Who am I kidding? I'm gay and I need to stop pretending I'm not

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For most of college I had a huge crush/limerence on a close female friend of mine, like a really massive crush. She made it clear that she didn't feel the same way about me, so we were always just friends and never did so much as kiss. However, my crush on her lingered. The thing is, in all that time I was borderline in love with her, I would go home and jerk off to gay porn or to pictures of hot dudes. In all that time I think I jerked off to her a grand total of 2 times. I was fully in love with her and wanted to be with her, but it dawns on me now that I rarely thought about her sexually. Now, well, I'm long over that particular crush and we lost touch (and she's married now). Then I had a crush on another girl at my old job that led nowhere (she made it clear she saw me as a friend). But same thing. And this other girl was really gorgeous and kind of horny, like she was always talking about sex, but even though she was so beautiful I could look at her for hours, I never really thought of her in sexual terms.

Recently, I've gotten a bit of a slight obsession with an IG model. I can spend hours looking at her pics and I actually do think of her sexually, like a lot. The problem is, I get horny looking at her pics and start to jerk off but the boner doesn't happen. So then I switch to pics of hot dudes or gay porn and boom, instant boner and I cum in under 5 minutes. Same thing happens when I see a hot girl at the gym or with hot female celebs or insta thots, etc. They're what get me horny enough to want to masturbate in the first place but jerking off to men is the only way I can reliably get myself off.

I think there are only 2 explanations:

1) I developed some kind of performance anxiety even when jerking off to women and some kind of Pavlovian response that tells my brain I can only get hard and cum when jerking off to men.

2) Or, and Occam's Razor tells us this is the simplest and most logical explanation, I'm straight up gay. Bisexual romantic, sure, in that I'm only romantically into women, but if I can only get hard with men, then that means I'm sexually, full-on gay.

Forgot to add: No, I've never had even the smallest crush on a man, I rarely find men irl (or in porn, or in general, really!) attractive, only a handful of them, and I have zero interest in dating or being in a romantic relationship with a man.
 
Have you had sex with a man yet? Thinking about it and having it as a fantasy is one thing, but naked with your cock down some guy's throat is a good place to find your truth.
No, I haven't.

Are you familiar with the Madonna-Whore complex, OP?

I am familiar with it but what's the relation of that to this particular situation?
 
Thatā€™s fair for me itā€™s sometimes the expressions and how the men are drawn is what turns me on
Tbh, I find the style in American comicbooks far sexier (in both men and women) but it's not something I'd generally use as jerk off material. Although, one time when I was younger I nutted to a particularly hot panel of Rogue and Gambit getting it on.
 
Tbh, I find the style in American comicbooks far sexier (in both men and women) but it's not something I'd generally use as jerk off material. Although, one time when I was younger I nutted to a particularly hot panel of Rogue and Gambit getting it on.
Rogue and gambit are hot so yeah
 
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I am familiar with it but what's the relation of that to this particular situation?

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But same thing. And this other girl was really gorgeous and kind of horny, like she was always talking about sex, but even though she was so beautiful I could look at her for hours, I never really thought of her in sexual terms.

Recently, I've gotten a bit of a slight obsession with an IG model. I can spend hours looking at her pics and I actually do think of her sexually, like a lot. The problem is, I get horny looking at her pics and start to jerk off but the boner doesn't happen.

It's possible that you place female beauty (and to some extent, women, in general) on such a high pedestal that you divorce women from sexuality altogether. Female beauty is "too pure" in your mind and thus any sort of sexual desire that either they or you express is a "defilement" of that beauty. The obsession with women who express no interest and/or have a clear barrier that is not easy to concur to gain access to them (i.e. the IG model) is due to a subconscious belief that women, beautiful women especially, are unattainable to you.

Men, on the other hand, are strictly sexual objects for you and not "pure." They're sexually uninhibited and most importantly easily attainable. Their sexuality and raw expression of it do not defile them because they're not pure and unattainable. They're "easy." In other words, all women are "Madonnas" and all men are "whores" in your unconscious mind.

Just a theory.
 
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It's possible that you place female beauty (and to some extent, women, in general) on such a high pedestal that you divorce women from sexuality altogether. Female beauty is "too pure" in your mind and thus any sort of sexual desire that either they or you express is a "defilement" of that beauty. The obsession with women who express no interest and/or have a clear barrier that is not easy to concur to gain access to them (i.e. the IG model) is due to a subconscious belief that women, beautiful women especially, are unattainable to you.

Men, on the other hand, are strictly sexual objects for you and not "pure." They're sexually uninhibited and most importantly easily attainable. Their sexuality and raw expression of it do not defile them because they're not pure and unattainable. They're "easy." In other words, all women are "Madonnas" and all men are "whores" in your unconscious mind.

Just a theory.
That's an interesting theory, especially this part: "The obsession with women who express no interest and/or have a clear barrier that is not easy to concur to gain access to them (i.e. the IG model) is due to a subconscious belief that women, beautiful women especially, are unattainable to you." That could very well explain my not seeing my crushes in a sexual light, and also because I still saw them as "friends" and I've always had this idea that jerking off to your friends (however attracted you are to them) is kind of...weird.

However, I don't think this part is accurate: "It's possible that you place female beauty (and to some extent, women, in general) on such a high pedestal that you divorce women from sexuality altogether." I don't divorce women from sexuality. I can jerk off just fine to straight porn or lesbian porn, and until a couple months ago, I had no problem doing it to pics of hot women too, including this IG model. Even now, I can get just by thinking sexual fantasies involving women and I get reasonably hard, but when I attempt masturbation I go soft.

The thing is, and I don't think I mentioned this in my original post, around 3 months ago I developed a case of ED. I get spontaneous erections even just by thinking sexual thoughts, nocturnal erections and morning wood, but they're weaker. And when it comes to jerking off, only doing it to men gets me hard-ish enough to finish (because not even during masturbation I get as hard as I used to). Before that, I could get off to pics of hot women just fine (even though I always got harder and cummed faster to pics of men).
 
I can jerk off just fine to straight porn or lesbian porn, and until a couple months ago, I had no problem doing it to pics of hot women too, including this IG model. Even now, I can get just by thinking sexual fantasies involving women and I get reasonably hard

Gay men don't jerk off to pics of hot women or have sexual fantasies that involve women. Straight and bi men do.

I'm not sure I'm clear on what component of yourself you're reading as "gay" when these variables exist. It completely contradicts what it means to be a gay man because it involves a level of sexual attraction to the opposite sex.

If you have acute ED, that is a completely separate issue from sexuality. It's a medical condition. Perhaps reach out to your healthcare provider, if you haven't already, to address it?
 
Gay men don't jerk off to pics of hot women or have sexual fantasies that involve women. Straight and bi men do.

I'm not sure I'm clear on what component of yourself you're reading as "gay" when these variables exist. It completely contradicts what it means to be a gay man because it involves a level of sexual attraction to the opposite sex.

If you have acute ED, that is a completely separate issue from sexuality. It's a medical condition. Perhaps reach out to your healthcare provider, if you haven't already, to address it?
If I had acute ED, my dick wouldn't get hard with anything, but as it stands (pun intended), it does get hard(ish, as hard as it gets) almost exclusively to pics of hot men or gay porn.
 
If I had acute ED, my dick wouldn't get hard with anything

Not necessarily. ED doesn't always just start suddenly. Sometimes it's slow and progressive until you reach a complete inability to achieve an erection regardless of the circumstances.
 
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Something you haven't mentioned: do you get hard watching straight porn? You always seem to go straight for gay porn. It might be the case that watching porn made you desensitized to what you're fantasizing about.
I sometimes feel the need to jerk off but then can't get fully hard, but if i watch some porn i'll be rock hard. That's usually a sign for me to lay off the porn for a while.
 
Something you haven't mentioned: do you get hard watching straight porn? You always seem to go straight for gay porn. It might be the case that watching porn made you desensitized to what you're fantasizing about.
I sometimes feel the need to jerk off but then can't get fully hard, but if i watch some porn i'll be rock hard. That's usually a sign for me to lay off the porn for a while.
Yep, I get hard with straight porn or lesbian porn (or bi porn). I actually try to lean away from the porn a bit, gay or otherwise. I jerk off more to pictures or video of hot men more often than porn.
 
For most of college I had a huge crush/limerence on a close female friend of mine, like a really massive crush. She made it clear that she didn't feel the same way about me, so we were always just friends and never did so much as kiss. However, my crush on her lingered. The thing is, in all that time I was borderline in love with her, I would go home and jerk off to gay porn or to pictures of hot dudes. In all that time I think I jerked off to her a grand total of 2 times. I was fully in love with her and wanted to be with her, but it dawns on me now that I rarely thought about her sexually. Now, well, I'm long over that particular crush and we lost touch (and she's married now). Then I had a crush on another girl at my old job that led nowhere (she made it clear she saw me as a friend). But same thing. And this other girl was really gorgeous and kind of horny, like she was always talking about sex, but even though she was so beautiful I could look at her for hours, I never really thought of her in sexual terms.

Recently, I've gotten a bit of a slight obsession with an IG model. I can spend hours looking at her pics and I actually do think of her sexually, like a lot. The problem is, I get horny looking at her pics and start to jerk off but the boner doesn't happen. So then I switch to pics of hot dudes or gay porn and boom, instant boner and I cum in under 5 minutes. Same thing happens when I see a hot girl at the gym or with hot female celebs or insta thots, etc. They're what get me horny enough to want to masturbate in the first place but jerking off to men is the only way I can reliably get myself off.

I think there are only 2 explanations:

1) I developed some kind of performance anxiety even when jerking off to women and some kind of Pavlovian response that tells my brain I can only get hard and cum when jerking off to men.

2) Or, and Occam's Razor tells us this is the simplest and most logical explanation, I'm straight up gay. Bisexual romantic, sure, in that I'm only romantically into women, but if I can only get hard with men, then that means I'm sexually, full-on gay.

Forgot to add: No, I've never had even the smallest crush on a man, I rarely find men irl (or in porn, or in general, really!) attractive, only a handful of them, and I have zero interest in dating or being in a romantic relationship with a man.
i think you're a bisexual demisexual who prefers men (someone corrects me if I'm wrong)

all gay men with no exceptions can recognize hot women but we don't feel aroused by them
the fact that you do even a lil bit means that you're most certainly on the bi spectrum

you couldn't get off to the model as opposed to your friends because you have no emotional association with her (romantic feelings) and as a such you're demisexual at least when it comes to women

now to the hard stuff ... you may have internalized homophobia because gay men are so fucking diverse (both in terms of personality and looks they come in all combinations) , nothing is holding you back from having romantic feelings for other men except for your internalized prejudices and predisposed programming that society embedded in you
 
you couldn't get off to the model as opposed to your friends because you have no emotional association with her (romantic feelings) and as a such you're demisexual at least when it comes to women
No, this isn't it. I couldn't get off to my friends. In fact, I couldn't even see them fully in a sexual light. But I can get off to women in porn just fine.

As for the internalized homophobia part, I agree, halfway. I think my disinterest in having or even visualizing an emotional connection with a man stems 50% from internalized homophobia/societal conditioning but the other 50% is that I legitimately favor and crave and prefer a romantic relationship with a woman.