Transphobia questions?

Which group is more transphobic?

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  • group two

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heinz.friedrich

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Transphobia questions

I am confused about transphobia in society and politics. Nearly every political party is accused of transphobia for different reasons and by different groups. (Other countries have more than two parties, so I am not speaking about the USA).

The first group sees gender stereotypes as transphobic and says you cannot assume based on the appearance and stereotypes if someody is a man or a woman.

The second group sees the first group as transphobic and says you have to take hormones to look a specific way and/or to make a surgery . Only then you are a man or a woman.

The third group see the genes as defining what a man or a women is. And that is seen as transphobic by the first two groups. People usually agree that this is transphobic.

The second group want to give children hormones to look a specific way, what the first group sees as transphobic because you traumatize children into believing in stereotypes . You should let the children decide if they are male or female and then try to convince them that they dont have to take hormones and that they dont have to change their look to be a man or woman.

You also could cause people who identify as male or female but dont look a specific way (e.g. androgyn) to feel inadequate, because of the stereotypes you are pushing. You cause them to want to change their look and take hormones, too. So you create problems that were not there before.

Because the third group is usually seen as transphobic i dont ask questions about them. But you can discuss that group in the thread, too. My main question is:

Do you see group one or two as more transphobic?
What are your opinions on this topic?
 

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Group 3 is factually and scientifically correct. Groups 1 and 2 are just part of a current fad called wokeness. It's that really weird religion you've probably heard about. There are many woke sheep on this site in fact. Just stick with the facts and you will get all your answers. Most are common sense. Or play make believe with weirdos.

Just think, one day in the future your going to look back at this time. And you don't want to remember that you thought men could become women and that there are more than 2 genders. Yikes!
 

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Group 3 is factually and scientifically correct. Groups 1 and 2 are just part of a current fad called wokeness. It's that really weird religion you've probably heard about. There are many woke sheep on this site in fact. Just stick with the facts and you will get all your answers. Most are common sense. Or play make believe with weirdos.

Just think, one day in the future your going to look back at this time. And you don't want to remember that you thought men could become women and that there are more than 2 genders. Yikes!
speaking about woke "religions". how about those that want to commandeer "woke" and use it to justify all their "anti" views? just asking/an observation.
 

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Group 3 is factually and scientifically correct. Groups 1 and 2 are just part of a current fad called wokeness. It's that really weird religion you've probably heard about. There are many woke sheep on this site in fact. Just stick with the facts and you will get all your answers. Most are common sense. Or play make believe with weirdos.

Just think, one day in the future your going to look back at this time. And you don't want to remember that you thought men could become women and that there are more than 2 genders. Yikes!
I'm curious why everybody who usually agrees on group 3 is so obsessed with talking about men becoming women. Why do you never talk about women becoming men? Also you say people aren't able to change gender. So, if a transman is a woman in your eyes then why would many cis women be uncomfortable with the idea of them using the female restroom?
 

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I'm curious why everybody who usually agrees on group 3 is so obsessed with talking about men becoming women. Why do you never talk about women becoming men? Also you say people aren't able to change gender. So, if a transman is a woman in your eyes then why would many cis women be uncomfortable with the idea of them using the female restroom?
You can't use logic on these people, it will destroy their tiny underdeveloped brains.
 
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People are definitely allowed to have personal views on trans people, but those views don't give them the right to take away trans peoples rights, and the reason on why people are so focused on trans women, and not trans men, is misogyny.

They talk about protecting children and women from Trans women when in reality statistically speaking the predators are Cis Hetero Men.

For example within the last 20 weeks (as of July 10, 2022) in the USA there has been just under 1000 (983) SA against children. Out of those almost 1000 cases only 2 were from trans people. Where are religious based leaders are at 107, with the average being 5 a week. The biggest culprits are family members or friends of the family though. This is all information easily found online.

The people who are pushing this narrative are usually right wing religious people and this is because they don't want you focusing on the other thing. They are making up false stories about predatory trans people so you don't focus on the actual predators. They don't want you to focus on the cost of living crisis, the horrible housing market, the wage inequality. They are trying to make up fake stories to get you all riled up while they mess with other things. They are trying to make you forget that the real predators are your straight neighbors, your weird family members and the church. And as we have seen.. many political leaders.

I am just saying take a step back, look at what's actually happening, and reanalyze things. Trans people are just trying to exist in peace with the same rights as everyone else.
 
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