"bbc", "mandingo", Is It Racial Fetishization Of Black Men?

[HOU_HEADHUNTER]

The cuckhold kink community is rife with disgusting racism towards black men and the fetishization of black men aka "Bulls" is rampant within those groups. I've stumbled upon Reddit groups dedicated to the kink. I often read the most vile and disgusting stories by white couples who seek the company of black men. The way they speak of the black men is comparable to props and even animals, hence calling them "Bulls." People may find this as a shock but there are some that are extremely turned on by the possibility of the white wife becoming pregnant. Usually the births are terminated because nothing could be worse than having to raise a black man's child according to them. Furthermore, it adds to the humiliation factor of it. Here is a post that I saved to share here for others to read and discuss. I personally find this very strange and disturbing as a black man.

 

[Southeasterner]

The cuckhold kink community is rife with disgusting racism towards black men and the fetishization of black men aka "Bulls" is rampant within those groups. I've stumbled upon Reddit groups dedicated to the kink. I often read the most vile and disgusting stories by white couples who seek the company of black men. The way they speak of the black men is comparable to props and even animals, hence calling them "Bulls." People may find this as a shock but there are some that are extremely turned on by the possibility of the white wife becoming pregnant. Usually the births are terminated because nothing could be worse than having to raise a black man's child according to them. Furthermore, it adds to the humiliation factor of it. Here is a post that I saved to share here for others to read and discuss. I personally find this very strange and disturbing as a black man.
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Quite disturbing! And the choice of the words ("the bull"), what weird thing!
I´m sorry for the child. And the black man should know that he has a child. These problematic adults are selfish. Imagine how the child will feel in the future... So many unanswered questions because of the irresponsibility of three adults.

 

[HOU_HEADHUNTER]

Quite disturbing! And the choice of the words ("the bull"), what weird thing!
I´m sorry for the child. And the black man should know that he has a child. These problematic adults are selfish. Imagine how the child will feel in the future... So many unanswered questions because of the irresponsibility of three adults.

My thoughts exactly. My concern is mostly for the child. I'd also be curious to know if the couple maintained some kind of relationship with the biological father that doesn't involve him being "their bull," for the sake of the child. That is to say if the biological father wants to be involved in the child's life considering his intentions were not to father a child with a couple he was helping fulfill a sexual fantasy.

 

[Southeasterner]

My thoughts exactly. My concern is mostly for the child. I'd also be curious to know if the couple maintained some kind of relationship with the biological father that doesn't involve him being "their bull," for the sake of the child. That is to say if the biological father wants to be involved in the child's life considering his intentions were not to father a child with a couple he was helping fulfill a sexual fantasy.

Even if the black man doesn't want to be the father of the child, they both have the right to know about each other. What if the child needs a blood or organ donation in the future? What if the father wants contact with the child?

If I were the black man, I would have said "no" from the beginning. A couple who invites him and calls him "bull" doesn't deserve attention. It's disrespectful. It's comparing him to an animal. The couple is wrong for this deplorable attitude - which, to me, is also unquestionably racist - and he is wrong for agreeing to be treated like an animal. With weird people like that, there's no talking. It´s just walk away and nothing more.

 

[borg1125]

The cuckhold kink community is rife with disgusting racism towards black men and the fetishization of black men aka "Bulls" is rampant within those groups. I've stumbled upon Reddit groups dedicated to the kink. I often read the most vile and disgusting stories by white couples who seek the company of black men. The way they speak of the black men is comparable to props and even animals, hence calling them "Bulls." People may find this as a shock but there are some that are extremely turned on by the possibility of the white wife becoming pregnant. Usually the births are terminated because nothing could be worse than having to raise a black man's child according to them. Furthermore, it adds to the humiliation factor of it. Here is a post that I saved to share here for others to read and discuss. I personally find this very strange and disturbing as a black man.
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Save yourself my bruthua and your mental health and not focus on kink/marginal communities. If you think you can save humanity from humanity it's a fool's errand. My cure: Get naked, run on a beach in the sun, hike a trail, yoga, no internet.

 

[HOU_HEADHUNTER]

Save yourself my bruthua and your mental health and not focus on kink/marginal communities. If you think you can save humanity from humanity it's a fool's errand. My cure: Get naked, run on a beach in the sun, hike a trail, yoga, no internet.

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It doesn't affect me as much as you might think but I do like researching and discussing it. I find that there are many that are unaware. I know that I can save most but it is a topic that doesn't get enough attention in my opinion. Very rarely is it linked to racism because at face value it seems like it's not. I have a good grasp on the types of people that on either end of the kink and trust me when I tell you, I don't give them the time of day.

 

[Southeasterner]

It doesn't affect me as much as you might think but I do like researching and discussing it. I find that there are many that are unaware. I know that I can save most but it is a topic that doesn't get enough attention in my opinion. Very rarely is it linked to racism because at face value it seems like it's not. I have a good grasp on the types of people that on either end of the kink and trust me when I tell you, I don't give them the time of day.

I absolutely agree with you and I'm not even black.

I don't understand the obsessive need of certain black men to have sex with white women, even if they are seen as mere sexual objects. They see having sex with a white woman as a gain, an advantage, a personal conquest. What is it about a white woman that makes her more desired than a black, Latina, or Asian woman? They are all women.

You are right that this is a subject that deserves more attention. It is impressive the subconscious need of certain black men for approval from white people. And it is something they cannot even see. No one needs anyone's approval. We are all human. We all have value.

 

[mineiscrafted]

My thoughts exactly. My concern is mostly for the child. I'd also be curious to know if the couple maintained some kind of relationship with the biological father that doesn't involve him being "their bull," for the sake of the child. That is to say if the biological father wants to be involved in the child's life considering his intentions were not to father a child with a couple he was helping fulfill a sexual fantasy.

i have a feeling that he probably doesnt care, if he was having unprotected sex he knew there was a chance she might get pregnant and didnt care

 

[HOU_HEADHUNTER]

i have a feeling that he probably doesnt care, if he was having unprotected sex he knew there was a chance she might get pregnant and didnt care

Quite possibly. I think a big part of the kink and the deal is that the "bull" will ejaculate in the wife because that's apart of the kink of it for the couple. In my own research from being in those kind of kink groups, those couples wear it as a badge of honor if the wife gets pregnant but those pregnancies usually don't come to term because once the proof is there that a pregnancy occurred, the fetus is terminated. I find that there is a whole negotiation process that happens. The couple seeks out their bull and they might meet up over dinner to see if the vibe is right and in the course of that dinner/interview the expectations for the night are laid out. Questions are asked from both parties including health status etc. They may even share their medical history to ensure that everyone is free of stds. The "bull" has to then decide if the terms work for him because often times he would have to agree to engage with the husband in some kind of sexual manner which can sometimes be the deal breaker. Surprisingly, it's all pretty well planned out when you actually consider that these are usually thought to be spontaneous hookups.

 

[Sagittarius84]

It is impressive the subconscious need of certain black men for approval from white people.

I think that's a very convenient observation; personally I think any demographic that has been ostracized from the status quo is going to seek it's approval when they have no other option but to survive in it..
Plus, the US in particular had this historically quirky habit, any time when black people invested and sought approval from amongst solely themselves, leaders of such agendas ended up dead and locations where these plans were formulated and maintained seemed to spontaneously explode or combust.


It also occurs to me the only time people scoff when one demographic seeks or at least appears to seek the status quos approval is when it's black people...I tend to not see them chime in when asian people get accused of seeking white people's approval...actually to that point it's only when American black folk exhibit these behaviors that it gets called out, wherein African and Caribbean black people get a pass for exhibiting the same or similar behaviors.

 

[Southeasterner]

I think that's a very convenient observation; personally I think any demographic that has been ostracized from the status quo is going to seek it's approval when they have no other option but to survive in it..
Plus, the US in particular had this historically quirky habit, any time when black people invested and sought approval from amongst solely themselves, leaders of such agendas ended up dead and locations where these plans were formulated and maintained seemed to spontaneously explode or combust.


It also occurs to me the only time people scoff when one demographic seeks or at least appears to seek the status quos approval is when it's black people...I tend to not see them chime in when asian people get accused of seeking white people's approval...actually to that point it's only when American black folk exhibit these behaviors that it gets called out, wherein African and Caribbean black people get a pass for exhibiting the same or similar behaviors.

Unfortunately, black people have internalized the idea propagated by racist whites that they are inferior. Fortunately, new generations are already being born and growing up with a different mentality and celebrating their own race.

I find it frustrating that this happens, considering that black people excel in all areas. Just look at the prodigy that is Simone Biles in Sports! However, when you were constantly bombarded with racist ideologies, it is difficult to undo decades of brainwashing. Fortunately, this issue is being debated in academia and also in the media, and this has brought light to this serious issue.

 

[Southeasterner]

Quite possibly. I think a big part of the kink and the deal is that the "bull" will ejaculate in the wife because that's apart of the kink of it for the couple. In my own research from being in those kind of kink groups, those couples wear it as a badge of honor if the wife gets pregnant but those pregnancies usually don't come to term because once the proof is there that a pregnancy occurred, the fetus is terminated. I find that there is a whole negotiation process that happens. The couple seeks out their bull and they might meet up over dinner to see if the vibe is right and in the course of that dinner/interview the expectations for the night are laid out. Questions are asked from both parties including health status etc. They may even share their medical history to ensure that everyone is free of stds. The "bull" has to then decide if the terms work for him because often times he would have to agree to engage with the husband in some kind of sexual manner which can sometimes be the deal breaker. Surprisingly, it's all pretty well planned out when you actually consider that these are usually thought to be spontaneous hookups.

The use of the word "bull" upsets and saddens me. And the frequent termination of pregnancies through abortion shows that black lives do not matter to these people. They are selfish, they just want to fulfill their fetishistic fantasy and then discard the black man and the fetus.

In these cases, I think the black man should, on his own, make sure to avoid pregnancy by always using a condom. After all, it is his genetic material and his child as well.

 

[borg1125]

Unfortunately, black people have internalized the idea propagated by racist whites that they are inferior.

I'd like to see your data on how that is even remotely true. It's why we have and other minorities have created communities, literature, music, culture, etc. outside of the white straight faux-Christian world. We knew we were unique and have value and didn't need the approval of whites. The gay white male world, for example, has done the same. Hello gay pride. Hello black pride. And never mind being "white" was simply created out of nothing to justify the atrocities being committed against different peoples around the world much like we all are doing to the non-human life forms on the planet.

 

[Southeasterner]

I'd like to see your data on how that is even remotely true. It's why we have and other minorities have created communities, literature, music, culture, etc. outside of the white straight faux-Christian world. We knew we were unique and have value and didn't need the approval of whites. The gay white male world, for example, has done the same. Hello gay pride. Hello black pride. And never mind being "white" was simply created out of nothing to justify the atrocities being committed against different peoples around the world much like we all are doing to the non-human life forms on the planet.

You are right. I will correct my comment: where it says "black people", read "some black people". I have no source to cite, I commented based on what I heard from black people.

I appreciate your contribution and, next time, I will try not to generalize in my comment.

I support everyone creating own music, literature and communities. That is how the world progresses. I also do not vilify white people, because that is also a generalization. Not all white people are bad; in this specific case, it is racist white people. Because good and bad people exist, regardless of gender, race and ethnicity.

 

[michael_3165]

I'd argue black men have perpetuated the stereotype in the way they have often bragged about size etc in the past. So many black guys I know have alluded to their bbc especially in youth.

I also find that black women do this a fair bit too.

 

[Sagittarius84]

I'd argue black men have perpetuated the stereotype in the way they have often bragged about size etc in the past. So many black guys I know have alluded to their bbc especially in youth.

I also find that black women do this a fair bit too.

Well, in the West,what classically(beyond free labor) have black men been valued for? Let's take something like fatherhood stats; now that we know black fathers tend to spend more quality time on average with their children, do you think maybe black men would've leaned into that more historically if it were actually valued? Western civilization spent most of the modern age reducing black people to veritable consumable chattel, and now some members of that society wonder why black men would lean into being food, make it make sense.

 

[michael_3165]

Well, in the West,what classically(beyond free labor) have black men been valued for? Let's take something like fatherhood stats; now that we know black fathers tend to spend more quality time on average with their children, do you think maybe black men would've leaned into that more historically if it were actually valued? Western civilization spent most of the modern age reducing black people to veritable consumable chattel, and now some members of that society wonder why black men would lean into being food, make it make sense.

I simply don't buy that narrative though. Maybe I am just very sheltered. I know not a single person who views black men in that way. At all.

 

[unknown975]

The cuckhold kink community is rife with disgusting racism towards black men and the fetishization of black men aka "Bulls" is rampant within those groups. I've stumbled upon Reddit groups dedicated to the kink. I often read the most vile and disgusting stories by white couples who seek the company of black men. The way they speak of the black men is comparable to props and even animals, hence calling them "Bulls." People may find this as a shock but there are some that are extremely turned on by the possibility of the white wife becoming pregnant. Usually the births are terminated because nothing could be worse than having to raise a black man's child according to them. Furthermore, it adds to the humiliation factor of it. Here is a post that I saved to share here for others to read and discuss. I personally find this very strange and disturbing as a black man.
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The cuckold kink involves a "hotwife" (the adultrous wife that humiliates her lover), a "cuck" (or cuckold, the guy watching his partner fucked by someone else) and a "bull" (the stranger who fucks the wife in front of the legitimate partner). The bull might be white, black or whatever.

Based on what I have read, cuckolds don't necessarily seek a long-term relationship. They just wanna feel humiliated. The pain caused by infidelity is what they like. The more they grow jealous, the more they're sexually aroused. Some just want to see their relationship messed up and see the wife leaving him for the bull or getting pregnant by him. From what I've read, it seems to be the ultimate fantasy.

Most bulls are dominant and cucks act like subs. Sissy acting cucks are often humiliated and "bullied" by the cheating wife and the "alpha male".

 

[Manonymous11]

I'm astonished to read about this "bull" story. Sad that people do not evolve and keep seeing black guys as just a fantasy and not a person with a history and things to discover.
I used to fantasy a lot on black guys. And then I got to be in a couple with one and then another, African guys. It was really a learning. About religion, family, values, pride, and so on. And now, I can say I am certainly much less racist or stupid than I was before. Still some work to do but on the right track. I'm very happy with my Congolese bf now. He is not a bull, he is a hard working, very handsome, masculine man, caring, fan of mangas, and an artist.

 

[Southeasterner]

The cuckold kink involves a "hotwife" (the adultrous wife that humiliates her lover), a "cuck" (or cuckold, the guy watching his partner fucked by someone else) and a "bull" (the stranger who fucks the wife in front of the legitimate partner). The bull might be white, black or whatever.

Based on what I have read, cuckolds don't necessarily seek a long-term relationship. They just wanna feel humiliated. The pain caused by infidelity is what they like. The more they grow jealous, the more they're sexually aroused. Some just want to see their relationship messed up and see the wife leaving him for the bull or getting pregnant by him. From what I've read, it seems to be the ultimate fantasy.

Most bulls are dominant and cucks act like subs. Sissy acting cucks are often humiliated and "bullied" by the cheating wife and the "alpha male".

This doesn't sound healthy to me. If a friend of mine told me that he fantasizes about being this or he wants to be this, I would suggest him to see a psychologist. I'm not saying this in a derogatory sense, but so that the person can better understand why he wants to be this way.