Should I change my appearance? I'm tired of the double standards & discrimination online....

I'm undesirable.
I was a late bloomer - and women always were angry when I asked them out back then.
I'm 25 now, and people think I'm younger, because of my "baby face".

On dating apps, I get rejected for various reasons - my cock is too small (I'm 4" soft and 7" hard), "You're not my type" (I get that one all the time), because I'm black, "I prefer taller guys" (I get that all the time too, since I'm 5'2"), etc.

And the guys who are interested either date me for 6 months, abuse me for 6 years (my longest relationships were 2 abusive exes for 6 years & 3 years) or their fuckboys who use me to make them finish or they end up being closeted and always go back to women.

I call this my personal life's "double standard", when guys who are attracted to me end up exploiting and abusing me, while the guys who are healthy partners end up ignoring me and friend zoning me, and getting furious when I tell them I'm in love with them.
So I have dated more than 100 people, and a majority of my relationships (except the 3 year one I mentioned earlier) have been long distance.

I would much rather be a bicurious, heteroflexible or bi guy's arm candy, than to fall for legit gay and bi fuckboys who use me again.
I'm also polyamorous (I came out as poly in November 2018, and I dumped my ex because he took me being poly as me cheating on him, which led to him confessing to cheating on me in 2019 - 3 years after he posted revenge p*rn of me online in 2016 - so I dumped him on 3 January 2020).

After him, I had several flings that never worked out, and since my breakup in 2020, I've had 2 relationships (7 months and 24 hours), but they never worked out either.
The 7 month one was with an Argentine boy I thought was the love of my life, until he too, ghosted me (we met on OnlyFans and fell for each other; we dated from 7 October '21 until he ghosted me twice and I dumped him without explanation on 7 May 2022, which happened to be my mom's birthday).

The 24 hour ex I dated from 31 May 2022 to June 1st.
I found out he was exploiting me for money, because he was impoverished and needed to pay his bills.
I paid him $400 ($100 per month for 4 months) and I noticed when I wasn't paying him money, he'd be rude and treat me horribly (we knew each other through Facebook).

Keep in mind, after my 2020 breakup, I had trust issues because my abusive exes at that time were white guys; and I spent a large part of my childhood traveling between the South and the North (I'm from the Northeast, but I lived in Florida and Georgia for several summers as a kid), and I hate the South; it's not my ideal environment.
And that abortion bill being ate up by Southerners isn't changing my mind about the South being a horrible place.

My recent 24 hour ex (the moocher) was from West Virginia, and I don't want to make assumptions like I used to in the past, so I'll just say I seem to attract narcissistic men who betray me by cheating, gossipping about our intimate details, etc., and then when I leave them, they call me ugly (my literal ex-fiancé said to me, "Bye, ugly face!" as he drove home from my house).

I wonder if the discrimination from exes, friends who friend zoned me, dating apps, etc., has led to me thinking I need to change how I look so that my type of man will fall for me.
I'm fine being the undesirable nerdy type, while my boyfriend (whoever he shall be) is the sexy jock/model/ladykiller who nobody knows is gay/bicurious/FWB.

When I had trust issues about why men found me ugly, I always went for Grindr hookups because I settled for sex with not so kind men and them demanding I get them off, instead of staying at home and jacking off to my gay porn subscriptions on SayUncle + Family Dick + Young Perps + Club Amateur USA + Black Godz + XVideos Red like I always do (and then go on Grindr when I tire of masturbating alone and try to find love on Grindr - big mistake).

So instead of having my trust issues, I want to know:
Am I too undesirable to find a "hot" boyfriend?
I've dated sex workers, had affairs with 2 DL celebrities, my 2020 ex was a criminal + Latin gang member who has been harassing me with phone calls to my landline (which makes my family curse me out because his calls disrupt their day; and my family is abusive and homophobic, which is why I sneak around to masturbate when they're either not home, sleeping or distracted and I have to plan out times to masturbate before they walk out their rooms or before they pull up at our driveway and walk into the house and I get caught again).

Should I change how I look?
Am I undesirable?
Or what can I do to get the "hot" guy who wants me to be his?
Remember - I'm fine being the undesirable guy who dates the hot fuckboy or the hot guy who everyone wants; it's a 2 halves of a whole kind of dynamic I'm into.

I attached 2 photos of me, for you guys to see what I should change.
I'm open to any suggestions.

Height - 5'2"
Weight - 140 lbs.
Body Type - Slim/Average?

Do you need to change the way you look? No.

Do you need to change how you measure your worth? YES.

I couldn't help but notice that you (very randomly) inserted what you consider to be interesting tidbits - in no way related to rejection - into your description of your perceived difficulties. I used to do crap like that, when I lacked self confidence with regards to the qualities I possess that actually matter. The fact that you mention dating app success or fuckboy relationship success as if they are sincere indicators of your success in life is very telling. You rattle on about relationships as if they define your legacy. But isn't living with your mother as an adult more of a failure?

I also notice there are posts below in which you introduce yourself as a "black ___," which is an attributive adjective literally rooted in slave markets that now remains normalized even beyond its sole utility in the social sciences. This confounds me when I see it used by someone who describes the south as a "toxic" place where he doesn't fit in. Your self-perception appears to be the toxic element, if any such element exists. (on a side note: words associated with blame are useless in resolving literally any personal issue).
 
I read your first post and I'm giving a knee-jerk reaction:
- Your looks are fine. Almost all guys look a bit better with a bit more muscle and an updated haircut but seriously... that's minor shit. You look fine. Actually, you're pretty fucking handsome, IMO.
- I can't see improving the situation until you're living independently on your own two feet.
- I agree that you probably would benefit from therapy but I can't see that helping until you're FIRST out of the toxic environment you're in.
- Move to a big city like NYC where there're plenty of non-sexual opportunities to meet men.

You seem to be surrounded toxic people. Get away! How can you even figure out what you need to work on with yourself if you have toxic people preventing you from thinking clearly? It's ridiculous. I would cut yourself some slack and skip the self-assessment for now. Save it until you're in a safe, stable environment.
 
I read your first post and I'm giving a knee-jerk reaction:
- Your looks are fine. Almost all guys look a bit better with a bit more muscle and an updated haircut but seriously... that's minor shit. You look fine. Actually, you're pretty fucking handsome, IMO.
- I can't see improving the situation until you're living independently on your own two feet.
- I agree that you probably would benefit from therapy but I can't see that helping until you're FIRST out of the toxic environment you're in.
- Move to a big city like NYC where there're plenty of non-sexual opportunities to meet men.

You seem to be surrounded toxic people. Get away! How can you even figure out what you need to work on with yourself if you have toxic people preventing you from thinking clearly? It's ridiculous. I would cut yourself some slack and skip the self-assessment for now. Save it until you're in a safe, stable environment.
You're definitely correct about that - you made amazing points.
I said this in my other post, so I'll summarize - I'm thinking of moving to Los Angeles; Jamestown, NY; or London.
 
I'm undesirable.
I was a late bloomer - and women always were angry when I asked them out back then.
I'm 25 now, and people think I'm younger, because of my "baby face".

On dating apps, I get rejected for various reasons - my cock is too small (I'm 4" soft and 7" hard), "You're not my type" (I get that one all the time), because I'm black, "I prefer taller guys" (I get that all the time too, since I'm 5'2"), etc.

And the guys who are interested either date me for 6 months, abuse me for 6 years (my longest relationships were 2 abusive exes for 6 years & 3 years) or their fuckboys who use me to make them finish or they end up being closeted and always go back to women.

I call this my personal life's "double standard", when guys who are attracted to me end up exploiting and abusing me, while the guys who are healthy partners end up ignoring me and friend zoning me, and getting furious when I tell them I'm in love with them.
So I have dated more than 100 people, and a majority of my relationships (except the 3 year one I mentioned earlier) have been long distance.

I would much rather be a bicurious, heteroflexible or bi guy's arm candy, than to fall for legit gay and bi fuckboys who use me again.
I'm also polyamorous (I came out as poly in November 2018, and I dumped my ex because he took me being poly as me cheating on him, which led to him confessing to cheating on me in 2019 - 3 years after he posted revenge p*rn of me online in 2016 - so I dumped him on 3 January 2020).

After him, I had several flings that never worked out, and since my breakup in 2020, I've had 2 relationships (7 months and 24 hours), but they never worked out either.
The 7 month one was with an Argentine boy I thought was the love of my life, until he too, ghosted me (we met on OnlyFans and fell for each other; we dated from 7 October '21 until he ghosted me twice and I dumped him without explanation on 7 May 2022, which happened to be my mom's birthday).

The 24 hour ex I dated from 31 May 2022 to June 1st.
I found out he was exploiting me for money, because he was impoverished and needed to pay his bills.
I paid him $400 ($100 per month for 4 months) and I noticed when I wasn't paying him money, he'd be rude and treat me horribly (we knew each other through Facebook).

Keep in mind, after my 2020 breakup, I had trust issues because my abusive exes at that time were white guys; and I spent a large part of my childhood traveling between the South and the North (I'm from the Northeast, but I lived in Florida and Georgia for several summers as a kid), and I hate the South; it's not my ideal environment.
And that abortion bill being ate up by Southerners isn't changing my mind about the South being a horrible place.

My recent 24 hour ex (the moocher) was from West Virginia, and I don't want to make assumptions like I used to in the past, so I'll just say I seem to attract narcissistic men who betray me by cheating, gossipping about our intimate details, etc., and then when I leave them, they call me ugly (my literal ex-fiancé said to me, "Bye, ugly face!" as he drove home from my house).

I wonder if the discrimination from exes, friends who friend zoned me, dating apps, etc., has led to me thinking I need to change how I look so that my type of man will fall for me.
I'm fine being the undesirable nerdy type, while my boyfriend (whoever he shall be) is the sexy jock/model/ladykiller who nobody knows is gay/bicurious/FWB.

When I had trust issues about why men found me ugly, I always went for Grindr hookups because I settled for sex with not so kind men and them demanding I get them off, instead of staying at home and jacking off to my gay porn subscriptions on SayUncle + Family Dick + Young Perps + Club Amateur USA + Black Godz + XVideos Red like I always do (and then go on Grindr when I tire of masturbating alone and try to find love on Grindr - big mistake).

So instead of having my trust issues, I want to know:
Am I too undesirable to find a "hot" boyfriend?
I've dated sex workers, had affairs with 2 DL celebrities, my 2020 ex was a criminal + Latin gang member who has been harassing me with phone calls to my landline (which makes my family curse me out because his calls disrupt their day; and my family is abusive and homophobic, which is why I sneak around to masturbate when they're either not home, sleeping or distracted and I have to plan out times to masturbate before they walk out their rooms or before they pull up at our driveway and walk into the house and I get caught again).

Should I change how I look?
Am I undesirable?
Or what can I do to get the "hot" guy who wants me to be his?
Remember - I'm fine being the undesirable guy who dates the hot fuckboy or the hot guy who everyone wants; it's a 2 halves of a whole kind of dynamic I'm into.

I attached 2 photos of me, for you guys to see what I should change.
I'm open to any suggestions.

Height - 5'2"
Weight - 140 lbs.
Body Type - Slim/Average?
Dude, you sound and look great. Don't get undeterred because people are assholes. I'm sorry you gotta deal with that crap. You are fine the way you are. You gotta love yourself first
 
Muscle is the only thing that gets men laid.
Seriously? like 99% of the guys with girls I had seen they look pretty average to me and some of them even have beer bellies. Don't get me wrong, it will be great to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Lou Ferrigno in their golden years but I personally don't think is prerequisite to attract a person.



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As some others have said, it seems like therapy would be the best option. Exploring why these people have come into your life as well as your own trauma. It seems like in these situations you've chosen people that are wrong for you, and maybe there's a deeper reason for that?
 
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I'm undesirable.
I was a late bloomer - and women always were angry when I asked them out back then.
I'm 25 now, and people think I'm younger, because of my "baby face".

On dating apps, I get rejected for various reasons - my cock is too small (I'm 4" soft and 7" hard), "You're not my type" (I get that one all the time), because I'm black, "I prefer taller guys" (I get that all the time too, since I'm 5'2"), etc.

And the guys who are interested either date me for 6 months, abuse me for 6 years (my longest relationships were 2 abusive exes for 6 years & 3 years) or their fuckboys who use me to make them finish or they end up being closeted and always go back to women.

I call this my personal life's "double standard", when guys who are attracted to me end up exploiting and abusing me, while the guys who are healthy partners end up ignoring me and friend zoning me, and getting furious when I tell them I'm in love with them.
So I have dated more than 100 people, and a majority of my relationships (except the 3 year one I mentioned earlier) have been long distance.

I would much rather be a bicurious, heteroflexible or bi guy's arm candy, than to fall for legit gay and bi fuckboys who use me again.
I'm also polyamorous (I came out as poly in November 2018, and I dumped my ex because he took me being poly as me cheating on him, which led to him confessing to cheating on me in 2019 - 3 years after he posted revenge p*rn of me online in 2016 - so I dumped him on 3 January 2020).

After him, I had several flings that never worked out, and since my breakup in 2020, I've had 2 relationships (7 months and 24 hours), but they never worked out either.
The 7 month one was with an Argentine boy I thought was the love of my life, until he too, ghosted me (we met on OnlyFans and fell for each other; we dated from 7 October '21 until he ghosted me twice and I dumped him without explanation on 7 May 2022, which happened to be my mom's birthday).

The 24 hour ex I dated from 31 May 2022 to June 1st.
I found out he was exploiting me for money, because he was impoverished and needed to pay his bills.
I paid him $400 ($100 per month for 4 months) and I noticed when I wasn't paying him money, he'd be rude and treat me horribly (we knew each other through Facebook).

Keep in mind, after my 2020 breakup, I had trust issues because my abusive exes at that time were white guys; and I spent a large part of my childhood traveling between the South and the North (I'm from the Northeast, but I lived in Florida and Georgia for several summers as a kid), and I hate the South; it's not my ideal environment.
And that abortion bill being ate up by Southerners isn't changing my mind about the South being a horrible place.

My recent 24 hour ex (the moocher) was from West Virginia, and I don't want to make assumptions like I used to in the past, so I'll just say I seem to attract narcissistic men who betray me by cheating, gossipping about our intimate details, etc., and then when I leave them, they call me ugly (my literal ex-fiancé said to me, "Bye, ugly face!" as he drove home from my house).

I wonder if the discrimination from exes, friends who friend zoned me, dating apps, etc., has led to me thinking I need to change how I look so that my type of man will fall for me.
I'm fine being the undesirable nerdy type, while my boyfriend (whoever he shall be) is the sexy jock/model/ladykiller who nobody knows is gay/bicurious/FWB.

When I had trust issues about why men found me ugly, I always went for Grindr hookups because I settled for sex with not so kind men and them demanding I get them off, instead of staying at home and jacking off to my gay porn subscriptions on SayUncle + Family Dick + Young Perps + Club Amateur USA + Black Godz + XVideos Red like I always do (and then go on Grindr when I tire of masturbating alone and try to find love on Grindr - big mistake).

So instead of having my trust issues, I want to know:
Am I too undesirable to find a "hot" boyfriend?
I've dated sex workers, had affairs with 2 DL celebrities, my 2020 ex was a criminal + Latin gang member who has been harassing me with phone calls to my landline (which makes my family curse me out because his calls disrupt their day; and my family is abusive and homophobic, which is why I sneak around to masturbate when they're either not home, sleeping or distracted and I have to plan out times to masturbate before they walk out their rooms or before they pull up at our driveway and walk into the house and I get caught again).

Should I change how I look?
Am I undesirable?
Or what can I do to get the "hot" guy who wants me to be his?
Remember - I'm fine being the undesirable guy who dates the hot fuckboy or the hot guy who everyone wants; it's a 2 halves of a whole kind of dynamic I'm into.

I attached 2 photos of me, for you guys to see what I should change.
I'm open to any suggestions.

Height - 5'2"
Weight - 140 lbs.
Body Type - Slim/Average?
You look fine my man. Don't change anything about your natural, God-given looks. If you want, try a new hairstyle, or get some new clothes. Not everyone likes short men, or men not of their own race. That's not wrong, but they don't need to be idiots about it and say hurtful things. I lived through that shit myself; the internet is absolutely full of assholes. I waited for a long time, and finally found a wonderful, loving man, with whom I bought a place and share a wonderful life. I'm quite in love, and glad I waited out the time that I did. It all takes time, and believe me, I gave up many times over. Until I found him. Now life is good. It will be good for you too. Be judicious in your choice of company, don't give anything away too easily, and ignore the detractors. Good luck.
 
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I'm undesirable.
I was a late bloomer - and women always were angry when I asked them out back then.
I'm 25 now, and people think I'm younger, because of my "baby face".

On dating apps, I get rejected for various reasons - my cock is too small (I'm 4" soft and 7" hard), "You're not my type" (I get that one all the time), because I'm black, "I prefer taller guys" (I get that all the time too, since I'm 5'2"), etc.

And the guys who are interested either date me for 6 months, abuse me for 6 years (my longest relationships were 2 abusive exes for 6 years & 3 years) or their fuckboys who use me to make them finish or they end up being closeted and always go back to women.

I call this my personal life's "double standard", when guys who are attracted to me end up exploiting and abusing me, while the guys who are healthy partners end up ignoring me and friend zoning me, and getting furious when I tell them I'm in love with them.
So I have dated more than 100 people, and a majority of my relationships (except the 3 year one I mentioned earlier) have been long distance.

I would much rather be a bicurious, heteroflexible or bi guy's arm candy, than to fall for legit gay and bi fuckboys who use me again.
I'm also polyamorous (I came out as poly in November 2018, and I dumped my ex because he took me being poly as me cheating on him, which led to him confessing to cheating on me in 2019 - 3 years after he posted revenge p*rn of me online in 2016 - so I dumped him on 3 January 2020).

After him, I had several flings that never worked out, and since my breakup in 2020, I've had 2 relationships (7 months and 24 hours), but they never worked out either.
The 7 month one was with an Argentine boy I thought was the love of my life, until he too, ghosted me (we met on OnlyFans and fell for each other; we dated from 7 October '21 until he ghosted me twice and I dumped him without explanation on 7 May 2022, which happened to be my mom's birthday).

The 24 hour ex I dated from 31 May 2022 to June 1st.
I found out he was exploiting me for money, because he was impoverished and needed to pay his bills.
I paid him $400 ($100 per month for 4 months) and I noticed when I wasn't paying him money, he'd be rude and treat me horribly (we knew each other through Facebook).

Keep in mind, after my 2020 breakup, I had trust issues because my abusive exes at that time were white guys; and I spent a large part of my childhood traveling between the South and the North (I'm from the Northeast, but I lived in Florida and Georgia for several summers as a kid), and I hate the South; it's not my ideal environment.
And that abortion bill being ate up by Southerners isn't changing my mind about the South being a horrible place.

My recent 24 hour ex (the moocher) was from West Virginia, and I don't want to make assumptions like I used to in the past, so I'll just say I seem to attract narcissistic men who betray me by cheating, gossipping about our intimate details, etc., and then when I leave them, they call me ugly (my literal ex-fiancé said to me, "Bye, ugly face!" as he drove home from my house).

I wonder if the discrimination from exes, friends who friend zoned me, dating apps, etc., has led to me thinking I need to change how I look so that my type of man will fall for me.
I'm fine being the undesirable nerdy type, while my boyfriend (whoever he shall be) is the sexy jock/model/ladykiller who nobody knows is gay/bicurious/FWB.

When I had trust issues about why men found me ugly, I always went for Grindr hookups because I settled for sex with not so kind men and them demanding I get them off, instead of staying at home and jacking off to my gay porn subscriptions on SayUncle + Family Dick + Young Perps + Club Amateur USA + Black Godz + XVideos Red like I always do (and then go on Grindr when I tire of masturbating alone and try to find love on Grindr - big mistake).

So instead of having my trust issues, I want to know:
Am I too undesirable to find a "hot" boyfriend?
I've dated sex workers, had affairs with 2 DL celebrities, my 2020 ex was a criminal + Latin gang member who has been harassing me with phone calls to my landline (which makes my family curse me out because his calls disrupt their day; and my family is abusive and homophobic, which is why I sneak around to masturbate when they're either not home, sleeping or distracted and I have to plan out times to masturbate before they walk out their rooms or before they pull up at our driveway and walk into the house and I get caught again).

Should I change how I look?
Am I undesirable?
Or what can I do to get the "hot" guy who wants me to be his?
Remember - I'm fine being the undesirable guy who dates the hot fuckboy or the hot guy who everyone wants; it's a 2 halves of a whole kind of dynamic I'm into.

I attached 2 photos of me, for you guys to see what I should change.
I'm open to any suggestions.

Height - 5'2"
Weight - 140 lbs.
Body Type - Slim/Average?
Ok first off you look fine but, if feel you want to look better than try different clothes or change up your hairstyle. But I don't think that's the problem, the problem is the people you allow in your life. It seems like you want a relationship so bad that you are ignoring the signs that they are a bad person. I understand you want an relationship but you can't and shouldn't settle for less. If you want an healthy relationship, the person should be your friend before they are your partner. That doesn't mean every friend you have is going to be a potential partner, it just means you need to really know them before y'all become romantic. And most importantly, put yourself first. Your self worth should never be discouraged by no one period. But hopefully that helped.
 
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I'm undesirable.
I was a late bloomer - and women always were angry when I asked them out back then.
I'm 25 now, and people think I'm younger, because of my "baby face".

On dating apps, I get rejected for various reasons - my cock is too small (I'm 4" soft and 7" hard), "You're not my type" (I get that one all the time), because I'm black, "I prefer taller guys" (I get that all the time too, since I'm 5'2"), etc.

And the guys who are interested either date me for 6 months, abuse me for 6 years (my longest relationships were 2 abusive exes for 6 years & 3 years) or their fuckboys who use me to make them finish or they end up being closeted and always go back to women.

I call this my personal life's "double standard", when guys who are attracted to me end up exploiting and abusing me, while the guys who are healthy partners end up ignoring me and friend zoning me, and getting furious when I tell them I'm in love with them.
So I have dated more than 100 people, and a majority of my relationships (except the 3 year one I mentioned earlier) have been long distance.

I would much rather be a bicurious, heteroflexible or bi guy's arm candy, than to fall for legit gay and bi fuckboys who use me again.
I'm also polyamorous (I came out as poly in November 2018, and I dumped my ex because he took me being poly as me cheating on him, which led to him confessing to cheating on me in 2019 - 3 years after he posted revenge p*rn of me online in 2016 - so I dumped him on 3 January 2020).

After him, I had several flings that never worked out, and since my breakup in 2020, I've had 2 relationships (7 months and 24 hours), but they never worked out either.
The 7 month one was with an Argentine boy I thought was the love of my life, until he too, ghosted me (we met on OnlyFans and fell for each other; we dated from 7 October '21 until he ghosted me twice and I dumped him without explanation on 7 May 2022, which happened to be my mom's birthday).

The 24 hour ex I dated from 31 May 2022 to June 1st.
I found out he was exploiting me for money, because he was impoverished and needed to pay his bills.
I paid him $400 ($100 per month for 4 months) and I noticed when I wasn't paying him money, he'd be rude and treat me horribly (we knew each other through Facebook).

Keep in mind, after my 2020 breakup, I had trust issues because my abusive exes at that time were white guys; and I spent a large part of my childhood traveling between the South and the North (I'm from the Northeast, but I lived in Florida and Georgia for several summers as a kid), and I hate the South; it's not my ideal environment.
And that abortion bill being ate up by Southerners isn't changing my mind about the South being a horrible place.

My recent 24 hour ex (the moocher) was from West Virginia, and I don't want to make assumptions like I used to in the past, so I'll just say I seem to attract narcissistic men who betray me by cheating, gossipping about our intimate details, etc., and then when I leave them, they call me ugly (my literal ex-fiancé said to me, "Bye, ugly face!" as he drove home from my house).

I wonder if the discrimination from exes, friends who friend zoned me, dating apps, etc., has led to me thinking I need to change how I look so that my type of man will fall for me.
I'm fine being the undesirable nerdy type, while my boyfriend (whoever he shall be) is the sexy jock/model/ladykiller who nobody knows is gay/bicurious/FWB.

When I had trust issues about why men found me ugly, I always went for Grindr hookups because I settled for sex with not so kind men and them demanding I get them off, instead of staying at home and jacking off to my gay porn subscriptions on SayUncle + Family Dick + Young Perps + Club Amateur USA + Black Godz + XVideos Red like I always do (and then go on Grindr when I tire of masturbating alone and try to find love on Grindr - big mistake).

So instead of having my trust issues, I want to know:
Am I too undesirable to find a "hot" boyfriend?
I've dated sex workers, had affairs with 2 DL celebrities, my 2020 ex was a criminal + Latin gang member who has been harassing me with phone calls to my landline (which makes my family curse me out because his calls disrupt their day; and my family is abusive and homophobic, which is why I sneak around to masturbate when they're either not home, sleeping or distracted and I have to plan out times to masturbate before they walk out their rooms or before they pull up at our driveway and walk into the house and I get caught again).

Should I change how I look?
Am I undesirable?
Or what can I do to get the "hot" guy who wants me to be his?
Remember - I'm fine being the undesirable guy who dates the hot fuckboy or the hot guy who everyone wants; it's a 2 halves of a whole kind of dynamic I'm into.

I attached 2 photos of me, for you guys to see what I should change.
I'm open to any suggestions.

Height - 5'2"
Weight - 140 lbs.
Body Type - Slim/Average?
I don't think you need to change for the world! You're attractive in both personality traits (your openness) and physically (your face and package). I think most girls and lads are missing out. I think your best bet would be to try more inclusive dating apps, such as hinge/bumble or go out into the local scene. I feel for you in the sense that there is a lot of racial stereotyping in the het and LGBT community. Especially regarding appearance. But I think you can overcome it by staying the way you are.
 
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First, modern (shallow) gay dating culture seems to put an odd overemphasis on different body parts or identities when it comes to sex. People seem to reduce other gay men to a dick measurements, race, or height (these are good porn search terms, but not partner search terms). None of this is important.

Second, as for the height and cock size thing, I’m sure you understand why people prefer something different than you. Regardless, short men and men with small dicks get laid all the time so it’s not the real issue here. As for the race thing, someone saying you’re “not their type” doesn’t mean they’re not attracted BECAUSE you’re black. As an aside, I’m black and thought this was the case one time years ago when I asked a guy out in college. I looked him up later and found he was dating (a short) black guy, so it turns out he just wasn’t attracted to ME haha. If they say they’re not attracted to you BECAUSE you’re black (the only way you could know this), then they won't be a good partner OBVIOUSLY. All people have sexual preferences, and we can get into odd nonconsensual territory when we chastise people because their body doesn’t respond to certain people. Obviously, its unnecessary to talk about your “preferences” ad nauseam, but it’s not racist. Don’t use the specter of racism to excuse your need to be a fit successful person to be successful at dating. Date more men of color or white guys that are attracted to you (maybe just fewer white guys though because by your own admission most of your abusive exes were white).

Third, the average man has about 6 sex partners in life (NSFG - Listing N - Key Statistics from the National Survey of Family Growth) gay men have on average 15 sexual partners in life (50% of gay men have 0 or 1 sex partner per year) (Gay Promiscuity Statistics). This is a good measure of your success or lack thereof in dating. The fact that you’ve dated 100 people, and had sex with even a fraction of them sounds exhausting and WILD! Seems like you watch a bit of porn. Keep in mind, porn stars have WAYYY more sex than the average person BECAUSE they get PAID to do it. It looks super fun, but it’s totally curated (real sex smells, is emotionally fraught, and takes a toll on your body) and not something emulate.

Fourth, you don’t seem to take personal responsibility for ANYTHING. You say the guys who are interested in you “abuse” you for years, harass you, exploit you for money, “ghost” you, are “moochers” and “fuckboys,” gossip about you, cheat on you, are pathological liars” and “addicts,” and are criminals and gang members. You claim the healthy guys you like “ignor[e] [you] and friend zone [you]” (friendzone is an unnecessarily dramatic term straight guys invented to express irritation that someone just isn’t interested I think). It strains logic to believe YOU have nothing to do with this. No way is every guy you meet an asshole for no reason and you’re just a victim. Despite your insane dating life you still say “when I spot inauthentic men, I run for the hills and cut off all communication.” That’s just not true if we believe what you’re writing so either you’re lying to us, or worse, yourself. Think about what YOU could have done differently in your relationships rather than call your exes names.

Fifth, I won't go into clichés (like sometimes when you focus on something too much you push it away) but I’ll say you seem FIXATED on sex and dating. I would recommend focusing on a career, writing a book or article about something you enjoy, giving back to your community etc. There are other ways to connect with people and some of the best experiences I’ve had with other gay men were nonsexual. No other person can fulfill you, but I know you already know that. Also, unpopular opinion, polyamory almost always leads to hurt feelings and is an unnecessary label. Just say you’re sleeping around like people have been doing for 1000s of years anyway. I would get off too many dating apps. Avoid grindr if you want a partner (people do find partner’s on there, but other apps that require more effort/ questions attract better men). Stick to hinge or okcupid, but if I were you I’d take maybe 6 months to a year OFF dating just to show yourself you can do it (I did this in grad school and it was fantastic). If you insist on continually falling down the wide-open butthole of gay dating, I think the best thing for your dating/ sex life would be to (1) exercise frequently and deliberately (this will better your mood and physique), and (2) become as successful as possible in a job, educational track etc. (success and intelligence are sexy). These things will help your dating life AND require you to do something other than focus on you dating life.

Finally, after your wild post your only question is “should I change how I look”??? You look fine, you’re not “undesirable” as desirability is subjective and no one person can claim another is "undesirable". What you are is in need of something else to do with your life then date until you’re blue in the face. Good luck!!

Funny missives I liked:
- The term “24-hour ex” is absurd. I think you mean “some dude I fucked one time.”
- “I'm fine being the undesirable nerdy type, while my boyfriend (whoever he shall be) is the sexy jock/model/ladykiller who nobody knows is gay/bicurious/FWB.” Haha, I don’t think YOUR being fine with this will be the issue!
- “I was a late bloomer. . . I'm 25 now.” Geez, when were you supposed to start dating, when you were 12?? Doesn't seem that late but maybe I'm crazy.
 
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I'm undesirable.
I was a late bloomer - and women always were angry when I asked them out back then.
I'm 25 now, and people think I'm younger, because of my "baby face".

On dating apps, I get rejected for various reasons - my cock is too small (I'm 4" soft and 7" hard), "You're not my type" (I get that one all the time), because I'm black, "I prefer taller guys" (I get that all the time too, since I'm 5'2"), etc.

And the guys who are interested either date me for 6 months, abuse me for 6 years (my longest relationships were 2 abusive exes for 6 years & 3 years) or their fuckboys who use me to make them finish or they end up being closeted and always go back to women.

I call this my personal life's "double standard", when guys who are attracted to me end up exploiting and abusing me, while the guys who are healthy partners end up ignoring me and friend zoning me, and getting furious when I tell them I'm in love with them.
So I have dated more than 100 people, and a majority of my relationships (except the 3 year one I mentioned earlier) have been long distance.

I would much rather be a bicurious, heteroflexible or bi guy's arm candy, than to fall for legit gay and bi fuckboys who use me again.
I'm also polyamorous (I came out as poly in November 2018, and I dumped my ex because he took me being poly as me cheating on him, which led to him confessing to cheating on me in 2019 - 3 years after he posted revenge p*rn of me online in 2016 - so I dumped him on 3 January 2020).

After him, I had several flings that never worked out, and since my breakup in 2020, I've had 2 relationships (7 months and 24 hours), but they never worked out either.
The 7 month one was with an Argentine boy I thought was the love of my life, until he too, ghosted me (we met on OnlyFans and fell for each other; we dated from 7 October '21 until he ghosted me twice and I dumped him without explanation on 7 May 2022, which happened to be my mom's birthday).

The 24 hour ex I dated from 31 May 2022 to June 1st.
I found out he was exploiting me for money, because he was impoverished and needed to pay his bills.
I paid him $400 ($100 per month for 4 months) and I noticed when I wasn't paying him money, he'd be rude and treat me horribly (we knew each other through Facebook).

Keep in mind, after my 2020 breakup, I had trust issues because my abusive exes at that time were white guys; and I spent a large part of my childhood traveling between the South and the North (I'm from the Northeast, but I lived in Florida and Georgia for several summers as a kid), and I hate the South; it's not my ideal environment.
And that abortion bill being ate up by Southerners isn't changing my mind about the South being a horrible place.

My recent 24 hour ex (the moocher) was from West Virginia, and I don't want to make assumptions like I used to in the past, so I'll just say I seem to attract narcissistic men who betray me by cheating, gossipping about our intimate details, etc., and then when I leave them, they call me ugly (my literal ex-fiancé said to me, "Bye, ugly face!" as he drove home from my house).

I wonder if the discrimination from exes, friends who friend zoned me, dating apps, etc., has led to me thinking I need to change how I look so that my type of man will fall for me.
I'm fine being the undesirable nerdy type, while my boyfriend (whoever he shall be) is the sexy jock/model/ladykiller who nobody knows is gay/bicurious/FWB.

When I had trust issues about why men found me ugly, I always went for Grindr hookups because I settled for sex with not so kind men and them demanding I get them off, instead of staying at home and jacking off to my gay porn subscriptions on SayUncle + Family Dick + Young Perps + Club Amateur USA + Black Godz + XVideos Red like I always do (and then go on Grindr when I tire of masturbating alone and try to find love on Grindr - big mistake).

So instead of having my trust issues, I want to know:
Am I too undesirable to find a "hot" boyfriend?
I've dated sex workers, had affairs with 2 DL celebrities, my 2020 ex was a criminal + Latin gang member who has been harassing me with phone calls to my landline (which makes my family curse me out because his calls disrupt their day; and my family is abusive and homophobic, which is why I sneak around to masturbate when they're either not home, sleeping or distracted and I have to plan out times to masturbate before they walk out their rooms or before they pull up at our driveway and walk into the house and I get caught again).

Should I change how I look?
Am I undesirable?
Or what can I do to get the "hot" guy who wants me to be his?
Remember - I'm fine being the undesirable guy who dates the hot fuckboy or the hot guy who everyone wants; it's a 2 halves of a whole kind of dynamic I'm into.

I attached 2 photos of me, for you guys to see what I should change.
I'm open to any suggestions.

Height - 5'2"
Weight - 140 lbs.
Body Type - Slim/Average?
You have a lot of comments on here so I’ll be brief, you aren’t undesirable dude the fact that you’ve dated these ppl and 2 dl celebs shows that but you need to have self worth and confidence in urself, so I agree with the ppl saying get therapy Cus ur not ugly but even the pic you took you have the look on ur face like ur not worth it. So change how u feel about urself, love urself and stop dating assholes xx
 
I'm turning 25 next month and I am in the same boat as you right now. Just feeling really unattractive, and struggling with body image and then self-worth issues because of it because most guys go for a scruffy, fit/toned big guy and I don't fit that mold.

This post is going to give off very doomer vibes but, yeah I've completely given up on all prospects of dating and being in a relationship. Based on my observation of the gay community and the culture, we very much base most of our values on the physical: sex, and hedonism. There's nothing inherently wrong in that, but if you are looking for something more substantial, then good luck to you. Something like that comes very few and far in between.
 
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I'm turning 25 next month and I am in the same boat as you right now. Just feeling really unattractive, and struggling with body image and then self-worth issues because of it because most guys go for a scruffy, fit/toned big guy and I don't fit that mold.

This post is going to give off very doomer vibes but, yeah I've completely given up on all prospects of dating and being in a relationship. Based on my observation of the gay community and the culture, we very much base most of our values on the physical: sex, and hedonism. There's nothing inherently wrong in that, but if you are looking for something more substantial, then good luck to you. Something like that comes very few and far in between.
You know I’m just gonna use this quote from drag race. “If you can’t love yourself, how in the hell can you love somebody else?”. In the end you have to be happy with yourself and accept yourself. If you’re truly confident in who you are, what you look like and what you stand for then you might find someone. If not that’s also fine. I get you want to have a relationship, but you have to be happy with yourself. A relationship doesn’t define your self worth, it isn’t some type of fix to your issues because those issues will remain there as long as you don’t work on them.

You talk about the “gay community” as if they all share the same values and interests. Maybe you should stop thinking like that, try to see everyone including “the gays” as individuals. Some gays love muscles and fit guys, but others don’t and it’s perfectly fine If they reject you. Again it says nothing about your self worth and who you are. It just means you’re not what they are looking for.

currently I’m single as well and I wasn’t always in the best headspace but I’m working on it and I’ve come to the realisation that I don’t need a relationship to become whole.
 
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You talk about the “gay community” as if they all share the same values and interests.

That's why I mentioned the 'gay community' and not referring to gay men in general. That's the thing. To me, the gay community is just one niche among many others in society. Humans are cliquey in nature and like to stick in groups that they feel their identity fits with.

In any case, look on Instagram, with the hashtag #scruff #instagay, and look at all those parties/gatherings. There's one thing that they all have in common. They all look alike. Attractive people like to comingle with other attractive people, and there is nothing wrong with that. Not saying that all of them are like that, but the majority of them are. That is the reality of it. There is a large emphasis on sex, and looks in the gay community. I mean, come on, it makes sense because the basis of this community is on their sexuality. There is nothing wrong with that anyway. One of the biggest standards in sexuality in general is just trying to be as attractive as possible.

Remember, I say, 'gay community' and not all gay men because not all gay men are in the gay community. I see those as two different things.
 
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currently I’m single as well and I wasn’t always in the best headspace but I’m working on it and I’ve come to the realisation that I don’t need a relationship to become whole.

Yeah, I feel you, I am working on this rn too. I am trying to come to the realization that I'll never really fit in the gay community, something I have always watched from the sidelines since I was very young, and that's okay. I can still live my life.
 
I'm turning 25 next month and I am in the same boat as you right now. Just feeling really unattractive, and struggling with body image and then self-worth issues because of it because most guys go for a scruffy, fit/toned big guy and I don't fit that mold.

This post is going to give off very doomer vibes but, yeah I've completely given up on all prospects of dating and being in a relationship. Based on my observation of the gay community and the culture, we very much base most of our values on the physical: sex, and hedonism. There's nothing inherently wrong in that, but if you are looking for something more substantial, then good luck to you. Something like that comes very few and far in between.
Been watching this thread for a while since I was interested to comment but I've always was kinda hesitant to but I figured why not. I'm gonna turn 25 next year so I get where you're coming from, I had a point months ago where I thought I was worthless because someone I thought wouldn't do me that way started calling me ugly and using pics of me in a disrespectful manner and for awhile I did feel like I was worthless. But then I sat down and realized that it's self projection, and you can't let someone or people project their insecurities and personal problems on you just because they were called ugly or suffer from that and want to project that energy to someone else. Don't ever give up on you finding a relationship since I know someone out there will like you for you

You have to learn to love yourself because if you don't already have some confidence about yourself, that's not going to show, looks and body are OK but an air of confidence and a beautiful persona on the inside will go much farther, I know people who bragged about having girlfriends or boyfriends and now they have nothing to show for it. I wouldn't base the whole gay community on that either, I mean yeah there's gays who'll just have social media or twitters just following and RTing who's got the hottest bodies or biggest dicks but there's also plenty of gays who want something more than that. I try not to be superficial like that since the hottest guys or girls tend to be the most shallow, and looks and sex won't keep a relationship long term, trust me I've observed and seen it alot and you can tell that leaves them empty since that's what most people go for

I would just focus on yourself for the time being tho, you're young and have your whole life and later 20s to date when for now you can be putting time into yourself to get where you want to be. I know for me I'm trying to do that by getting myself my own apartment and branching out and having a fun social life so I can start to get a feel of what I really want for myself
 
I wouldn't base the whole gay community on that either, I mean yeah there's gays who'll just have social media or twitters just following and RTing who's got the hottest bodies or biggest dicks but there's also plenty of gays who want something more than that.

Yeah, I know, but generally those gay guys don't really associate themselves with the 'gay community' so it's not really the same thing. I'll admit, I've really gotten carried away with the hedonist lifestyle, so yeah, I've had some really shallow expectations of what happiness means to me. Being settled with a few trophy guys, and having a band/network of really hot guys to hang out/fuck around with. I live in So Cal, so it's really noticeable here, what I call the "gay elite", especially in West Hollywood. These guys are very successful, and very attractive. Then again, I guess maybe it's just the grass is greener on the other side kind of thing but there are so many times I really wish I could be a muscle jock, or scruffy otter/cub just for one day lol. But yeah, I am starting to wonder if the hedonist lifestyle is for me because it is just giving me nothing but depression because I am not even remotely attractive enough to be part of the "gay hook up pool" lol
 
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I would just focus on yourself for the time being tho, you're young and have your whole life and later 20s to date when for now you can be putting time into yourself to get where you want to be. I know for me I'm trying to do that by getting myself my own apartment and branching out and having a fun social life so I can start to get a feel of what I really want for myself

I guess. Sometimes it's hard to believe I'm already 25 because I still feel really immature for my age. I haven't even been to a bar or a party yet, lol.. Ironically, I have been to a bathhouse/orgy.
 
Yeah, I know, but generally those gay guys don't really associate themselves with the 'gay community' so it's not really the same thing. I'll admit, I've really gotten carried away with the hedonist lifestyle, so yeah, I've had some really shallow expectations of what happiness means to me. Being settled with a few trophy guys, and having a band/network of really hot guys to hang out/fuck around with. I live in So Cal, so it's really noticeable here, what I call the "gay elite", especially in West Hollywood. These guys are very successful, and very attractive. Then again, I guess maybe it's just the grass is greener on the other side kind of thing but there are so many times I really wish I could be a muscle jock, or scruffy otter/cub just for one day lol. But yeah, I am starting to wonder if the hedonist lifestyle is for me because it is just giving me nothing but depression because I am not even remotely attractive enough to be part of the "gay hook up pool" lol
Tbh I wouldn't care tbh, I'm glad to be myself, I don't want to fall into the same shallow pool that most IG gays and Twitter or OF gays fall in since it's very looks and sex based and I don't want that for myself, I've never been someone myself tho to want to be widely popular since I prefer being more low-key and myself, I honestly get anxiety when I get alot of attention so I prefer closer knit circles, saves myself time since I'm very guarded after numerous bad experiences I've had with friends and people alike
I guess. Sometimes it's hard to believe I'm already 25 because I still feel really immature for my age. I haven't even been to a bar or a party yet, lol.. Ironically, I have been to a bathhouse/orgy.
That's not really bad tbh, I haven't been to a party recently but mainly since I don't trust people, I rather just hang out with friends at home or controlled settings. I think sexual situations like that are different since sex is different imo than social gatherings, you can suck someone's dick and have them clap your ass but that doesn't guarantee a long term relationship which I want for myself, girl or guy. But even then, being in a relationship from the outside looking in doesn't impress me xD it doesn't guarantee anything so I never understand why having a partner is a bragging right, maybe if it's guaranteed to last but that's tougher to find these days
 
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