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I agree. I have to imagine for those who are muscular and can pass for straight have to deal with the extra expectation that you are always surrounded by women or expected to be married to a woman and start a family. Your "in the closet burden" may be different than this who can't pass but it's still a burden. I can sympathize with that.

That said, I think it is also fair to mention something. The muscular, white, straight passing guys, especially the white, have always received more immediate support from the community than anyone else, and if you white and muscular the divide is even larger. Colton will receive all of the support all of the that Michael Sam and Jason Collins didn't get and we all know why. The public face of the community has always been or leaned white, which is unfortunate given that A LOT of its culture comes from the Black members.

This also ties into a superficial problem the community has. I haven't paid much attention to Colton before but I've heard any the questions stuff he did. I doubt any of that will be address, just like Aaron Schock. Scared and in the closet he may have been but he actively worked against the community and then made zero effort to address or rectify it. But because he is white and muscular, no one says anything.

This is an issue within the community. It's not Colton's fault, or yours, or the fault of anyone else that comes out and fits the white, straight passing, and muscular description. It's a problem within the community that needs to be address for anything to change. Everyone that comes out, public figure or not, straight passing or not, muscular or not, and regardless of race deserves the same amount of support.
Well apparently Colton doesn't deserve it according to some activists on here and other social medias lmao
 

Trying to dismiss criticism as all just a bunch of “bitter” folks who are hating because he’s white and conventionally good-looking, it just reveals how shallow you are and how much you don’t give a shit. The facts are what they are. As I mentioned in my previous post, support him all you want, but don’t try to manipulate the facts or pretend as if there aren’t good reasons that Colton has received pushback and criticism.

And once again, the dude ain’t all that “straight passing”, nor does he come off like a typical “straight’ guy”. He may not be an over-the-top “queen” or overtly “fem”, but he has always come off like any random InstaGay. Thus why he’s been batting away “gay rumors” and dealing with bullying since he was a teen.
 
Trying to dismiss criticism as all just a bunch of “bitter” folks who are hating because he’s white and conventionally good-looking, it just reveals how shallow you are and how much you don’t give a shit. The facts are what they are. As I mentioned in my previous post, support him all you want, but don’t try to manipulate the facts or pretend as if there aren’t good reasons that Colton has received pushback and criticism.

And once again, the dude ain’t all that “straight passing”, nor does he come off like a typical “hetero”. He may not be an over-the-top “queen” or overtly “fem”. But he has always come off like any random InstaGay.
Chill queen all I said is sure. U are getting so angry over a dude that doesn't even know u exist.
 
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Chill queen all I said is sure. U are getting so angry over a dude that doesn't even know u exist.

I’m probably more legit “straight passing” and “typically straight acting” than Colton is. While the fact that there are plenty of “masculine” white dudes who are coming at Colton or simply haven’t showed support completely undermines your lame ass theory, which has undercurrents of racism and femme-phobia. You’re also the one responding to a handful of posts and borderline trolling people. So, clearly you care as well. But you clearly don’t care enough to acknowledge the facts and the various criticism people. While the discussion isn’t really that much about Colton himself. It’s more about circumstances, privilege, identity politics, celebrity, consequences, etc.

As I said, reducing all the criticism to “bitter queens” who are mad that he’s white and decent looking just reveals what an ass you are. It’s not an argument or a defense. It’s just a deflection.
 
That clip looks like a scene from a daytime soap. I don’t take any of this “reality” shit seriously. For almost everyone who participates it’s mostly a money grabbing, ego boosting and clout-chasing game. If “The Bachelor” franchise was all people had to criticize Colton for, I would look past it while still side-eyeing him. It’s the fact that there’s much more there that is the problem.

Colton’s mannerisms, voice and facial expressions definitely screamed “Queer”! in many of the clips I’ve seen of him. But I try not to immediately come to conclusions. While the gender, gender expressions and mannerisms spectrum is just as wide and varied and fluid as the romantic, sexual, emotional, commitment spectrum can be.
 
That looks like a scene from a daytime soap. I don’t take any of this “reality” shit seriously. For almost everyone who participates it’s mostly a money grab, an ego boosting and clout-chasing game. If “The Bachelor” franchise was all people had to criticize Colton for, I would look past it.

Colton’s mannerisms, voice and facial expressions definitely screamed “Queer”! in many of the clips I’ve seen of him. But I try not to immediately come to conclusions. While the gender, gender expressions and mannerisms spectrum is just as wide and varied and fluid as the romantic, sexual, emotional, commitment spectrum can be.
I didnt even know who he was and the first second he opened his mouth I knew he was gay. Maybe my gaydar is good or people are just stupid
 
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Poor Colton!
The tears, the timed audience clapping, that loud ass suit. I'm still confused who thought that man was straight. The brotha was the only one in that clip to keep it real with his facial expressions. He knew what he knew, but of course Colto had to be the victim.
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The tears, the timed audience clapping, that loud ass suit. I'm still confused who thought that man was straight. The brotha was the only one in that clip to keep it real with his facial expressions. He knew what he knew, but of course Colto had to be the victim.
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Its really crazy lol! Its so obvious hes gay.
 

The obsession some of these Colton supporters/“fans” have with making this entirely a white and “masc” thing just reflects where y’all priorities are and how much y’all don’t give a shit about what anyone has to say. You know you can’t actually get into any of the real issues, because you have no defense for all his actions. I’m inherently pan-sexual and have had a couple of hetero relationships and people tend to be a “surprised” or whatever when I “come out” to someone. But I could the biggest queen on the planet and everyone who’s criticizing Colton could be “queens”, that wouldn’t make their criticisms and insights non legit, and it wouldn’t make Colton anymore “straight passing”. You have to view everyone who’s criticized Colton as “queens”, because those are type of people you have no respect for. And if you deem all the people criticizing Colton as “queens” it means you don’t have to give their viewpoints any weight.

Honestly, the fact that some of y’all even think Colton is truly “masc” and “straight passing” just reflects that you’re probably not as “masc” and “straight passing” as you think you are.

If you know you don’t have any real perspective or real insight into the discussion just STFU. The corny shade throwing just makes you and all of Colton’s defenders/sympathizers look bad.
 
Do any of his supporters actually have anything to add beyond “people are just hating on him because they’re bitter ‘queens’, and he’s white and good-looking”? Anything at all? Because they’re coming off like children and trolls who can’t indulge an adult conversation. And you’re accidentally coming off like very basic “queens” yourselves.
 
I’m sorry it’s just hard for me to be happy for him.(It might just be me)
Another good looking gay white male who is primarily going to associate with exclusively other gay white males. Who has been blessed with a Netflix show so I can watch two gay white elitist say shit like period, Yas, and other phrases made popular by black women.
Why should I be excited for Colton?