EnglishLads.com – how is this not a scam?

I have subscribed to Englishlads maybe half a dozen times over the last several years. Typically I would wait until several new videos have built up that I'm interested in seeing. Sign up. Watch said videos, and then cancel my subscription & then wait for another collection of videos I'm interested in to build up.

I have always found the actual layout of the site to be very reasonable. The search bar is great. Navigating the site was all very straight forward. The picture quality of the video was very good, and the descriptions of what the videos are were always pretty spot on.

That's just about where the positives end for me. As stated here multiple times. The sign up is definitely excessive (Although I've never been asked to provide a drivers license or photo ID) And the price for a subscription, especially when you consider the amount of new content provided (One video per week now) is exorbitant ($50 AUD)

He has a knack of finding guys I'm interested in, frustratingly, because I'd really like to move on from this site completely. But I have never found him to be a good director. How many times he shoots a scene that would involve the two models performing to be sitting on the hardwood floor, or on barstools was just extraordinary. Who in their right mind would set their scene up like that? So uncomfortable. Put them on a couch, or on a bed. He talks incessantly throughout so many of the scenes I'm interested in watching. The second I hear his voice once the action begins, I'm hitting mute. Do the introduction at the beginning of the video by all means, but the non stop dribble he talks throughout the scene was always very off putting. And personally. Him putting his hands all over these young guys he shoots with I've always found to be a little unsettling. He's not getting any younger, And I think it would be much more appropriate to have someone on hand closer to the performers age that can do these massage/service type scenes with them. Although I'm sure it's partly a cost cutting exercise on his part. Most of the scenes I've found to be quite awkward & a little uncomfortable to watch. Largely due to him. If he sat back & let the models do their thing more I think the scenes would benefit from that greatly.

The drop off in duo scenes over the last 12 months or so has been shocking. I think I counted 1 duo scene in the last 6 months. And only 2 or 3 in the last year. If I was a recurring member, being charged his exorbitant monthly subscription prices, for that quality of output, I'd be furious. He also deletes negative comments on videos (Has done it to me) So I don't think he's at all interested in reading any sort of constructive criticism. 2 scenes per week dropped down to 1, yet his subscription prices didn't seem to reflect him putting out literally half the amount of content that he used to. I also find it ridiculous that you have no idea what scene(s) are upcoming. I think paying members should be made aware of what's upcoming. It could help inform their decision about whether or not to keep paying or not. Most other sites I'm familiar with will show you what their next 3-5 scenes being released are.

I actually stumbled across a model who worked for him up until fairly recently (2022) who was using a chat app to promote his OnlyFans & Twitter. He was really nice & actually chatted with me and answered a few questions I had. He stated that the owner is slowing down & has other businesses he's involved in that he's more interested in & that take up more of his time. I think that is pretty apparent when you go on the site today.

Not being able to download anything. Having no access to most of the site unless you pay more money, and 1 scene per week that could just end up being a solo (not my thing) renders this site almost pointless to me now. I do like seeing what the new scene is each week, but I highly doubt I'll be subscribing at any point in 2024.
 
My questions are (1) how is that legal, (2) why does anyone subscribe, (3) how is the owner, Nick Baker, still not out of business? Also, why isn’t there more outrage online?
(1) Anything in his contracts that goes against UK law would be null and void. But ultimately, it would need to be tested in court. Of course, that implies that your name and interest in this adult website will become part of the public record in the UK court system, which would probably leak more of your data than the owner of EnglishLads ever might.

(2) Because of the hot models and the teasers.

(3) I believe he also has non-adult businesses such as a wine shop, which subsidize his adult websites. And for sure, guys will still subscribe every week without having checked the reviews. The outrage can be found in all the usual places, but you won't find it outside the adult community, as the mainstream isn't known to have sympathy for problems gay men are facing on adult websites; they would just blame the gay man instead.

Or is the owner actually required to request all this sensitive info as per the U.K. regulation?

No. He's just doing this as a deterrent to unauthorized sharing of his content.
 
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Surely he’s going to drive the site into the ground:

- Going from multiple updates a week to one
- The steep decline in quality lads
- Poor retention, many never go beyond a JO video
- Limits on historic videos
- Having to pay above and beyond for “premium” content
- Only being able to stream these days
- And now the whole being bullied into handing over your personal information to be used in whatever manner that nasty man sees fit

I can’t see it lasting very much longer to be honest.
 
Some of the hottest guys on the internet with the most boring content. The old content is excellent but I have no idea why anyne would subscibe paying that amount of money to see solo j-off vids. The owner is really rude and difficult to deal with. The ID requirement if completely insane.

Personally I find solo j-off content to be the absolute best. I agree with the rest though
I couldn't agree more. Great minds think alike.
Thanks for all the messages above guys! I was seriously thinking of subscribing, but no way now. It's frustrating, as I have been looking for the wank Dominic gave to William Harrison and can't find it anywhere online!! :(

Do we know who of the lads now do porn?

He does it so it's easy to sue you if you spread the content online. Notoriously the case for very many years.

And yet it's easy to find.
A lot of stuff leaked from there, and then got slowly scrubbed from the net over the years.
will you be a saint and ... ?
I second this.
I've found and downloaded at least a hundred videos at boyfriendtv and noodle magazine... who needs a subscription?
If you have anything on Logan Brown, kindly share with me sir, please and thanks.
LOL, uploaded them in a private community

sorry bud, once I upload them, I delete them
But do you have a link to where videos you uploaded can be accessed, and which you're willing to share?
 
Just realised now the blank spaces in my initial post. I'm not sure what happened when I originally posted. Here's the missing bits:
He does it so it's easy to sue you if you spread the content online. Notoriously the case for very many years.
Some of the hottest guys on the internet with the most boring content. The old content is excellent but I have no idea why anyne would subscibe paying that amount of money to see solo j-off vids. The owner is really rude and difficult to deal with. The ID requirement if completely insane.
There were so many hot "scallies" on there. I had a blast during the time (around four-to-five years ago) when a lot of leaked videos from there were floating around. I wish I had saved them permanently at that time, but oh well, its too bad. I didn't forsee.
Thanks for all the messages above guys! I was seriously thinking of subscribing, but no way now. It's frustrating, as I have been looking for the wank Dominic gave to William Harrison and can't find it anywhere online!! :(
I agree with your decision not to subscribe; I never ever did and watched lots of videos that had leaked onto the internet over the years. There was a 44 minute-long video of Logan Brown (this solo clip specifically) that had leaked onto the net a few years ago. I revisited it not too any months ago (it was less than a year ago) and now I can't find it. I'm not that desperate to see it again that I would go through the trouble of subscribing just for that one video (and all the others featuring him) but I will admit it is annoying (albeit inevitable) that it got pulled down.

Do we know who of the lads now do porn?
I was thinking of turning this thread into a sort of "where are they now" mega-thread for ex-Englishlads models.

Glad you have! I'm looking for William Harrison being wanked by Dominic Moore. If you have that one, PLEASE send!
If anyone has anything on Logan Brown, I am interested.
 
I actually stumbled across a model who worked for him up until fairly recently (2022) who was using a chat app to promote his OnlyFans & Twitter. He was really nice & actually chatted with me and answered a few questions I had. He stated that the owner is slowing down & has other businesses he's involved in that he's more interested in & that take up more of his time. I think that is pretty apparent when you go on the site today.
I remember typing years ago on here that EL is one of the best libraries of the history of British porn you could possibly access. From the scally years through gymbros and now the soloists, it's got everything from frosted tips to full-sleeve tattoos...... but if what you've typed is accurate, then it's getting to the end point and might even be mothballed.

It's a damn shame. Some of my favourite porn videos are on there. But all good things come to an end.

I'll second the suggestion above to have a "where are they now" thread.
 
I used to sub many years ago and it was a great website. Their earlier content was great and they launched people like Paddy O'Brien, Darius Ferdinand, Neil Stevens, Dan Borough, Matt Long (now Danny D). It was peak amateur gay porn.

Then the owner became massively greedy and ran the website to the ground, there's literally no reason to sub. The only reason to sub would be a few videos here and there (like the ones with Craig Marks), but mostly historical videos, which you have to shell around £50 and WAIT to be able to stream it.

Like, I can't wait for the owner to sell the website to a company who will change this failing business to a regular sub model.
 
If someone has active subscription, could you please share the videos of ryan kent, preferably 360/480p.
 
They want your ID and documents with adress to allow you on the site. They are crazy.
The website is basically dead and I'm hoping he will sell it to a company at some point who will then make everything available under a normal subscription.

The current model and requirements are essentially illegal and I would not recommend anyone to ever sub.
 
Stupidly stupidly sent the ID as I thought it was an age verification. Has anyone experienced identity theft with them or will I be ok? What should I do now? Or does he just keep hold of it? Needless to say I have cancelled
I don't think that's a concern.

I think he asks for that because the dude is obsessed with DCMA and probably thinks that if he has your ID he can sue you for breach of copyright if you happen to leak his videos. I can tell you it's completly misguided and as I said before, the asking of the ID itself likely breaches GDPR and using that information to sue someone is likely also a breach of GDPR.
 
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I don’t think the site owner is trying to scam or thieve identity.

But he is obsessed with leaks of material.

Actually his requiring ID against future legal action is itself unlawful, and represents a Prima facie breach of English contract law. I think it is unlikely that any judge would allow the action to continue, as he has collected privileged information.

That said, I understand why he is worried about some of his material breaching. It Was really good at one time.

But recently it has declined a lot. I would imagine the performers can do better on OF. I dropped my subscription for that reason.
 
I don’t think the site owner is trying to scam or thieve identity.

But he is obsessed with leaks of material.

Actually his requiring ID against future legal action is itself unlawful, and represents a Prima facie breach of English contract law. I think it is unlikely that any judge would allow the action to continue, as he has collected privileged information.

That said, I understand why he is worried about some of his material breaching. It Was really good at one time.

But recently it has declined a lot. I would imagine the performers can do better on OF. I dropped my subscription for that reason.

Most of the models now come from OF. 10-15 years ago, the whole draw of this site was that these were ordinary guys who weren't porn stars
 
I’m really frustrated because the site has some exclusive vids that you can’t find anywhere else of a few guys I know who have been on it in the past. I just don’t want to give my personal data to this man!!!!

I signed up years ago and had no problem. I signed up last year and he was requesting specific private detail. It’s insane.

Can he sort this out or sell it to someone else who can take over the content and make it easier for us?