up with open locker rooms, and gang style showers.
Also, I think lack of time spent with dads/sons in the company of other guys is a factor. Too many people are spending time in front of the TV and electronics. They run like headless chickens trying to do everything that is available but spend so little time on relationships.
Finally, so many in society try to make every single situation sexual. I have a couple of men friends who like to give me bear hugs. One is thankful to have me as his friend. None of it is anyway sexual.

You are so right. My wife is jealous of me having any male friends even though she spends hours on the internet and FB. I do so miss the open showers, not in a sexual way but it made you feel like part of a group and being naked with all the other men is such an equalizer. I think younger men have grown up being taught a high level of modesty and in some homophobic households so they back away from any form of male bonding that involves body contact or nudity because they equate it with sexual behavior. Guys need to learn that sitting around with your buddies in your underwear playing video games or cards and having a beer is perfectly normal for men and not sexual at all.
 
No one, and I mean NO ONE, needs to see me or my two best buds sitting in our underwear with no shirt on. I am getting old, and they are round. I mean round. The youngest one's wife gets to play with another set of boobs, and still be straight. ;)

You can wear a t shirt