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I think you're comparing apples and oranges there.
Pornhub isn't the same as SC just because they're owned by the same company. And to that extent, the situation with SC is different than what happened to Pornhub.
SC -- like any other gay porn studio -- must keep records of the models ages at the time of filming. Some people are suggesting that some videos were removed because an audit is being done. Even if that's true, there's no reason to think that the videos won't resurface since proving the models ages should be accomplished rather easily.
Pornhub is another matter entirely. Since the content that was removed was amateur stuff where the age of the models couldn't be easily proven (or perhaps proven at all), it was removed.
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OK, not to overshare, but what I do for a living is more or less what is happening to MG at the moment. So I have a bit of general insight here.
I can tell you with near certainty that what happened at SC is, in some way, related to what happened at Pornhub. And yes, it's because they share ownership.
Visa and MC aren't examining on a site by site basis. The individual sites aren't their customer... Mindgeek is their customer. Any business line associated with Mindgeek is going to be looked at with the same microscope as the others.
Pornhub and its issues led Visa and MC to identify a compliance concern. That is, they determined that (according to their merchant standards) Mindgeek took insufficient action to prevent certain prohibited material.
It's likely that the reason the older materials from SC were (possibly temporarily) removed is because they may pre date agreements or contracts that Mindgeek signed with Visa and MC (via a sponsor bank.). Chances are they are fine, but given the severity of the violations identified on Pornhub, they likely were required to pull them until a thorough review is done.
This is all speculation and I have no real insight into this, but call it an informed theory based on the fact that I've seen virtually the same thing occur in my line of work.
I can tell you with near certainty that what happened at SC is, in some way, related to what happened at Pornhub. And yes, it's because they share ownership.
Visa and MC aren't examining on a site by site basis. The individual sites aren't their customer... Mindgeek is their customer. Any business line associated with Mindgeek is going to be looked at with the same microscope as the others.
Pornhub and its issues led Visa and MC to identify a compliance concern. That is, they determined that (according to their merchant standards) Mindgeek took insufficient action to prevent certain prohibited material.
It's likely that the reason the older materials from SC were (possibly temporarily) removed is because they may pre date agreements or contracts that Mindgeek signed with Visa and MC (via a sponsor bank.). Chances are they are fine, but given the severity of the violations identified on Pornhub, they likely were required to pull them until a thorough review is done.
This is all speculation and I have no real insight into this, but call it an informed theory based on the fact that I've seen virtually the same thing occur in my line of work.
Thanks for sharing. This is really insightful.
I really appreciate this insight but it kinda doesn't make total sense. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding how contracts work (hint: I don't know anything).
So you're saying there's some criteria through which videos are kept and not kept? And that's dependent on the contracts? Or maybe the content? Like, what is the reasoning SOME old videos are there and some aren't?
"Please take down all your facial videos until VISA approves them" or whatever sounds weird. Everyone doesn't just sign one consistent contract that's like "you do sex acts"?
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If, as I suspect, the nature of the compliance violation is that they don't have adequate controls in place to screen their content against prohibited acts, then the next step would be to identify all content across all their sites that they can't prove has been screened or otherwise has been omitted from screening efforts because of age of the material, or because it was grandfathered in etc.
Once that content completes a screening and gets the green light, it will likely be released back for the audience. (And said screening will likely need to be completed by a third party, which comes with its own costs, delays etc.)
Since they haven't revoked card acceptance for sites like SC it's probably because they have reasonable confidence that the material is compliant, but they will have to independently confirm that because the violation on Pornhub shows that whatever screening efforts they were doing was insufficient.
FYI, this is also why 5-10 years ago, every site had brothers, twins etc and now they don't. Or they create ridiculous caveats saying they are step siblings or whatever. Visa and MC put a stop to anything that was even close to real incest content. These sites NEED to be able to accept card payments to survive, so they are absolutely at the mercy of the whims of the card brands.
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It'd be hilarious to work for a porn company in like a desk job capacity and deal with shit like this.
I'd do it, too. Anything to stop this MindGeek quality erosion. Give us back the golden age, I say kicking and screaming.
I'd do it, too. Anything to stop this MindGeek quality erosion. Give us back the golden age, I say kicking and screaming.
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Sadly, the people that have to review this content aren't looking at fun porn stuff. They are looking at hours of violence, animal abuse, kiddie porn, snuff films... It's not a job you'd want.
I'm taking about meta data about who sucked off who and who came where, not credit card verification of actually crazy shit.
Well put. Chad White, who had a brief G4P career before doing straight porn posted his Onlyfan monthly statement on his gram and as I can remember was around $3300 dollars. That said, he has almost a 1000 post and over 81,000 likes, which isn't a great sum for that level of proliferation.
All things being relative and a few grand can seem like a lot of money when you're broke, but for most of these guys the porn serves only as a means to up their marque value and increase the asking price for their escort work.
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There are plenty of people who still pay for porn (myself included).
There is plenty of great content still being produced.
We have no idea how much money studios and performers are making.
There is plenty of great content still being produced.
We have no idea how much money studios and performers are making.
I mean I respect that you're a glass half full type, the world needs optimism, and I'm not being sarcastic, truly.
That said, most of that simply isn't true.
The number of paying customers for most porn sites has plummeted over the last decade or so. There have been lots of articles about this.
I'm sure it has plummeted even more due to the lack of new material being produced during the pandemic, as well as the financial strain on consumers who have lost jobs and have limited disposable income. Will it ever recover? Who knows, but certainly not to 2015 or 2010 levels.
The volume of professional porn being produced has plummeted too, and this was true even before the pandemic. Look at how many scenes SC and CF used to post each week at their height, five-ten years ago. And look at how much more skillfully produced they were, with a continuous roster of attractive fresh faces each week.
We absolutely do know what performers are making, many have talked about it, the pay is a fraction of what it was a decade ago. Places like SC can't afford to pay what they did in their heyday.
Add to that the fact that Mindgeek hoovered up so many porn sites, and is now in a financially precarious situation.
The glory days of 2010-2015 for professionally produced, high-quality porn are over.
There are definitely a few OnlyFans performers making a fortune, I've read about them, but the vast majority are still struggling and just using it as supplementary income.
Ugh someone needs to start a new, sustainable brand of high quality porn. And then people need to pay for it.
Edit: Btw do we need to start a counter for how many days this "glitch" of deleted videos has been up?
Edit: Btw do we need to start a counter for how many days this "glitch" of deleted videos has been up?
What are their options?
-Mindgeek to sell their porn subsidiaries to others so that major bank cards will again accept them?
-"Clean" their sites and wait for them to be reviewed and be accepeted again by major bank cards?
-Change Mindgeek to another name?
So many questions right now. But yeah, I'm finally accepting that SC will never be as glorious as before. Their once in a week scene with disappointing roster of men and direction does not attract new subscribers.
-Mindgeek to sell their porn subsidiaries to others so that major bank cards will again accept them?
-"Clean" their sites and wait for them to be reviewed and be accepeted again by major bank cards?
-Change Mindgeek to another name?
So many questions right now. But yeah, I'm finally accepting that SC will never be as glorious as before. Their once in a week scene with disappointing roster of men and direction does not attract new subscribers.
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