I wanted an unfiltered glimpse into the male sexual psyche...

[huguest]

You must not have read everything I've written in this thread. Once again, I am a millennial (somewhere between 27 and 42 years old) and I am not attracted to men. I am (romantically) attracted to women only. I briefly (average ~3 months) dated men in the past, and the experiences were unpleasant for several reasons. The biggest reason, of course, was that I was obviously going against who I am.

However, regardless of that detail, those few, very brief experiences, coupled with the multitude of anecdotes I've heard from other women (of all ages) led me to conclude that most men seem to "tolerate" women in relationships just for convenient access to sex. It then made me wonder why men even bother to get into committed relationships with women at all when broken down to the basics, that's all they really want; sex, food, hobbies, and silence. That's it. Hence, "the research."

Oh, right I lost track at some point.

Look, our discussion is turning around. You made your mind, I'm not saying your off track by far. Every stage of growing up is different. Your describing a young men fresh from adulthood. Your description doesn't match with most educated grown up men. If your interest is in "why men even bother to get into committed relationships". Why not just ask?

I invite you to go in the straight section and simply ask : why are you with your girlfriend?

The response may surprise you. It would for certain beat the hell out of just stipulating on bad behavior.

Anyway. I'm done here, good luck with your research, I hope it's bring you peace.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

@aheidla I find you intriguing. You've opened my mind a bit more than it was before.

That's what I like about this place. As .... Uh.... Fucked as it is (take that as you will, my view is mine and yours is yours reader) I keep finding new points of view that check my own and grow me as a people.

I'm less ignorant because of my time here. Thanks to individuals like yourself. Cheers.

 

[deleted19151801]

@Tight_N_Juicy Thank you. Although I'm not really trying to be intriguing, I suppose it's nice to imagine something profound actually spawned from my off-the-wall shower thoughts.

After all, this thread mostly started as a joke to laugh (uncomfortably) at some of the material I randomly discovered, here.

 

[seventiesdemon]

@Tight_N_Juicy Thank you. Although I'm not really trying to be intriguing, I suppose it's nice to imagine something profound actually spawned from my off-the-wall shower thoughts.

After all, this thread mostly started as a joke to laugh (uncomfortably) at some of the material I randomly discovered, here.

This whole place started as a joke

 

[sodominsane]

@huguest

you state the “ fact “ that women have a lower sex drive than men…. Therefore it’s ok to cheat

move never seen a study, but anecdotally
I am not sure how true it is.

I have a few girlfriends and a shit tone of female friends…. Some in relationships, some not. And most are quite interested in sex

and so many complain about the” coolage effect” in their relationship and lack of sec on the guys part

and look at book women read vs dudes

my women friends love those romance novels , which are basically sex sex and more sex…. Now not every ladies cup of tea… they sell like hotcakes so someone is buying them

dudes book ( or at least mine) … booos about nuclear subs, ww1 tactics and how to get more horsepower out of my baracuda

also lots of guys just don’t make the emotional effort or spark flare anymore

Could tell you how many times I’ve seen a guy cheat , due to her flagging sex drive, get caught, divorced and subsequently ass raped in court (funny thing how most women folks denigh this happens and when @aheidla brings this up , you kinda refuse to believe it…I guess divorce laws work differently for you and only you)

so after the divorce this lady with the “ flaghing “sex drive is out in the dating pool and riding a cock before the ink dries

so from my experience the whole women don’t like sex is not true and more likely

women don’t like sex with dull dudes

just my take

 

[sodominsane]

Cheating is the result of being a complete piece of shit.

Ah t and j

one of my oldest and best friends in this site

haven’t been here in forever

Looks like your still sexy yet aggressive

the honey badger of lpsg

However you know me … we always give it to each other straight

You know how they catch cheaters in Vegas…. They look for who is winnning

sports… who using steroids… look who’s winning ( lance Armstrong, Barry bonds , Marion jones …, that list goes on forever

life…. Hmmmm
Funny how Nancy pelosi can outperform everyone of Wall Street pros in the investment game….hmmm insider trading….na

trump …. No way that dunce made money on his brain power

Who’s cheating

same as Vegas…. Who’s winning

me…… I’ve worked my way up from dirt poor ( when I say dirt poor I mean , never had a pair of new pants till I joined the army, mad fun of for homemade haircut, school lunch and kind teachers were main nutrition source )

now I’m a retired at 45, extremely comfortable, ex doctor

that being said what I had to do to get there…. Lie cheat and steal…

unfortunate but true… in this piece of shit capitalist system it’s the only way to do it ( at least on some level)


So I have cheated many times on my relationships, but I won’t suger coat it and try to blame my partners so I can unburden the guilt.

I did it to get what i want

am I a piece of shit ?

most definitely… but I own it



HOWEVER I never cheat now…. It’s to much work… and getting caught is a bitch

Now I just tell everyone upfront, I’m not monogamous, I don’t believe that people should control people

“I don’t want to be controlled, I won’t control you “

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Ah t and j

one of my oldest and best friends in this site

haven’t been here in forever

Looks like your still sexy yet aggressive

the honey badger of lpsg

However you know me … we always give it to each other straight

You know how they catch cheaters in Vegas…. They look for who is winnning

sports… who using steroids… look who’s winning ( lance Armstrong, Barry bonds , Marion jones …, that list goes on forever

life…. Hmmmm
Funny how Nancy pelosi can outperform everyone of Wall Street pros in the investment game….hmmm insider trading….na

trump …. No way that dunce made money on his brain power

Who’s cheating

same as Vegas…. Who’s winning

me…… I’ve worked my way up from dirt poor ( when I say dirt poor I mean , never had a pair of new pants till I joined the army, mad fun of for homemade haircut, school lunch and kind teachers were main nutrition source )

now I’m a retired at 45, extremely comfortable, ex doctor

that being said what I had to do to get there…. Lie cheat and steal…

unfortunate but true… in this piece of shit capitalist system it’s the only way to do it ( at least on some level)


So I have cheated many times on my relationships, but I won’t suger coat it and try to blame my partners so I can unburden the guilt.

I did it to get what i want

am I a piece of shit ?

most definitely… but I own it



HOWEVER I never cheat now…. It’s to much work… and getting caught is a bitch

Now I just tell everyone upfront, I’m not monogamous, I don’t believe that people should control people

“I don’t want to be controlled, I won’t control you “

I missed you.

Humans are shit. Those of us who know it, acknowledge it and do our best to use it to help others are less shitty.

#istillwishiwasabonobo

This is one of several reasons we've decided to be in the relationship we're in. Sex isn't cheating as long as there's no lying and health is the priority above pleasure we're good.

You and him would likely have a god-damned fucking blast together.

By the way, for those reading who don't know... He cheated on me. When he was a piece of shit that I loved. He apologized. I forgave him before he did. People can and do change. Not often, but learning is one of the things a don't mind about being a fucking ape. We can learn. *Can*.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

@Tight_N_Juicy Thank you. Although I'm not really trying to be intriguing, I suppose it's nice to imagine something profound actually spawned from my off-the-wall shower thoughts.

After all, this thread mostly started as a joke to laugh (uncomfortably) at some of the material I randomly discovered, here.

That's what opens my mind. Fires my synapses. I can tell you're not seeking gratification from this place.

It's not just this thread that brought me to say that either. I remember our first exchange. It made me think, rather than react. Sometimes I need that.

 

[Drifterwood]

Do you think a man ever loved you?

 

[deleted19151801]

Do you think a man ever loved you?

To whom are you directing this question?

 

[Drifterwood]

To whom are you directing this question?

Well, I thought it was good to go as an open question for anyone and everyone, but it did come to mind following your recent comments, which by the way, I agree with tnj, are interesting.

 

[deleted19151801]

Well, I thought it was good to go as an open question for anyone and everyone, but it did come to mind following your recent comments, which by the way, I agree with tnj, are interesting.

I see. Well, I'm not in a position to answer the question. So, I'll let other women answer.

 

[WilliamG]

@aheidla I've been following this thread about your experiences here. So I went back to your original post. I do that then when I want to refresh the context of the discussion. In that post there was not a mention of your preference for other women romantically.

It was not until post #101 where I/we saw the, "God, have I never been more grateful to not be sexually attracted to men. I feel sorry for straight women sometimes. And I mean that sincerely."

That comment may have put your thoughts more in context to those debating this topic who did not read into that. Does it change the fact of what you found by joining this group? No. Men can be rude, indifferent, and selfish (trust me, as one... I know). I often say the reason I like the profile "sexuality percentage" is it can add some context to ones sexual views. Maybe it's over simplified. And some I'm sure find it invasive or not relevant. But it can add some context.

I do find your comment about getting cats to be on the mark... I have 7 ferals that I feed... They are better than most humans!

 

[Drifterwood]

I see. Well, I'm not in a position to answer the question. So, I'll let other women answer.

You referenced one of your exes on page one. Why would you not be qualified to have an opinion on their feelings for you?

 

[deleted19151801]

You referenced one of your exes on page one. Why would you not be qualified to have an opinion on their feelings for you?

Because the few "relationships" I've had with men all only lasted for barely a month (not exaggerating). The one I was referencing on page one lasted for exactly 4 weeks (on the nose) before I called him and ended it. I have never had a long-term relationship with a man. Therefore, the answer is 'no' by default because there wasn't enough time for them to get to that point.

The most that I can say to your inquiry is that it is highly unlikely that they ever would've gotten to that point in the first place if the relationship actually continued without me peacing out almost immediately. That's the best answer to your question that I can muster.

 

[PsyPro]

All of my conclusions have been drawn from the words, thoughts, and opinions of nearly thousands of men themselves. It's all from the horse's mouth. I had a hypothesis and looked to men for answers about men. This isn't about arguing. This is about me learning about men from men. Any disagreements regarding my conclusions should honestly be taken up with the men who exist in the well from which I siphoned my information.

I've found your posts interesting and insightful (although some have taken them as inciteful)...

I'm sorry if I missed it, but could you state your hypothesis?

 

[deleted19151801]

could you state your hypothesis?

Most men are incapable of romantically loving someone without sex, but they are capable of engaging in sex with someone without romantically loving them.

 

[Drifterwood]

Most men are incapable of romantically loving someone without sex, but they are capable of engaging in sex with someone without romantically loving them.

You can ditch the second part because we’re all capable of this irrespective of gender, sex or orientation.

This leaves us with a discussion on unrequited romantic love and whether it’s existence in men is a falsehood, even though you offer no ability to have any experience based opinion. This can’t be an empirical observation either, because the world seems full of apparent unrequited love either by choice or not, by religion, culture or not.

An opinion based neither on personal experience nor rational observation would seem to be a good definition of a prejudice.

 

[sodominsane]

Most men are incapable of romantically loving someone without sex, but they are capable of engaging in sex with someone without romantically loving them.

Not sure if that’s true, or at least it is cultural and not innate , in the Middle Ages “ courtly love” was all the rage through out Europe, getting the idea from Muslims during the crusades…. “Oh but to love her from afar”

and look at all the Jack asses today who get catfished by some hottie on line from Eastern Europe ( 90 day fiancé , anyone)

or that manto teo dude….. he was I love without sex

 

[sodominsane]

I missed you.

Humans are shit. Those of us who know it, acknowledge it and do our best to use it to help others are less shitty.

#istillwishiwasabonobo

This is one of several reasons we've decided to be in the relationship we're in. Sex isn't cheating as long as there's no lying and health is the priority above pleasure we're good.

You and him would likely have a god-damned fucking blast together.

By the way, for those reading who don't know... He cheated on me. When he was a piece of shit that I loved. He apologized. I forgave him before he did. People can and do change. Not often, but learning is one of the things a don't mind about being a fucking ape. We can learn. *Can*.

While I admit I am being a bit of a contrarian here

yes human suck…..BUT they are capable of great wonders and kindness.

from a small thing like a store clerk buying my coffee when I forget my wallet , to large acts of kindness …. Even altruistic sacrifice of life. Happens so often we don’t even think about it. (For some reason we tend to remember the negative)

Hell human kindness has been going on for thousand’s of years….. in 2007 they found a skeleton of an ancient human I. A cave…. He had severe and crippling injuries…. But the injuries were ten years old….., even in cave times , limited resources….someone carted him around ,fed, and protected him for 10 years