Richard Madden (Robb Stark in GOT)

The age difference may not be “bad”, but there’s still a decent difference between 23 and 35. And we don’t really know Richard’s long-term intentions or journey.

The main point I was making is that no one has to be unabashedly “out” with their relationship. But if you have a decent amount of stipulations and limitations with your significant other, it’s best that they have the maturity to understand that and be truly comfortable and satisfied with it.

And it seems like both are fine with it
 
And it seems like both are fine with it

Once again, we don’t really know what someone is and isn’t fine with. While having a 2–3 + year commitment with someone but never being able to post pictures of them your social media, never being able to publicly confirm that you’re in a relationship, never being able to go to be events with them, never being able to show any type of affections publicly- it can get tiresome. And I know that considering I’ve been on both sides. While the industry is still full of a lot of male homophobia and internalized homophobia and queer insecurities. And many young dudes with sex/hunk appeal are told to stay closeted, told not to have unabashed non hetero relationships, told to not attach to “gay” or not to come off “gay”, told to be less fem, etc. if they want their careers to elevate.

We don’t really know the dimensions of Richard or Froy’s sexuality or where they are in the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotional investment, commitment spectrum. We don’t know how serious their relationship is. We don’t know their future intentions. But it’s also silly to automatically assume that someone is perfectly fine and content with something. Many folks, especially when they’re younger, are willing to do whatever to be with who they want to be with. And then they tell a different story when the relationship is over. That’s why the age and power difference does make me a tad bit uncomfortable. But I’m also not assuming the worst. And that’s really the only thing anyone can somewhat criticize. Simply not being unabashedly publicly out is a different thing.
 
Once again, we don’t really know what someone is and isn’t fine with. While having a 2–3 + year commitment with someone but never being able to post pictures of them your social media, never being able to publicly confirm that you’re in a relationship, never being able to go to be events with them, never being able to show any type of affections publicly-it can get tiresome. And I know considering I’ve been on both sides. While the industry is still full of a lot of male homophobia and internalized homophobia and queer insecurities. And many young dudes with sex/hunk appeal are told to stay closeted, told not to have unabashed non hetero relationships, told to not attach to “gay” or not to come off “gay”, told to be less fem, etc. if they want their careers to elevate.

We don’t really know the dimensions of Richard or Froy’s sexuality or where they are in the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotional investment, commitment spectrum. We don’t know how serious their relationship is. We don’t know their future intentions. But it’s also silly to automatically assume that someone is perfectly fine and content with something. Many folks, especially when they’re younger, are willing to do whatever to be with who they want to be with. And then they tell a different story when the relationship is over. That’s why the age and power difference does make me a tad bit uncomfortable. But I’m also not assuming the worst.

You're right WE don't know that. I'm not assuming the reletationship is good or bad. You on the other hand are talking as if you know them personally. Your jumping to conclusions on their reletationship.
 
You're right WE don't know that. I'm not assuming the reletationship is good or bad. You on the other hand are talking as if you know them personally. Your jumping to conclusions on their reletationship.

My point was don’t assume someone is content and happy with something. What someone presents to the public is frequently different than what’s really actually going on with their life and mind and motivations and relationships. While if you’re in your mid thirties and trying to have a commitment with someone in their early twenties, you pretty much always have the power, especially if you have money, are conventionally good-looking, have a higher esteem in your profession and if they’re genuinely in love with you and seriously want to be with you.

I’m not trying to make Richard a “bad guy”. But I wouldn’t go out of my way to cape up for him either. Ultimately, we don’t know the nuances of either dude or their relationship.
 
Honestly, y’all are the ones who keep bringing his relationship up and are very quick to defend him no matter the argument. You don’t really know what’s going on either. Don’t get mad because someone has a more nuanced viewpoint and are hesitant to indulge ass-kissing. I like the dude and think he’s handsome. And it’s cute to see him seemingly have a semi out same-sex relationship. While I don’t think he (or anyone else) has to “come out”. But that’s as far as I’ll go.
 
CUTE!

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I think it's nice Richard and Froy don't technically hide their relationship but don't feel the need to be public about it. They make a cute couple.

And if that’s truly the case, good for them. My only point was that none of us really know the dimensions, struggles, motivations of either guy or the dynamics within their relationship. So, both the people who are quick to judge and vilify and the people who are quick to throw on their capes need to cool it.
 
And if that’s truly the case, good for them. My only point was that none of us really know the dimensions, struggles, motivations of either guy or the dynamics within their relationship. So, both the people who are quick to judge and vilify and the people who are quick to throw on their capes need to cool it.

come off it you started off by vilifying Richard but when no one agreed with your stance you started preaching this
 
Actually, quite a few people agreed if you look at the likes of my initial post. But no one was vilifying anyone. I was responding to the people saying that they need to be unabashedly “out” as well as the people assuming everything is honky-dory and kosher and who feel the need to constantly uplift this couple and defend Richard. There are a lot of people either coming at this couple or trying to uplift them. And I find both approaches to be naive. We don’t know much of anything about either of these people or their relationship. Time to move on.
 
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Actually, quite a few people agreed if you look at the likes of my initial post. But no one was vilifying anyone. I was responding to the people saying that they need to be unabashedly “out” as well as the people assuming everything is honky-dory and kosher and who feel the need to constantly uplift this couple and defend Richard. There are a lot of people either coming at this couple or trying to uplift them. And I find both approaches to be naive. We don’t know much of anything about either of these people or their relationship. Time to move on.

And some people still feel the need to wait, after almost two years! Some people tells you "They didn't say anything or confirmed anything". A lot of other people don't know, I was reading some comments under posts of Eternals, even spoilers, and some people have no idea Richard has a boyfriend.... Some people are sl naive, or just stupid.... they're safe.
 
I can do without the graduate thesis length paragraphs on the sexuality of Richard and his boyfriend, the speculation on whether it's grooming or not, really any of it. I enjoy looking at him, and would gladly denounce him if something comes up that indicates he groomed Froy. But currently, we've got bubkis. So please, shut the fuck up.
 
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