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Odyssey Land said:
Agreed. It’s quite complex and it defies everything we think we know about human sexuality.
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Lol no it doesn’t. Some of these guys are closeted, some are curious, some are openly bisexual. Have none of y’all hooked up with a married man or straight friend before? Lol
 
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weezyF said:
Lol no it doesn’t. Some of these guys are closeted, some are curious, some are openly bisexual. Have none of y’all hooked up with a married man or straight friend before? Lol
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Sometimes being in your own fantasy is better than accepting reality. Truth is most of these guys are straight and have left their porn side in the past. Sone like Curtis snd Owen have been confirmed as liking anal pleasure and others like Harley and Calvin were in it for a paycheck. It’s been stated by even gay men who do porn that porn shoots are not sexy, it’s work. Imagine stopping every 10 minutes so the top can watch straight porn and get hard, or a guy using a huge butt plug and anal ease cream just to take dick up the butt. Notice how in the mid 2000’s most of the models did not suck dick or eat ass?
 
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Berliner1 said:
Sometimes being in your own fantasy is better than accepting reality. Truth is most of these guys are straight and have left their porn side in the past. Sone like Curtis snd Owen have been confirmed as liking anal pleasure and others like Harley and Calvin were in it for a paycheck. It’s been stated by even gay men who do porn that porn shoots are not sexy, it’s work. Imagine stopping every 10 minutes so the top can watch straight porn and get hard, or a guy using a huge butt plug and anal ease cream just to take dick up the butt. Notice how in the mid 2000’s most of the models did not suck dick or eat ass?
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Oh Harley, who openly claimed to have sex with men off camera and went on to do escort work? Or Calvin who at every chance talked about how much he enjoyed it and did over 25 scenes, some with long unbroken shots and internal cumshots? I know it’s a cliche but sexuality is a spectrum and very few people are 100% in either direction. Also I know a ton of gays who use various methods to make bottoming easier and more pleasurable. You can have your fantasy and still live in the real world.
 
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weezyF said:
Oh Harley, who openly claimed to have sex with men off camera and went on to do escort work? Or Calvin who at every chance talked about how much he enjoyed it and did over 25 scenes, some with long unbroken shots and internal cumshots? I know it’s a cliche but sexuality is a spectrum and very few people are 100% in either direction. Also I know a ton of gays who use various methods to make bottoming easier and more pleasurable. You can have your fantasy and still live in the real world.
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Never said that sexuality isn’t fluid. I still stand by what I said which is that it is work. The Calvin thing is false btw, he was accosted by a fan a few years ago and had to break their heart that he is straight and did enjoy his time there but that was it. Same thing with Kurt, Jake, Addison, Harley was an escort for money so that means he didn’t have sex with men on his free time. Also when they say on camera that they enjoy it, seems like they do for the money, but bts is definitely different. I’m not saying all straight men who do porn didn’t enjoy themselves, but to compare a guy who’s getting paid to have sex for hours to a guy who is actively seeking out gay sex in his free time is delusional. I also want make the clear difference between someone who is straight and someone who is gay, it’s not physical attraction, it’s emotional attraction.
 
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Berliner1 said:
Sometimes being in your own fantasy is better than accepting reality. Truth is most of these guys are straight and have left their porn side in the past. Sone like Curtis snd Owen have been confirmed as liking anal pleasure and others like Harley and Calvin were in it for a paycheck. It’s been stated by even gay men who do porn that porn shoots are not sexy, it’s work. Imagine stopping every 10 minutes so the top can watch straight porn and get hard, or a guy using a huge butt plug and anal ease cream just to take dick up the butt. Notice how in the mid 2000’s most of the models did not suck dick or eat ass?
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Way too reductive.

Believing most of these are guys are 100% straight is clearly closer to fantasy (it's literally the selling point/gimmick of the site) so that's one thing.

We have no idea what any of these actually enjoyed or didn't. It's impossible to know that for certain.
Especially in a world where being queer is not accepted in many spaces.

The truth is, it's much more of a case by case thing. Some guys were straight, but not all. Some were closeted, some were bisexual, some were genuinely experimenting. Guys like Curtis prove that the label you decide to call yourself can be quite shallow.
 
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weezyF said:
Lol no it doesn’t. Some of these guys are closeted, some are curious, some are openly bisexual. Have none of y’all hooked up with a married man or straight friend before? Lol
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I was responding to someone else’s comment - and did so with a fairly innocuous reply. Didn’t need you quoting me with a refresher on your agenda views related to human sexuality. There is no shortage of people on this website willing to engage with you on that debate. I’m not one of them!
 
Odyssey Land said:
I was responding to someone else’s comment - and did so with a fairly innocuous reply. Didn’t need you quoting me with a refresher on your agenda views related to human sexuality. There is no shortage of people on this website willing to engage with you on that debate. I’m not one of them!
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LMAO ok dude. Sorry I hurt your feelings by responding to your public post with some nuance and lived experience.
 
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Berliner1 said:
Never said that sexuality isn’t fluid. I still stand by what I said which is that it is work. The Calvin thing is false btw, he was accosted by a fan a few years ago and had to break their heart that he is straight and did enjoy his time there but that was it. Same thing with Kurt, Jake, Addison, Harley was an escort for money so that means he didn’t have sex with men on his free time. Also when they say on camera that they enjoy it, seems like they do for the money, but bts is definitely different. I’m not saying all straight men who do porn didn’t enjoy themselves, but to compare a guy who’s getting paid to have sex for hours to a guy who is actively seeking out gay sex in his free time is delusional. I also want make the clear difference between someone who is straight and someone who is gay, it’s not physical attraction, it’s emotional attraction.
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Ok my man. You’re right. They were all 100% straight and were being forced and coerced against their will do this. SC production team were also Hollywood level editors and cinematographers. Oh and the guys were also world class thesbians with the range and skill of British stage actors. That’s totally more plausible and less delusional smh
 
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