Anti-white racism is permitted in the gay community?

[DanyQDC]

"Anti-white racism" exists only in the minds of fragile, almost exclusively White conservative Christians and MAGA operatives.

 

[Born2Live]

yes, it's a thing. Just like any other type of racism. Sorry you seem to think White people are so special and powerful, that they can't be prejudiced against. Interesting take.

I'm speaking as a black man, but I have seen people treat white people badly and belittle them because they think they can't be racist to white people. It's trash behavior and trash way if thinking about people who are different from you. Even if people who have the same skin color like them did horrible things. But that's the story of humans on this planet.

 

[pdm8705]

The ones that want to play victim because they feel like there's a benefit

"Anti-white racism" exists only in the minds of fragile, almost exclusively White conservative Christians and MAGA operatives.

I'm speaking as a black man, but I have seen people treat white people badly and belittle them because they think they can't be racist to white people. It's trash behavior and trash way if thinking about people who are different from you. Even if people who have the same skin color like them did horrible things. But that's the story of humans on this planet.

You can't be racist. You can be a terrible person for terrible reasons. But you can't be racist.

 

[borg1125]

If this is the worst of anti-white racism, then it’s obvious white people have it pretty good. Who cares about some stupid IG comments from strangers?

Social media will be the death of humanity. It's only been around for 20 years and see what is has done in so short a time.

The human mind’s dangerous tendency to latch on to negative, low-quality information online, and on the risks of entrapment in a limited worldview that only confirms our worst fears, reinforces narcissistic righteousness, and triggers divisive moral outrage. An Instagram post is about as negative low quality information as you can get.

The World’s Biggest Threat Is Social Media

 

[chrissal480]

Racism shouldn’t exist at all.. but it’s everywhere .. wished it was one word and one thing that didn’t exist

 

[BuckyD]

Seems like Instagram always allowed posters to be very mean.

Now that Meta has eliminated fact checks and oversight we will see a lot more of these type of conversations.

I kind of like the community notes idea as long as they leave the original posts AND all the notes up! Just dont let any pushy loud mouth groups with a lot of time on their hands or a big bot army enlist the site owners to start removing posts.

 

[BuckyD]

Racism shouldn’t exist at all.. but it’s everywhere .. wished it was one word and one thing that didn’t exist

Judging people by any characteristic they were born with and have no control over is so obviously stupid and counterproductive you would think most human being would have figured this out a long time ago.

Judge people by the choices they make in their own lives and the things they have actual control over and not by some arbitraty grouping you think they belong to.

Also nobody can speak for all the members of any significantly large group and people who claim to should be ignored.

 

[irishking44]

The ones that want to play victim because they feel like there's a benefit



You can't be racist. You can be a terrible person for terrible reasons. But you can't be racist.

Keep losing elections

 

[chrissal480]

I never could understand racism.. anyone race or sexual preferences of a person or whatever doesn’t make you better than a white or black person or straight or gay..

I’ve had friends look at me and say” you going to talk to him?” I’m like why wouldn’t I .. and they’d say something stupid like he’s black or whatever.. I didn’t stick around friends like that for long..

 

[FoxHound34]

How does a groups ancestors come up with a way to oppress others that don t look like them (racism) and then scream about racism affecting them when they have never experienced it? This post has to be bait.

 

[Boaxy]

I never could understand racism.. anyone race or sexual preferences of a person or whatever doesn’t make you better than a white or black person or straight or gay..

I’ve had friends look at me and say” you going to talk to him?” I’m like why wouldn’t I .. and they’d say something stupid like he’s black or whatever.. I didn’t stick around friends like that for long..

I don't know where you're from. (Assuming you're from a diverse monolithic country; USA, Canada, Australia, UK, Germany, France etc.) But you may think like that, and that's a good thing you're not a bigot; but you don't know what the tens of other millions of people in the country feel, and what their vices are.

As a Black man, I know despite as much people want to bullshit and save face, there are some families/cultures here in the United States to where if a guy I was dating said he was with a Black guy, although in front of me, and when I'm in their presence; the family would treat me amicably and respectfully if I went over to dinner, or to watch a football game or whatever. As soon as I leave, and behind closed doors I know his family/Mom/Dad etc. would tell him, "Well, you know how Black people are violent, and they are ghetto and uneducated and they are a bunch of criminals, and they steal and they are illiterate and talk that street language. I just want you to think about that, and how Boaxy doesn't really fit with our family."

That's when all of a sudden the ghosting starts, and the guy I was seeing stops messaging me, because at the end of the day, he's going to stand by his family/culture, before some random Black guy he recently met. It sucks, but racism comes in many different shapes and patterns, so yeah. It's sad, but it's the truth.

The LGBTQ/gay/bisexual men aren't exempt to this. Straight couples that are interracial deal with this as well too, don't get me wrong but yeah.

So as much as I applaud you for your "I don't understand racism", you have to understand the bigger picture of it all. Thank you.

 

[mmmmhhh2]

I don't know man.
I don't see any racism here lol.
POC are at this moment being accused for plane accidents that have nothing to do with them.
Imagine something bad happens and someone immediately imagined it was caused by a white person because they *didn't* earn the job they got.
THAT would be "anti white racism".
Also, these guys are getting in on the joke.
The OP opened the conversation about how white gay people claim to love diversity but that seems to stop applying when POC get into the picture, even queer POC.
Also, you said treating the black people as tokens is racist.
Shouldn't that mean it's racist to the black men and not the white guy?
According to you, you described anti black racism, but call it anti white racism.
Don't know how you got there.
I'll never pressure a white man to have colored friends. It'll be miserable for those POC he's trying to approach.
But race was part of the joke in this case.
Racism exists in the queer space.
But it has been directed to the black and brown communities for so long that there are sub cultures in the queer community itself.
Think of underground ballroom and the like.
I'm not trying to give you a history lesson here but that ain't "anti white racism" honey.
Trans people are having it rough out here too.
All while mostly white gays (with a miniscule number of colored gays chant "f@gs for trump".
It must be a privilege to think that this is discrimination honestly.
I envy you.

 

[Born2Live]

The ones that want to play victim because they feel like there's a benefit



You can't be racist. You can be a terrible person for terrible reasons. But you can't be racist.

Respectfully, I don't think that's how the word is defined.

 

[michael_3165]

This ol chestnut.

I suspect that I've vastly underestimated racism in the US because coming from the UK we don't see it on the same scale (at least according to black friends and colleagues).

Firstly, we need to define what we mean by racism. I don't accept the new version some have floated re: power and oppression. For me it's a belief that ones race is superior to another and actions that lead to discrimination.

By that definition white people can be victims of racism. This shouldn't be controversial, though it seems some prefer to be eternal victims and hoard the oppressed points. But I'm not going to go down that road. Simply, no.

Is there racism against black and Asian folk? Yes.
Is there racism against white folk? Yes.
Is one more acceptable than the other? Yes.
Is there a historical context that makes it more socially accepted to be racist toward one race more than another? Yes.
Does that context make it right or justified? No.

People need to stop treating others badly... ANYBODY badly... and quit justifying hate and racism. We are all human beings and we should be kind to all humans. If you believe white people deserve mockery, disrespect, being pushed down the ladder, then you are the problem. Just as much ad white folk who think black or Asian people shouldn't have chances.

Do not delude oneself into thinking you are virtuous by punishing white folk for past evils. You aren't. It just makes you a bitter, twisted, resentful, human being with a chip on their shoulder. And that never leads to good karma. So cut it out.

All the best

 

[borg1125]

The ones that want to play victim because they feel like there's a benefit.

That's the game the thread OP is playing. Congrats for pointing it out.

 

[borg1125]

I suspect that I've vastly underestimated racism in the US because coming from the UK we don't see it on the same scale (at least according to black friends and colleagues).

Hitler quite admired US racism. It's scale is quite unmatched in the modern world. So it is no surprised it is mirrored in the US gay community. From a macro level not much has changed since then.

 

[michael_3165]

Hitler quite admired US racism. Its scale is quite unmatched in the modern world. So it is no surprise that it is mirrored in the US gay community. From a macro level, not much has changed since then.

Did black folk have the right to vote, marry whites, get high position jobs, attend any university, have affirmative action, etc, in the 1930s? im surprised they did.

 

[michael_3165]

As a Black man, I know despite as much people want to bullshit and save face, there are some families/cultures here in the United States to where if a guy I was dating said he was with a Black guy, although in front of me, and when I'm in their presence; the family would treat me amicably and respectfully if I went over to dinner, or to watch a football game or whatever. As soon as I leave, and behind closed doors I know his family/Mom/Dad etc. would tell him, "Well, you know how Black people are violent, and they are ghetto and uneducated and they are a bunch of criminals, and they steal and they are illiterate and talk that street language. I just want you to think about that, and how Boaxy doesn't really fit with our family."

How do you KNOW that? Have they told you that's the case? Just curious.

 

[borg1125]

Did black folk have the right to vote, marry whites, get high position jobs, attend any university, have affirmative action, etc, in the 1930s? im surprised they did.

All your stats are sliding backwards. You think those "rights" are permanent and cannot be reversed and rendered meaningless? It's all fantasy if you think so. There are ingenious sinister ways you can get around everything. This saucy porn site isn't the venue to discuss. But it is what it is. Look at the race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. of exactly WHO is in power reveals your answer.

 

[Born2Live]

This ol chestnut.

I suspect that I've vastly underestimated racism in the US because coming from the UK we don't see it on the same scale (at least according to black friends and colleagues).

Firstly, we need to define what we mean by racism. I don't accept the new version some have floated re: power and oppression. For me it's a belief that ones race is superior to another and actions that lead to discrimination.

By that definition white people can be victims of racism. This shouldn't be controversial, though it seems some prefer to be eternal victims and hoard the oppressed points. But I'm not going to go down that road. Simply, no.

Is there racism against black and Asian folk? Yes.
Is there racism against white folk? Yes.
Is one more acceptable than the other? Yes.
Is there a historical context that makes it more socially accepted to be racist toward one race more than another? Yes.
Does that context make it right or justified? No.

People need to stop treating others badly... ANYBODY badly... and quit justifying hate and racism. We are all human beings and we should be kind to all humans. If you believe white people deserve mockery, disrespect, being pushed down the ladder, then you are the problem. Just as much ad white folk who think black or Asian people shouldn't have chances.

Do not delude oneself into thinking you are virtuous by punishing white folk for past evils. You aren't. It just makes you a bitter, twisted, resentful, human being with a chip on their shoulder. And that never leads to good karma. So cut it out.

All the best

This i wholeheartedly agree with