Shawn Mendes

the problem is the lack of masculine sex appeal to sell this john mayer persona. doesnt matter if hes gay or straight the reality is one: the girlies arent horny for Shawn so that means no sale. I keep thinking of different possible scenarios for his career and cant really find any

Yes, Shawn can sing in tune...but so can most of the finalists in any singing contest.
He has a big girlie fanbase, so others write songs for him. Thus, as a performer, he gets "token" songwriting credits, lol.

One big difference that I see between Mendes and Mayer is that Mayer has actual talents...John wrote his own songs and is a worldly guitar player. Otoh, Shawn Mendes is just a "Manufactured by Committee" Cosplay with a pretty face.

Case in point, he dropped songs, and *most* of the buzz on this site was about his physical attributes and that he should show his ass, lol
 
I finally listened to the song, and while it's far from horrible, it really does sound like a generic, warmed over Mumford & Sons/Lumineers reject. Noah Kahan's music strikes me in a similar way, but at least he has a distinct voice that fits the style. Shawn's voice still reminds me of a cute boy doing covers on Vine. Not bad, but not earthy enough for the genre he's playing with.

Looks good shirtless though.


Shawn's voice still reminds me of a cute boy doing covers on Vine
Because he's a Manufactured by Committee Cosplay that can sing in tune with a pretty face and a big fanbase (mostly girls and gays)...all his songs were written by others (he got "token" song writing credits because he's the performer)
 
Thus, as a performer, he gets "token" songwriting credits, lol.
Shawn goes in the studio for months and writes and produces songs from scratch with a couple other songwriters. He doesn’t just get a “token” songwriting credit. He’s not Selena Gomez. Don’t make shit up. He’s a singer, songwriter, producer, performer, and multi-instrumentalist. He sold out a headlining gig for Rock in Rio Brazil in 30 minutes this year after a 2 year hiatus
 
Shawn goes in the studio for months and writes and produces songs from scratch with a couple other songwriters. He doesn’t just get a “token” songwriting credit. He’s not Selena Gomez. Don’t make shit up. He’s a singer, songwriter, producer, performer, and multi-instrumentalist. He sold out a headlining gig for Rock in Rio Brazil in 30 minutes this year after a 2 year hiatus

ok, goodboyshawnie, whatever floats your boat...go with that, lol
Shawn Mendes - song writer, multi-instrumentalist, lol
 
Shawn goes in the studio for months and writes and produces songs from scratch with a couple other songwriters. He doesn’t just get a “token” songwriting credit. He’s not Selena Gomez. Don’t make shit up. He’s a singer, songwriter, producer, performer, and multi-instrumentalist. He sold out a headlining gig for Rock in Rio Brazil in 30 minutes this year after a 2 year hiatus
OK "Goodboyshawnie", you've totally given his case file an unbiased look
 
ok, goodboyshawnie, whatever floats your boat...go with that, lol
Shawn Mendes - song writer, multi-instrumentalist, lol
what’s funny about that..? y’all really are showing how bitter y’all could possibly get. shawn DOES write music and produce as well, he isn’t some manufactured act that comes to the studio after work is already done.
 
what’s funny about that..? y’all really are showing how bitter y’all could possibly get. shawn DOES write music and produce as well, he isn’t some manufactured act that comes to the studio after work is already done.

ok, alexandersworld, whatever floats your boat...go with that, lol
Shawn Mendes - song writer, producer, lol
 
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Ok, kokopelli96, you really have some deep hatred and dislike to Shawn Mendes as an artist and performer, we get it, lol
omg, you're so wrong, lol.

I'm here to point out the production reality of the Mendes Experience, the bts of his Cosplay.

I don't have a deep hatred for Shawn...I'm actually a fan of Mr. Mendes...I'm a fan of mediocrity.
 
You guys have to realize Shawn doesn’t want to be a big pop star in music. I don’t think he wants the crazy level of fame big stars like Harry, Bey, Taylor have. It gave him anxiety and it is why he quit music for years. He doesnt want to be in the mindset of worrying to always make hit songs and albums. I think now he wants to make music that inspires him. I don’t think he is interested in making commercial music anymore and he is fine with it. I think he has enough money to not care about the charts anymore.

The Shawn Mendes era we knew is gone. He gave that up at the height of his fame. Literally quit. He doesn’t want to get it back. I think he wants a more low key fame where he can move about without security and live a normal life.


I dont think his label wants to invest money in pushing him. He will be very hard to insure if he tours again. Not everyone will buy his music and I think he has made peace with that. I like the new song. Its nice to listen to it at a park or by a river. It’s chill.
 
I don’t think he wants the crazy level of fame big stars like Harry, Bey, Taylor have. It gave him anxiety and it is why he quit music for years.
"I don't want to be famous anymore, it gives me anxiety. :sob: I am a mediocre musician and a privileged white man, oh how much I suffer."
 
If he really doesn't want to be famous anymore and just dedicate himself to music, he should retire, he can work as a writer or producer, but he is honestly just a whiney white man hippie wannabe.
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"I don't want to be famous anymore, it gives me anxiety. :sob: I am a mediocre musician and a privileged white man, oh how much I suffer."

Mediocrity on everything except for looks -> realizing one's own mediocrity -> leading to personal distress -> causing anxiety = Shawn Mendes

In the early days of social media (only YouTube back then, lol)...a lot of kids got very famous (and rich) for looks and/or personalities only...with very little talents (Tyler Oakley, O2L, Zoella, gamers, etc.). Shawn caught the first (and only) wave of that "star making" opportunity.

If Shawn was born 5 years later, none of the *cringing* covers and videos that he posted on Youtube would have caused any ripple, buzz or garnered much attention. He was a product of great *timing*...the perfect storm.
 
Jeez, what did he ever do to some of you? This is like personal hatred and it seems entirely unwarranted and based on nothing.
There's no hate...certainly not from me, lol.

I'm just subjectively pointing out Shawn's lack of talent. Ofc, you're free to have different opinions.

This is a chatting forum where people can have discussions and express different POV's...is it not?
 
There's no hate...certainly not from me, lol.

I'm just subjectively pointing out Shawn's lack of talent. Ofc, you're free to have different opinions.

This is a chatting forum where people can have discussions and express different POV's...is it not?

Sure, Jan.

90% of this last page of discussion has just been people going absolutely in on his entire personality for literally no reason. You're free to do that of course but don't dress it up as something it's not. You're all just being bitchy for the sake of being bitchy. At least own it.