How many men are actually bisexual?

++ sexual behavior. Your sexual behavior may or may not align with the other two.
I think thats why guys can enjoy and indulge in MM sex without any drama's or stress.

Ive never had an argument, disagreement or been upset with my fuckbuddy.

If there was one thing, maybe he crosses the boundary lines outside of sex, but thats something thats rare and in fairness to him, Ive encouraged him to do it at times. So no real fault on his part.
 
I think data would be hard to come by; however, I was thinking about the experiences of Swell80 (if you're not familiar you can search for him on the site.) He had lots of sexual experiences with men who would describe themselves as straight. Does that tend to prove that "straight" men will be less "straight" when they are horny, and no one will know?
The data is easy to come by -- some of it has been presented here -- but many do not want to regard the data because it undermines their narratives or fantasies. Once again, if one wants to apply the term "straight" to men who will engage in homosexual sex, then another term should be sought for that which we formerly called "straight." Just understand that employing an expansive meaning of straight men does not expand the population of men who will engage in homosexual sex -- no matter how much certain men wish it.
 
Okay, so what would you call a man who identifies as straight who has engaged in oral sex with another man once but has no interest in doing it again?
Bi curious guy who after experiment realize its not for him.

We are talking about guys who hook up in full blown sex several times yet id as straight.
 
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Bi curious guy who after experiment realize its not for him.

We are talking about guys who hook up in full blown sex several times yet id as straight.
It’s more than who you have sex with that determines orientation. It’s always best to ask no questions when someone says their orientation as we really don’t know.
 
Okay, so what would you call a man who identifies as straight who has engaged in oral sex with another man once but has no interest in doing it again?
Straight. simple. As far as I'm concerned a straight man receiving head from a guy (even regularly) isn't that gay imho. A mouth is a mouth. The str8 guy in this instance doesn't even have to look at the guy If I doesn't want to
 
Okay, so what would you call a man who identifies as straight who has engaged in oral sex with another man once but has no interest in doing it again?
Under that circumstance, I wouldn't call such a man "straight" no matter how he identifies. However, if people insist on changing the traditional meaning of "straight" then a new word needs to be used to describe the majority of men who have not, do not, and never will desire other men sexually. Those men deserve an identity also. By the same token, if we all decided spontaneously to identify as birds, then I suppose we would need to come up with a new word to describe those winged creatures with all the typical ornithological characteristics of that which we used to call "birds."
 
Under that circumstance, I wouldn't call such a man "straight" no matter how he identifies. However, if people insist on changing the traditional meaning of "straight" then a new word needs to be used to describe the majority of men who have not, do not, and never will desire other men sexually. Those men deserve an identity also. By the same token, if we all decided spontaneously to identify as birds, then I suppose we would need to come up with a new word to describe those winged creatures with all the typical ornithological characteristics of that which we used to call "birds."
Who cares those are just labels


A guy can id as straight and be indistinguishable from bisexual guy.
 
Who cares those are just labels


A guy can id as straight and be indistinguishable from bisexual guy.
Loved your post.

I see myself as "straight". I dont care what anyone sees or identifies themselves as, I respect it as it has no bearing on my life.

Even in 2023, for a younger guy like myself there is still a negative society views on bi guys. Its just easier and uncomplicated to keep this part of my life private.

Why should miss out on good sex with my fuckbuddy? We meet up only about once a month and have a lot of fun, enjoyment and pleasure. Its simple, convenient and drama free. He gets his outlet from me, I get the opportunity to enjoy being an outlet. So its mutually satisfying.

I view MM sex as a sexual fetish, its purely just a physical enjoyment. I have never had romantic feelings for a guy, nor do I check guys out or attracted to them.

I have nothing to gain by being open about it, but I have a lot to lose if I do.

So why would I add a layer of complexity to my life?
 
Okay, so what would you call a man who identifies as straight who has engaged in oral sex with another man once but has no interest in doing it again?
It's difficult to know for certain. He could be heterosexual or bisexual. It depends on whether or not he has an attraction to men, which only the man in question would know.
 
Who cares those are just labels


A guy can id as straight and be indistinguishable from bisexual guy.
Labels matter because they are words that convey how we identify ourselves. Whereas words often change meaning over time, one's identity may not. Changing the traditional meaning of "straight" to include men who are attracted to other men sexually, whether or not they act on that attraction, ignores the identity of those men who simply are not attracted to other men. A "guy can id" as straight but that does not make him straight any more than I am a bird. It only makes a mockery of the word's traditional meaning, deluding ourselves about the great majority of men who are straight, and will always be straight, in its traditional sense. I would rather face reality with the clarity of labels and their meaning.
 
Labels matter because they are words that convey how we identify ourselves. Whereas words often change meaning over time, one's identity may not. Changing the traditional meaning of "straight" to include men who are attracted to other men sexually, whether or not they act on that attraction, ignores the identity of those men who simply are not attracted to other men. A "guy can id" as straight but that does not make him straight any more than I am a bird. It only makes a mockery of the word's traditional meaning, deluding ourselves about the great majority of men who are straight, and will always be straight, in its traditional sense. I would rather face reality with the clarity of labels and their meaning.
I hear you but it doesn't matter at the end of the day.
Guy X can in reality be bisexual because he JO to gay porn, lust after guys, have sex with them but identify as straight for reasons like:
-misunderstanding of sexual vs romantic attraction a'ka "I like gay sex but I am straight because I don't fall in love with men/date them.
-denial " It's not a big deal, everyone has those thoughts" "hole is hole".
-don't want to be associated with "community" either because of religious reasons, masculinity (I am not one of those limp wristed effeminate queers)...

And many other reasons

Is such a guy straight? Of course not- reality doesn't care about identity; identity has to match reality not the other way around.

So if a guy insist he is straight despite having dick in his ass and mouth you just roll your eyes and move on.
 
Seen on many hookup profiles: "Mostly straight". Works for me.
A little story about the term...
"Somewhat gay" also works to describe the same but you don't hear it used because it doesn't feed into the fantastic delusion that virtually all men are just one nice butt away from playing on the same team.
 
"Somewhat gay" also works to describe the same but you don't hear it used because it doesn't feed into the fantastic delusion that virtually all men are just one nice butt away from playing on the same team.
I would defer it to perhaps percentages? It's rare to find a true 50-50 guy like yourself. Most of us (from what I see here anyway) tend to be the majority straight. To be honest my bi side is mainly thru porn and online interactions. I've have had some failed meetups, but still hold hope. ;)
 
The data is based on self-reporting. You guys are literally arguing about all the dudes who engage in MM activities but say they are straight in this very thread.

The self-reported bisexuality data for men will obviously be lower than the number of men who have engaged in MM sex or would potentially be open to it.
Which makes my somewhat derisive original point: According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 4.4% of Americans identify as bisexual and 88.3% identify as straight. According to Americans who identify as bisexual, 100% of Americans who identify as straight are liars.
 
Seen on many hookup profiles: "Mostly straight". Works for me.
A little story about the term...

I would defer it to perhaps percentages? It's rare to find a true 50-50 guy like yourself. Most of us (from what I see here anyway) tend to be the majority straight. To be honest my bi side is mainly thru porn and online interactions. I've have had some failed meetups, but still hold hope. ;)
I think the mostly straight applies to a lot of bi guys in here from what I have seen.

For me at least, once a month I get the pleasure to enjoy in MM sex. Outside of this time, I dont think about wishing I was with my fuckbuddy or any other guy for that matter, nor do I have any romantic or emotional connection aside from purely a physical one.

If anything I think thats why my fuckbuddy and I have been together for a few years. Its easy, simple, convenenient and without drama's or issues. In fact we have never had an argument or disagreement. We enjoy hooking up, he messages me, I reply almost 99.9% of the times yes, we meet, we fuck, than we go our seperate ways till the next opportunity. Sure there has been times where I have stayed the night and even recently a few weeks at his place.

Even during those times, we do our own thing when I am at his place. He works and if Im not working Im on the computer and or chilling and watching Netflix. When he is in the mood, he will let me know and we may have sex during the day and most often during the night before going to sleep. We are both happy and comfortable with the arrangement and neither of us feel used or taken advantge of.
 
Okay, if that's the easy to come by data we're going with, than all those guys who identify as straight but engage/have engaged in MM activities are excluded from the figure.

But you claim these guys are not really straight. Thus that US census data, according to you, doesn't answer the question "How many men are actually bisexual?" at all.

Whoops.

The very nature of the question means that survey data can't be used. I think we can all agree, however that whatever the self-reported data for men is, the real number is higher. IMO the real number for women is actually lower than self-reported due to the endless number of girls who go out of the way to say they're "bisexual" but never seem to be dating/hooking up with any women...

Shockingly, people respond to incentives. Identifying as a bisexual man has no/very niche upside in terms of real world incentives. It's the opposite for women.
That's only because you assume many more "straight" guys secretly yearn for homosexual contact. I think that's a fantasy but I understand the need for so many to cling to it.
 
That's only because you assume many more "straight" guys secretly yearn for homosexual contact. I think that's a fantasy but I understand the need for so many to cling to it.
A so called straight guy doesn’t have to yearn for homosexual contact to possibly be bi. He may find it much more arousing to watch straight porn where the men have large penises. That doesn’t mean he’s craving a cock in his mouth. Just that something about well hung men turn him on more. I considered myself straight for most of my life. I was never physically or romantically attracted to men but yet my wife and I liked to watch porn with multiple men with big dicks. But when I got an opportunity to play with a real cock, I loved it and realized that I was bi. I still don’t get romantically or physically attracted to men but I define myself as bi. There are plenty of guys here that would still consider themselves straight.

And here in lies the problem with figuring out who is truly straight, gay, or bi. What’s the definition? Everyone has a different one.