Is Onlyfans Dying?

[Czeckboys2024]

I find it all so boring now. Its mechanical and boring...

 

[Just Hanging Out]

I think we are looking a this matter from different perspectives.
What you write makes sense for new creators who aren’t big influencers.
I was thinking more about creators who already have a sizable following on social media who only need to lead a small portion of their social followers to Onlyfans to create large income.

There are many examples of guys who wouldn’t do traditional porn by end up creating explicit stuff. One example is mrmuscle who now does full sex scenes like a traditional porn star. But he started out with faceless photos showing parts of his soft dick, then faceless stuff showing his soft cock, then faceless stuff showing his hard cock and fully explicit stuff showing his face. This transition took like 3 years and all the while he was able to milk his thirsty fans by giving them more and making him a millionaire even before showing fully explicit stuff with his face. This wouldn’t have been possible with traditional porn, where you either do a solo or sex video or don’t associate yourself with a porn company at all. Another possibility that Onlyfans allows to make big money is showing your best stuff only as PTV content. This is exactly what e. g. Parker Egerton does. He shows nothing explicit on his wall but via PTV content there are jerk off videos and sex tapes available for around 100 dollars per customer. And you can even make millions by showing nothing explicit at all, even in PTV content, like Harry Jowsey, who claims to have make over 3 million dollars on Onlyfans.

Overall Onlyfans can be very lucrative for people who already have a large following from another platform. They can milk their fans on their journey of creating more and more daring content, ’showing a more private side’ etc. while some of them never show explicit content. This is the reason why Dani Garcia, Arne vdW, Nate K. Weir, Richard Heinze, Pietro Boselli transitioned to Onlyfans this year. (Or do we think we are going to see Pietro jerking off on Onkyfans, lmao?) I am not saying these guys are hotter than the college guys who needed a quick buck on from the 2000’sl But those college guys were anonymous and often only did it only once. By contrast, the social media influencers on Onlyfans associate their name/fame with their new career path and that’ a driving force in normalizing work in adult content creation.

I think that most of the “social media influencers” who shoot onlyfans are the same type of people from the 2000’s who did traditional porn. I mean at the end of the day they are just young guys who want to make some money without actually working. And I feel like for most consumers they don’t care if a guy has a social media following or not, as long as they’re straight and hot we’ll spend money lol.

The thing is that Onlyfans is no longer as “revolutionary” as I guess it once was. It’s essentially just a modern day Adult Video Store that sells different pornos from different companies, but in this case it’s agencies not porno companies. However I think Onlyfans will fail because they charge an insane amount more than what the Adult Video Stores charge, and provide a worse product.

Another website I’m sure will take onlyfans place because it’s ran terribly. They allow agencies to run as oligopolies by buying up as many pages as they can and charging an insane amount for the videos. It sucks for us the consumers because it’s sooooo difficult to find new creators who don’t use agencies and charge a decent price. This helps the oligopolies (agencies) block competition and keep their prices high.

Onlyfans needs to stop this or they’re going to end up getting eventually replaced by another, better website. As a consumer I know myself and a lot of other people are fed up. It’s really just a matter of time before a change comes. But it sucks because we’re in the waiting period rn for either Onlyfans to change and get better or another successful competitor to come in the market.

 

[dickhungryboy]

people survived before onlyfans even existed. it's ok, we'll be fine too

 

[lesshake]

This is how photographer Jade Young put it:
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I take issue with the idea that a market flooded with low quality content is a golden age and not specifically how crashes happen.

 

[ueberhau]

I think that most of the “social media influencers” who shoot onlyfans are the same type of people from the 2000’s who did traditional porn. I mean at the end of the day they are just young guys who want to make some money without actually working. And I feel like for most consumers they don’t care if a guy has a social media following or not, as long as they’re straight and hot we’ll spend money lol.

The thing is that Onlyfans is no longer as “revolutionary” as I guess it once was. It’s essentially just a modern day Adult Video Store that sells different pornos from different companies, but in this case it’s agencies not porno companies. However I think Onlyfans will fail because they charge an insane amount more than what the Adult Video Stores charge, and provide a worse product.

Another website I’m sure will take onlyfans place because it’s ran terribly. They allow agencies to run as oligopolies by buying up as many pages as they can and charging an insane amount for the videos. It sucks for us the consumers because it’s sooooo difficult to find new creators who don’t use agencies and charge a decent price. This helps the oligopolies (agencies) block competition and keep their prices high.

Onlyfans needs to stop this or they’re going to end up getting eventually replaced by another, better website. As a consumer I know myself and a lot of other people are fed up. It’s really just a matter of time before a change comes. But it sucks because we’re in the waiting period rn for either Onlyfans to change and get better or another successful competitor to come in the market.

I think Onlyfans also fulfills an emotional need for many people and more so than traditional porn. That‘s why these agency sends messages like ”What‘s your name?”, “What are you doing right know?” “Any plans for tonight?”, “Why aren’t you answering my messages?” etc. Sexting is often a big part of the sales on Onlyfans. OnlyFans model becomes millionaire just from 'sexting'
And I think seeing people, who you know from somewhere else, nude has always been a big and lucrative thrill. That’s why many magazines tried to convince celebrities to do sexy layouts for them because it fulfills the desire of stripping someone who you have known for a while.

I pretty much agree with your other points. The management of Onlyfans doesn’t seem great. They made a big mistake by announcing a ban of porn content only to retract it shortly after. They made DRM the default setting but had to abolish it after the backlash, I think. But the matter of fact is that there has been numerous competitor already (justforfans, fansly, mymfans, privacy, arsmate, fansvue etc.) but none came close to the success of Onlyfans.

It seem like the demand for porn as well as loneliness is only increasing. And at the same time, shame and the social stigma of porn has greatly decreased. Traditional porn studios like Sean Cody seem to have a hard time if we look at the number of new scenes and new performers. It’s exciting to see where we go from here.

 

[ueberhau]

I take issue with the idea that a market flooded with low quality content is a golden age and not specifically how crashes happen.

I can totally understand your viewpoint but I think this is also a matter of taste and personal opinion.

We will probably never get the same kind of quality like Jim French‘s work for Colt or the classic porn movies of the 80’s by Falcon again. But that time was many, many years ago with much more privacy for the performers and much narrower distribution channels. Society and the market have changed.

Some people might consider the 2010s, when ‘amateur‘ sites like Sean Cody, Corbin Fisher or BrokeStraightBoys dominated the market, a golden age. We had an endless, daily influx of young, horny jocks that would jerk off and fuck for a flat-rate price of 30 dollars per month. This was a revolution back then and now already long time gone. But what they delivered was mass production with much less artistic value than Colt‘s or Falcon’s classic works.

And now we have the age of social media and influencers, when more people than ever get their share of fame, and now there all the platforms for self promotion and self marketing available.

 

[Filthy Boi Casual]

it reached its peak a while ago I think, its been on a slow decline for a while now - the DRM stuff is great for creators but it'll start pushing buyers away, also I think creators on the site have a general bad attitude / culture and approach, tons of guys are scammers and or misrepresent what they post / make they have a really big fraud issue as things stand and OF basically lets them get away with it

The business model that it was when it first started where most stuff was on the page and you paid a flat sub per month to access it was fine but now tons of people do a paid page + all content is then behind a paywall, so you have to pay for the further privilege of then paying for content is completely farcical

There will always be people who are willing to shove cash at creators but at some point OF is going to have to reign in creators and better balance the site if they want it to have broad appeal

They also need to ban management agencies and get it back to being closer to an actual fan / creator relationship, the management companies are destroying the site

 

[gilgamesh52]

I take issue with the idea that a market flooded with low quality content is a golden age and not specifically how crashes happen.

That’s usually the narrative that the hidden players promulgate to extract as much as possible from that market before it flatlines - that there is no bubble.

 

[Turjun]

I agree. I barely open any of the messages because they are all spam.

Before, I was restricting them to stop their messages. I just learned that you can mute notifications. Just toggle the bell icon just below their name in messages.

 

[Tevin99]

I think that most of the “social media influencers” who shoot onlyfans are the same type of people from the 2000’s who did traditional porn. I mean at the end of the day they are just young guys who want to make some money without actually working. And I feel like for most consumers they don’t care if a guy has a social media following or not, as long as they’re straight and hot we’ll spend money lol.

The thing is that Onlyfans is no longer as “revolutionary” as I guess it once was. It’s essentially just a modern day Adult Video Store that sells different pornos from different companies, but in this case it’s agencies not porno companies. However I think Onlyfans will fail because they charge an insane amount more than what the Adult Video Stores charge, and provide a worse product.

Another website I’m sure will take onlyfans place because it’s ran terribly. They allow agencies to run as oligopolies by buying up as many pages as they can and charging an insane amount for the videos. It sucks for us the consumers because it’s sooooo difficult to find new creators who don’t use agencies and charge a decent price. This helps the oligopolies (agencies) block competition and keep their prices high.

Onlyfans needs to stop this or they’re going to end up getting eventually replaced by another, better website. As a consumer I know myself and a lot of other people are fed up. It’s really just a matter of time before a change comes. But it sucks because we’re in the waiting period rn for either Onlyfans to change and get better or another successful competitor to come in the market.

OnlyFans is just a modern Clips4Sale. Another doesn't need to take its place performers already use JustForFans, ManyVids, and Clips4sale

 

[dickhungryboy]

who would y'all say are the best creators? the ones that feel less... um, boring, i guess

 

[luvbigbuns]

Onlyfans needs to rein in creators charging content in DMs. It should have stayed as a flat rate sub for pages only. Some creators are too cocky (no pun intended) charging $50+ for dick pics or 5 sec clips. That is robbery and preys on people who are desperate.

 

[lesshake]

Onlyfans needs to rein in creators charging content in DMs. It should have stayed as a flat rate sub for pages only. Some creators are too cocky (no pun intended) charging $50+ for dick pics or 5 sec clips. That is robbery and preys on people who are desperate.

There was a member here (I think he has since deleted his account) who was always posting about his relationship troubles with his various internet boyfriends and I know at least some of them were people he was paying for attention on OnlyFans. I wonder how many of the people who get suckered by those prices are people like that.

 

[Just Hanging Out]

OnlyFans is just a modern Clips4Sale. Another doesn't need to take its place performers already use JustForFans, ManyVids, and Clips4sale

None of the alternatives like JustforFans or Fansly ever gained traction. Eventually though in a free market another company is going to replace Onlyfans. I think it’s going to come somewhat quickly because Onlyfans has a lot of lost revenue due to mismanagement. Hopefully Pornhub, Chaturbate or another known company comes out with a similar product to compete.

 

[Aytreg]

I also agree, the DM PPV spam is overwhelming, both in price and frequency. I stopped opening messages from people who do this, and only interact with creators who run their own pages.

Also, why doesn't OF let you browse for new creators by content type/categories? It's hard to find new users without knowing their exact page name.

 

[nadanough]

I also agree, the DM PPV spam is overwhelming, both in price and frequency. I stopped opening messages from people who do this, and only interact with creators who run their own pages.

Also, why doesn't OF let you browse for new creators by content type/categories? It's hard to find new users without knowing their exact page name.

The amount of creators that actually run their page is dwindling by the day lol I kept getting DM's from when I tried a month sub to Peachy_D. I got fed up and called them out on it asking which agency this was lol I blocked them when they kept insisting that it was him lol

 

[Turjun]

I also agree, the DM PPV spam is overwhelming, both in price and frequency. I stopped opening messages from people who do this, and only interact with creators who run their own pages.

Also, why doesn't OF let you browse for new creators by content type/categories? It's hard to find new users without knowing their exact page name.

Regarding looking for new creators, I find them from Twitter/X. Creators that I follow retweet other creators' posts and from there I check out their Twitter accounts to see if they are interesting. It's not a perfect system. Some of the creators retweet everyone and anyone whether they are similar to themselves or completely different. In those cases, I turn off receiving their reposts.

 

[LAQueer]

I think the criticism that‘s been brought up is really valid as I personally feel overwhelmed with all the massages by the agencies and expenses seem to go up and up. But there’s is one thing that Onlyfans revolutionized: Making it possible to gradually transition from being a social media creator to an adult content creator. Many creators on Onlyfans would have never done traditional porn for a studio but being on Onlyfans allows them to head more and more towards porn on their own terms. By now, doing adult work has become quite a normal thing and it’s largely thanks to Onlyfans.
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In 2024, we still see many creators transition to Onlyfans who had excluded doing it before: Dani Garcia, Arne vdW, Nate K. Weir, Richard Heinze, Pietro Boselli etc. I don’t see the influx of creators slowing down.

I agree 100%. I remember what a big deal it was when Bella Thorne, a professional working actress, joined the platform. Nowadays, any actor in her position joining the site wouldn't even warrant a mention in the national press since it's become so normalized. That isn't to say Onlyfans isn't without its problems, but the concept itself will survive whether or not Onlyfans is still around or not. What differentiates a site like Onlyfans is that it attracts non porn performers and gives customers the opportunity for engagement. Like anything else, those who reward their customers will keep earning thier business, and those who don't will inevitably quit.

 

[ueberhau]

I also agree, the DM PPV spam is overwhelming, both in price and frequency. I stopped opening messages from people who do this, and only interact with creators who run their own pages.

Also, why doesn't OF let you browse for new creators by content type/categories? It's hard to find new users without knowing their exact page name.

I totally agree that the experience on Onlyfans is becoming increasingly overwhelming and exhausting. And it seems like competition for the subscribers’s attention is getting too much, and it’s hard to separate the accounts with great value to those with terrible value.

But I am not sure if banning agencies would be good As some posters claim. With the huge user base that Onlyfans has nowadays there needs to be some kind of automatization. One person behind an account just cannot answer all messages personally in most casesif they have another main job.

And I have noticed that smaller accounts that are not connecting with a popular social media account really struggle as some other posters pointed out. There are guys who look great and have great content but don’t have much success and quit after some time….And I am not sure somebody like mrmuscle would become a millionaire on Onlyfans again if he started today because nowadays muscular bodybuilders on Onlyfans are abundant…

I think Onlyfans eventually should implement a system like Apple‘s app store/Google’s play store….Where there is a clear directory of available channels, where there is the chance to temporarily promote and highlight certain accounts, where there is a rating system to know which accounts are worth it……They have had the “suggestions” system since the beginning but it’s really basic and terrible…if some accounts don’t need the promo through the directory because they are connected to a popular social media account, there should be the option for those to be excluded from the directory…..

 

[Gamin_mal]

Great thread, a lot of interesting points that interestingly point to the old way of pornography lol. Seems like ethical management is needed, like a modern brothel this world… it’s sad because it could’ve been such a revolutionary act for sex workers and they ruined it being vain and exploitative.