Edison Fan

[dichpig]

Thanks to all the thoughtful replies, I'll just clarify that the reason I brought up anti-black racism in the US vs. China is certainly not because it isn't a problem in China, but simply to counter the talking point that "leaving out black queer films is more unacceptable than others" since there is no historical reason in China that anti-Black racism is uniquely terrible. In fact the Chinese are engaging in, right now, cultural cleansing of its many minorities (the Uyghurs are just the most prominent) and if he are to use his platform to elevate diverse voices I'd say these non-Chinese Asian queer cinema in and outside of China are worth a look.

As I alluded to in my initial post, from my impression Fan's behaviors have always been, well, problematic, so I'm certainly not defending him. And I'd be entirely unsurprised if he turns out to have some sort of dislike of black queers, which I know many Asians do; in fact I know them as often the biggest white cock chaser, more so than the other races. I just think these types of allegations should be made with more seriousness, even tho (from what I've seen) Fan certainly didn't conduct himself well.

At the end of the day many of us in this community carry trauma and we're all a bit messy inside; honestly not much of what Fan does outside of posting thirst pics is worth defending, so I'll just go back to admiring his body...

As a gay Asian I find your comments disgusting and abhorrent. It's entirely disgusting that you would make a broad brush statement saying all Asians hate black people, and say it as thought you are an authority on the subject. Asians are not a monolith and you are no purveyor of culture to make such a sweeping, baseless comment. Your post, and frankly, the many over the top responses here to a pretty innocuous post that Edison made are part of the widespread gaslighting of Asians and false narrative of Asians being inherently racist. Asians are no more racist or biased than any other group. If you had replaced Asians with any other race in your post, your post would be unequivocally racist. But because it's about Asians, a group that has been shut out of conversations about race because of FALSE notions that we are a privileged / model minority, it gets a pass.

Is Edison a narcissist? Most likely. But it is a huge leap to accuse him of being racist. YOU CHOSE TO take something innocuous and project YOUR OWN racialized / US-centric world view onto it. That mere fact that you think the rest of world should see the world through your own lens is inherently ETHNOCENTRIC AND RACIST.

The comments here are part of a long pattern of racial gaslighting that Asians have ALWAYS been subjected to. We are victims of racism and yet we are made out to be the racists. We are shouted down when we try to speak up for ourselves (exactly like what is being done to Edison by some overdramatic queens).

 

[cavilll]

As a gay Asian I find your comments disgusting and abhorrent. It's entirely disgusting that you would make a broad brush statement saying all Asians hate black people, and say it as thought you are an authority on the subject. Asians are not a monolith and you are no purveyor of culture to make such a sweeping, baseless comment. Your post, and frankly, the many over the top responses here to a pretty innocuous post that Edison made are part of the widespread gaslighting of Asians and false narrative of Asians being inherently racist. Asians are no more racist or biased than any other group. If you had replaced Asians with any other race in your post, your post would be unequivocally racist. But because it's about Asians, a group that has been shut out of conversations about race because of FALSE notions that we are a privileged / model minority, it gets a pass.

Is Edison a narcissist? Most likely. But it is a huge leap to accuse him of being racist. YOU CHOSE TO take something innocuous and project YOUR OWN racialized / US-centric world view onto it. That mere fact that you think the rest of world should see the world through your own lens is inherently ETHNOCENTRIC AND RACIST.

The comments here are part of a long pattern of racial gaslighting that Asians have ALWAYS been subjected to. We are victims of racism and yet we are made out to be the racists. We are shouted down when we try to speak up for ourselves (exactly like what is being done to Edison by some overdramatic queens).

what

 

[nivora]

what

just a lot of whataboutisms

 

[dichpig]

just a lot of whataboutisms

Brain dead response

 

[gagabooy112]

Wow ppl got so carried away by him just sharing queer movies that he likes jajaja, so if we dont like a black queer movie am I racist? Lets be honest, Moonlight was beautiful but boring so yeah I dont like it.

Also i think even Asian people are giving the same amount of racism that any other minority, maybe other minorities dont see it is because they dont live it. I remember a few years ago, everyone calling "Chinese" to any asian ppl cuz it was easier to learn other groups of Asian countries.

And as always we only care when we are targeted, I remember distinctly when BLM was at its pick, everyone was marching, sharing content blah blah, but when in the US the attacks towards Asian Americans was so bad, I rarely saw any support from black ppl, latin ppl, POC in general. So dont pretend like you care about everyone when in reality you care about you and your own race.

 

[miserygame]

I mean as someone who lived in China for almost a year, there's plenty of racism towards brown people, especially black people, the Chinese were colonized by lots of western superpowers back in the day, so the Chinese see white people as 'desirable 'prestigious' etc, especially in the dating scene, it's something that we see a lot here in America, where Asians (I'm talking about east Asians btw) either t date Asians or date whites exclusively. Now in the whole LGBTQ scheme, to be candid, Asian gay men face a lot of discrimination within the community, the reality is that Asian gay men are usually at the very bottom of the pyramid of what the "'Gays see as 'alluring'", gay Asian men face a lot of discrimination in America.

 

[sadboynthn]

So dont pretend like you care about everyone when in reality you care about you and your own race.

Since you wanna project

 

[nivora]

Wow ppl got so carried away by him just sharing queer movies that he likes jajaja, so if we dont like a black queer movie am I racist? Lets be honest, Moonlight was beautiful but boring so yeah I dont like it.

Also i think even Asian people are giving the same amount of racism that any other minority, maybe other minorities dont see it is because they dont live it. I remember a few years ago, everyone calling "Chinese" to any asian ppl cuz it was easier to learn other groups of Asian countries.

And as always we only care when we are targeted, I remember distinctly when BLM was at its pick, everyone was marching, sharing content blah blah, but when in the US the attacks towards Asian Americans was so bad, I rarely saw any support from black ppl, latin ppl, POC in general. So dont pretend like you care about everyone when in reality you care about you and your own race.

nobody called him racist, just pointed out the lack of diversity and how bad his own response making it actual suspicious, it reminds me about current kpoop taking a LOT from black (american) culture and then getting embroiled into racist scandals anyway
i don't anyone here wants to discredit your experiences as an asian individual, but quite frankly most people here are a minority in their own right just by virtue of being gay/queer making this entire convo more nuanced imo

 

[dichpig]

People in the comments DID actually EXPLICITYLY labeled him as racist for simply not being aware of gay cinema from all across the world.

All of these drama queens who are so quick to label other people racist, I doubt many of you would be able to name a SINGLE gay asian movie without googling it. So I guess by your own standard you too are RACIST.

Stop weaponizing racism to shut down other people's opinions. The hypocrisy in the comments is laughable.

 

[sadboynthn]

People in the comments DID actually EXPLICITYLY labeled him as racist for simply not being aware of gay cinema from all across the world.

All of these drama queens who are so quick to label other people racist, I doubt many of you would be able to name a SINGLE gay asian movie without googling it. So I guess by your own standard you too are RACIST.

Stop weaponizing racism to shut down other people's opinions. The hypocrisy in the comments is laughable.

Girl, go to the comments section with this. We ain’t them

 

[hookuphotti]

That whole situation kind of rubbed me the wrong way. He’s a queer POC influencer and handled that so poorly lol.

 

[bigboaster]

Some people don't feel obligated to be some type of activist just by virtue of their sexuality/race. Not everyone is cut out to be some intersectional mouthpiece or expert just because they are queer and poc. Not all POC want to be grouped in with every other minority group or feel the need to have to speak up for them.

Some influencers are just gonna be vapid and selfish or only care about fashion or music or whatever. That isn't some shocking breaking news. Ya'll care way too much what is in these people's heads. Aren't we here to get off? Lower your expectations, appreciate the pretty dolls and keep it moving, I say. lol

 

[niwits69]

Some people don't feel obligated to be some type of activist just by virtue of their sexuality/race. Not everyone is cut out to be some intersectional mouthpiece or expert just because they are queer and poc. Not all POC want to be grouped in with every other minority group or feel the need to have to speak up for them. Some influencers are just gonna be vapid and selfish or only care about fashion or music or whatever. That isn't some shocking breaking news. Ya'll care way too much what is in these people's heads. Aren't we here to get off? Appreciate the pretty dolls and keep it moving, I say. lol

It's clear from the way he handled things and his Q&A's that he doesn't care about being an activist/speaking on racism and homophobia. He's just a shallow, self-centered person

 

[hookuphotti]

Some people don't feel obligated to be some type of activist just by virtue of their sexuality/race. Not everyone is cut out to be some intersectional mouthpiece or expert just because they are queer and poc. Not all POC want to be grouped in with every other minority group or feel the need to have to speak up for them.

Some influencers are just gonna be vapid and selfish or only care about fashion or music or whatever. That isn't some shocking breaking news. Ya'll care way too much what is in these people's heads. Aren't we here to get off? Lower your expectations, appreciate the pretty dolls and keep it moving, I say. lol

i agree but you’d think as a brand owner (Edison I mean) he’d think about shit like that. Haha.

 

[bigboaster]

i agree but you’d think as a brand owner (Edison I mean) he’d think about shit like that. Haha.

I would agree his PR skills are god awful and if he isn't gonna care about social issues, like fine I guess but he should at least not draw attention to the whole debate by replying to his followers in a tone deaf way or sharing his DMs with them. lol smh

 

[nivora]

People in the comments DID actually EXPLICITYLY labeled him as racist for simply not being aware of gay cinema from all across the world.

All of these drama queens who are so quick to label other people racist, I doubt many of you would be able to name a SINGLE gay asian movie without googling it. So I guess by your own standard you too are RACIST.

Stop weaponizing racism to shut down other people's opinions. The hypocrisy in the comments is laughable.

dichpig: tries to weapon side anti-asian racism
also dichpig: calls out people weaponising racism

 

[Walking_Zombie]

I mean as someone who lived in China for almost a year, there's plenty of racism towards brown people, especially black people, the Chinese were colonized by lots of western superpowers back in the day, so the Chinese see white people as 'desirable 'prestigious' etc, especially in the dating scene, it's something that we see a lot here in America, where Asians (I'm talking about east Asians btw) either t date Asians or date whites exclusively. Now in the whole LGBTQ scheme, to be candid, Asian gay men face a lot of discrimination within the community, the reality is that Asian gay men are usually at the very bottom of the pyramid of what the "'Gays see as 'alluring'", gay Asian men face a lot of discrimination in America.

True. I don't know if this is still a thing over there but I read that they have an industry in China called "rent a foreigner" jobs where they hire white foreigners or immigrants in China for modeling, advertising, or promotional jobs on the basis of their skin color, because they believe that association with white foreigners signifies prestige, legitimacy, and international status. Literally the only qualification is to just be white.

 

[miserygame]

True. I don't know if this is still a thing over there but I read that they have an industry in China called "rent a foreigner" jobs where they hire white foreigners or immigrants in China for modeling, advertising, or promotional jobs on the basis of their skin color, because they believe that association with white foreigners signifies prestige, legitimacy, and international status. Literally the only qualification is to just be white.

Yeah I do remember seeing that while I was living in China, Russians were very popular over there. I also remember seeing a lot of young Russian girls 'dating' old Chinese businessmen which was, to say the least super disturbing.

 

[dichpig]

dichpig: tries to weapon side anti-asian racism
also dichpig: calls out people weaponising racism

I didn't realize calling out hypocrisy is weaponizing racism

 

[dichpig]

Girl, go to the comments section with this. We ain’t them

Read the comments here. A few did call him racist. What's so abhorrent to me is how freely people accuse others of racism. It just waters down the meaning of the word.