Why Straight Bodybuilders Never Wish Happy Pride ? - Homophobia In Bodybuilding.

[hotdickcum]

It is so funny because I just remember a story told by my straight friends who does bodybuilding. They basically were approached by these "rich" gay folks outside of the auditorium after a bodybuilding competition to "join them in a yacht cruise".

Do you really think these straight folks will be waving a rainbow flag and tell everyone happy pride?

 

[dreamer20]

I read thru this thread and I agree with @Marco Tony I personally haven't seen any Straight Body Builders wish Happy Pride either.

^^First you were for Marco Tony's arguments circa June 16, 2023

I'm inclined to agree with you. I have never see Gay Men (who aren't Bodybuilders) talk about Bodybuilding. I've never seen them mention anything about Bodybuilding competitions and anything adjacent. I just stumbled across this thread.

^^And now you are against them. I'm glad to see your position evolve. Unfortunately there is no convincing the OP that he should not be offended by the fact that no one is obligated to wish him "Happy Pride".

 

[Marco Tony]

Gonna put this out here, since I have competed in bodybuilding competition, and most of the competitors are straight and I have a lot of acquaintances and friends in the bodybuilding world who are straight.

These straight competitors and non-competitors who are gym rat and take on bodybuilding as sports - are OBSESSED, IDOLIZED and SUPPORTED these so-called non-greeting happy pride "high profile" bodybuilders. And guess what, I also have gay friends who have no clue who the fuck is Chris Bumstead or can't even recognize or recall any of winners of Mr. Olympia or Arnold Classic. Heck, they don't even know what's the difference between Olympia and Arnold Classic. NONE of my gay friends ever went and support to watch these bodybuilding shows - in fact, the many times I've attended and been to bodybuilding shows are with my straight friends. None of my gay friends buy shit from these high profile bodybuilders. In fact, it was the straight friends that I know who are "willing to pay" for their bodybuilding programs, new supplements and merchandize. Just look at those gymshark boys in your local gym, ask them if they are straight or gay - most of them are straight, they know David Laid.

So to say, MOST or 99.9999999% of supporters of these bodybuilders are gay is not true. You probably want to step back and look at a bigger picture and actually JOIN in the real bodybuilding community. You won't believe how many of these straight people are obsess over counting calories, obsessed with whether Derek Lunsford can be the next "IT" in bodybuilding - or whether a 1-2 second rest in between set is better than 3-5 seconds.

As to my gay friends, they don't give a shit on these bodybuilders. They would like or find some of these bodybuilders attractive - but that is if you look like cover models, or if they have a sex tape to see their dicks - other than that, they won't have Phil Heath or Big Ramy as their wallpapers. They, at least for my gay friends, are more obsessed with Miss Universe.

That made me at least feel minority in terms of supporting these so called bodybuilders - but then again, I also don't wave around my money to these guys since as a gay man, I have my own life. And really, I do not get obsessed with these bodybuilders - as much as my avid straight friends whose life seems to revolve around bodybuilding.

You misunderstood what is said. I was not talking about gay men supporting straight bodybuilders in competitions. I was talking about gay men who gives money to these straight bodybuilders as escorts. So i was talking about bodybuilders and their sugar daddies. Not bodybuilding competitions. Besides, i already mentioned that most gay men dont care about bodybuilding. Gay men are into the muscular men. Not the sport.

So my point is still legit. Straight bodybuilders are supported financially by wealthy gay men. When you see all these straight bodybuilders in Dubai, you know why. You can see tons of them on instagram. They always post pictures of themselves in Dubai. Dont you find it weird that all of a sudden, Dubai is the big trend with straight bodybuilders.

Just to let you know that a couple years ago, straight bodybuilders didnt give a shit about Dubai. It was just not their favorite destination to travel. But now that they knows about all the money they can make there, now Dubai is cool. Yes its cool for them. But only if money is involved. Otherwise, they would never go in Dubai. Straight bodybuilders are very money driven and they are also popular in the middle east. Especially in Dubai. So straight bodybuilders should show how grateful they are and wish happy pride. Gay men are the reason that their expesive lifestyle goes well.

 

[Marco Tony]

^^First you were for Marco Tony's arguments circa June 16, 2023

^^And now you are against them. I'm glad to see your position evolve. Unfortunately there is no convincing the OP that he should not be offended by the fact that no one is obligated to wish him "Happy Pride".

You dont get it. Its not about me. Its about all LGBT people. Why cant you see that the overlooking of LGBT rights by these straight bodybuilders is a slap in the face to gay men and LGBT people in general. These straight bodybuilders just dont care. Only gay bodybuilders wish happy pride. I never had any problems with any bodybuilders. But they should be grateful for the money they makes from gay men. So wishing happy pride is the least they can do.

 

[Bojangles78]

I was never rejected or ignored by any bodybuilders on instagram or in real life. You misunderstood my original post. Actually, i have gay bodybuilders friends and they agree with me. Gay bodybuilders are the only ones who wish happy pride. But its expected. Since they are gay. I created this thread to show the indifference straight bodybuilders seems to have about gay men. Especially when gay men plays a big part in them making money. So i made a point saying that straight bodybuilders should be more grateful to gay men and wish happy pride. But they cant do that. They dont wanna be emasculated. Toxic masculinity in bodybuilding is common.

But I'm curious as to why you need them to say this or "wish you happy pride"? Like why do you need their validation? I could care less if they wish happy pride just like I don't care if a muslim doesn't wish me happy atheist day. I don't need someone elses validation for my existence....which is kinda the whole meaning of pride. We can be who we are with out someone's approval. I get the whole we give them money but personally I think you are looking at that wrong. It's no different then when you meet a celebrity or athlete that you basically paid money to but they don't give you back the ackowledgment. It kinda goes with the whole worshipping someone vibe. You give them money and in return they provide you entertainment. It's that simple. Anything more and I guess you should be thankful, otherwise my suggestion is let it go and let people be as long as they let you be.

 

[hotdickcum]

You misunderstood what is said. I was not talking about gay men supporting straight bodybuilders in competitions. I was talking about gay men who gives money to these straight bodybuilders as escorts. So i was talking about bodybuilders and their sugar daddies. Not bodybuilding competitions. Besides, i already mentioned that most gay men dont care about bodybuilding. Gay men are into the muscular men. Not the sport.

So my point is still legit. Straight bodybuilders are supported financially by wealthy gay men. When you see all these straight bodybuilders in Dubai, you know why. You can see tons of them on instagram. They always post pictures of themselves in Dubai. Dont you find it weird that all of a sudden, Dubai is the big trend with straight bodybuilders.

Just to let you know that a couple years ago, straight bodybuilders didnt give a shit about Dubai. It was just not their favorite destination to travel. But now that they knows about all the money they can make there, now Dubai is cool. Yes its cool for them. But only if money is involved. Otherwise, they would never go in Dubai. Straight bodybuilders are very money driven and they are also popular in the middle east. Especially in Dubai. So straight bodybuilders should show how grateful they are and wish happy pride. Gay men are the reason that their expesive lifestyle goes well.

Jeez, not all straight bodybuilders go to Dubai are escorts. My coach started expanding his business to Dubai because the clients there are rich. Hell, I have a friend in UK, who knows someone in Dubai - some royalty shit, willing to pay for him to be in there - not as sex slave, escort or what not - but purely as companion, friend, pal. You want to realize too, these rich people in Dubai can become a client for PT too, right? Or do you just assume that all rich people are gay and want to have sex with these guys?

Also, you also realized too that homosexuality is illegal in UAE, right? Why would someone who you think profiting from homosexual services would tell everyone that?

You have no clue what is going on in Middle East. How about you figure out first the sexuality and lifestyle of supposed rich folks up there. You even have no first hand connections to people who actually work there. Not everything revolves around gay sex. Your point is not legit. And more importantly, not because you see a series of posts that someone LOOKS like having a luxury lifestyle means they are rich in real life. You DONT KNOW these so called straight bodybuilders.

 

[hotdickcum]

I find it really hypocritical.

Gays don't care about bodybuilding.

But bodybuilders should care about gays.

Money is a transaction. When someone pays, you get something in return, a service or a product. Why paid bodybuilders are "ought" to care about the sexuality of their customer/client? Let alone if these services should be hush hush, illegal in that country or meant to be kept in private?

 

[Sagittarius84]

So i made a point saying that straight bodybuilders should be more grateful to gay men and wish happy pride. But they cant do that. They dont wanna be emasculated. Toxic masculinity in bodybuilding is common.

It's interesting you can identify what they can't (as opposed to won't) do, see a desire to avoid a negative consequence, yet declare them toxic instead of the conditions they're in. Have you ever thought that out? Why can't they do that? If whatever that was was removed do you think they could afford to be less apathetic? Why should a straight man be ok with being emasculated if he chooses to publicly recognize his gay fanbase, shouldn't said fanbase have a bit more inquisition as to what those emasculatory factors are?
This is where empathy should come into play, straight men aren't exactly the most complex creatures on Earth, our motivations tend to be pretty monolithic and easy to discern, so you need to ask yourself are you more interested in the reciprocal affirmations and recognition of whom you support, or are you at all concerned how and why that whom you support may suffer should they lean in to your support?

 

[Sagittarius84]

true, most non homophobic non LGBTIQ men do not really care about LGBT stuff unless they have a gay/bi/trans child or a bisexual/trans partner

That's not inherently true, I think most non homophobic straight men have lgbt relatives, friends, coworkers, etc, that from a civil liberty perspective are very invested in LGBT issues, but what is often more focused upon are the disagreements when it comes to social or political matters.
That and men tend to be more geared to towards "greater good" issues, where women tend to be more invested in the exceptions and minorities.

 

[Notlikeskywalker]

You misunderstood what is said. I was not talking about gay men supporting straight bodybuilders in competitions. I was talking about gay men who gives money to these straight bodybuilders as escorts. So i was talking about bodybuilders and their sugar daddies. Not bodybuilding competitions. Besides, i already mentioned that most gay men dont care about bodybuilding. Gay men are into the muscular men. Not the sport.

So my point is still legit. Straight bodybuilders are supported financially by wealthy gay men. When you see all these straight bodybuilders in Dubai, you know why. You can see tons of them on instagram. They always post pictures of themselves in Dubai. Dont you find it weird that all of a sudden, Dubai is the big trend with straight bodybuilders.

Just to let you know that a couple years ago, straight bodybuilders didnt give a shit about Dubai. It was just not their favorite destination to travel. But now that they knows about all the money they can make there, now Dubai is cool. Yes its cool for them. But only if money is involved. Otherwise, they would never go in Dubai. Straight bodybuilders are very money driven and they are also popular in the middle east. Especially in Dubai. So straight bodybuilders should show how grateful they are and wish happy pride. Gay men are the reason that their expesive lifestyle goes well.

You're forgetting your own arguement now. Your original post was very clearly emphasised on Instagram bodybuilders not wishing followers a happy pride, no mention of escorts. You even claimed they must all be conservatives, but nowhere did you mention escorts.

 

[bigboaster]

You're forgetting your own arguement now. Your original post was very clearly emphasised on Instagram bodybuilders not wishing followers a happy pride, no mention of escorts. You even claimed they must all be conservatives, but nowhere did you mention escorts.

Don't expect consistency from this individual. I'm just saying.

 

[Marco Tony]

Don't expect consistency from this individual. I'm just saying.

Look who's talking... LOL

 

[Marco Tony]

You're forgetting your own arguement now. Your original post was very clearly emphasised on Instagram bodybuilders not wishing followers a happy pride, no mention of escorts. You even claimed they must all be conservatives, but nowhere did you mention escorts.

I didnt forget anything. I already mentioned prostitution of straight bodybuilders in many previous posts. Yes many of them are conservatives. Like in pretty much most sports. Look at the winner of Mr Olympia 2023 Derek Lunsford. His instagram profile says '' God first ''. Only a conservative would say that. No liberals would have anything religious on their instagram profile. I'm not saying that Derek is a right winger. But he is most likely a conservative. And of course, he doesnt wish happy pride and show the rainbow flag on his instagram. Because its sooooo hard to support a good cause. Be honest. Do you think that Derek Lunsford supports same sex marriages?

 

[Notlikeskywalker]

I didnt forget anything. I already mentioned prostitution of straight bodybuilders in many previous posts. Yes many of them are conservatives. Like in pretty much most sports. Look at the winner of Mr Olympia 2023 Derek Lunsford. His instagram profile says '' God first ''. Only a conservative would say that. No liberals would have anything religious on their instagram profile. I'm not saying that Derek is a right winger. But he is most likely a conservative. And of course, he doesnt wish happy pride and show the rainbow flag on his instagram. Because its sooooo hard to support a good cause. Be honest. Do you think that Derek Lunsford supports same sex marriages?

Stop trying. The only person coming across as closed minded is you. "Only a conservative would say that" listen to yourself

 

[dreamer20]

straight bodybuilders...many are conservatives. Look at Mr Olympia 2023 Derek Lunsford. His instagram profile says '' God first ''. Only a conservative would say that. No liberals would have anything religious on their instagram profile...

You appear to be a right-wing conservative yourself, Marco, as you literally invoked right-wingnut Ann Coulter's false propaganda claim that all liberals are "Godless":
ann coulter godless liberals - Bing

 

[Sagittarius84]

So my point is still legit. Straight bodybuilders are supported financially by wealthy gay men. When you see all these straight bodybuilders in Dubai, you know why. You can see tons of them on instagram. They always post pictures of themselves in Dubai. Dont you find it weird that all of a sudden, Dubai is the big trend with straight bodybuilders.

Let's say for argument's sake you are 100 percent accurate as to what's going on with these straight body builders being financed by wealthy gay men. Why then would they jeopardize their straight appeal, that is obviously so apparent, by aligning with LGBT causes? There are straight body builders that wish happy pride, there are gay body builders, neither of which seems to be where these rich individuals are wanting to spend their funds. Your beef is with the gays that will not let go of their straight man fetish.

 

[hotdickcum]

Well since you are convinced that straight bodybuilders were financially supported by gays, let me ask you @Marco Tony - how much did you spend on these guys and who exactly these straight bodybuilders owe you a greeting?

Surely, as a gay man, I didn't spend a dime on any of these guys, so I dont feel they owe me a greeting. Anyone else here provided in LPSG financially supporting these guys and feel that they are obligated to be greeted?

 

[Rican84]

I was never rejected or ignored by any bodybuilders on instagram or in real life. You misunderstood my original post. Actually, i have gay bodybuilders friends and they agree with me. Gay bodybuilders are the only ones who wish happy pride. But its expected. Since they are gay. I created this thread to show the indifference straight bodybuilders seems to have about gay men. Especially when gay men plays a big part in them making money. So i made a point saying that straight bodybuilders should be more grateful to gay men and wish happy pride. But they cant do that. They dont wanna be emasculated. Toxic masculinity in bodybuilding is common.

I read your previous post and replied. You're generalizing and have no facts to back up this mindset you have so.....

B-b-b-bingo.

It's giving 'I harass straight bodybuilders and they block me.'

Stop generalizing and get over it. You probably checked the same two bodybuilders. If you look, you'll find straight body builders that are allies. They don't have to post anything for pride to prove anything for you.

 

[Marco Tony]

You appear to be a right-wing conservative yourself, Marco, as you literally invoked right-wingnut Ann Coulter's false propaganda claim that all liberals are "Godless":
ann coulter godless liberals - Bing

I'm not a conservative at all. I'm a liberal. You are out of your mind. I have nothing to do with her.

 

[Marco Tony]

Let's say for argument's sake you are 100 percent accurate as to what's going on with these straight body builders being financed by wealthy gay men. Why then would they jeopardize their straight appeal, that is obviously so apparent, by aligning with LGBT causes? There are straight body builders that wish happy pride, there are gay body builders, neither of which seems to be where these rich individuals are wanting to spend their funds. Your beef is with the gays that will not let go of their straight man fetish.

Who are they? Because i never saw any straight bodybuilders wishing happy pride.