Lucas (k-pop Star: Wayv, Nct, Superm)

Yeah, him coming back would a be a death sentence for WayV in the chinese market.
 
Sup3rM is a project that never worked, it's an NC7 plus musically, and nobody remembers it.
W4yV works more on Ch1na because they sing in Chinese. And the public and the government there are brutal with scandals. He won't go back there. That's why I thought that the best opportunity was for me to return in the year-end song where everyone appears, but it wasn't like that.
 
He can just continue to sleep with fans and get them to pay for everything like he's always done :D
 
Sup3rM is a project that never worked, it's an NC7 plus musically, and nobody remembers it.
W4yV works more on Ch1na because they sing in Chinese. And the public and the government there are brutal with scandals. He won't go back there. That's why I thought that the best opportunity was for me to return in the year-end song where everyone appears, but it wasn't like that.
Why are you typing like that…

Also, SuperM was very successful but half of the reason it started was to give members (Baekhyun, Taemin, Kai) more to do while EXO and SHINee members were on enlistment. They were hugely successful with album sales and their tour during that time. Then their members came back, SHINee and EXO had big comebacks (esp SHINee) and then shortly after they enlisted themselves.

People definitely talk about them and remember them a lot.
 
Why are you typing like that…

Also, SuperM was very successful but half of the reason it started was to give members (Baekhyun, Taemin, Kai) more to do while EXO and SHINee members were on enlistment. They were hugely successful with album sales and their tour during that time. Then their members came back, SHINee and EXO had big comebacks (esp SHINee) and then shortly after they enlisted themselves.

People definitely talk about them and remember them a lot.
They sold a lot for the fandoms of each group, it's true they were successful in that. Although it should also be noted that in the kpOp industry, selling 1 million does not mean that 1 million people bought it. It's probably 200,000 or less which increases the numbers by buying a lot.
Likewise, no one is asking for Sup3rM to come back. It was a project that, as it began, ended. Without warning.
And speaking of Luc4s, it will not take place in a practically disintegrated group either
 
Nobody here actually knows anything about his status other than the fact that he is on a hiatus, so there is no point to speculating here. Artists like Chanyeol and Irene were on hiatus for 7-10 months before they returned after their scandals. Lucas has only been gone for 5 months and it would have made no sense for him to have been apart of the projects so soon after his hiatus announcement.
 
Chanyeol and Irene scandals were very different. Furthermore, the way the company handled Lucas' situation was extremely telling vs literally any scandals they have ever faced.

SM tends to twist and lie through any scandal, and with him they straight up made him apologize and then had a pretty damning apology themselves. Notice how for Chanyeol they denied from the start and sued the friend of the ex into oblivion, but never even brought up the actual ex again.

Irene got literally caught on a recording, and SM didnt announce anything until after they met with the stylist. And that case involved a grown adult who herself asked for an apology and got it, so in the end that was resolved in a different manner.

Take for instance Yunho, he was allegedly found in an illegal sex club and allegedly ran away from police, 6 months later SM acts like he has been cleared and done time for Covid violations lmao

They are experts at obfuscating the "truth" and salvaging their idols from literally anything.

So yea we can speculate based on the prior handling of controversies. Furthermore, he was removed from the SuperM Korean Air Music Video, his music parts were rerecorded by Mark and Kai. He was completely wiped out of anything from the Wayv 3rd Anniversary in a very SNSD kind of way with their ex-members.

Anyway, people keep asking for updates but the handling of his case vs literally anyone else has been very different, hence the speculation.
 
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For Chanyeol SM never denied anything; they actually never issued any statement about his matter. They also didn’t sue anyone, Chanyeol is the one who sued the person himself with his own money. His approach was different; he went completely radio silent and did not say anything until he was ready to return.

With Lucas, he can’t go off to the military for 2 years and return like nothing happened. His target audience was China, and C-entertainment is very very very different in several different ways. The blueprint for C-ent is to apologize profusely at the sight of any scandal and take a period of reflection before eventually clearing your name later when legal proceedings have occurred.

Korean Air is a brand deal; they simply re-edited the song and ad during his scandal because from a marketing standpoint that’s the obvious thing to do; it has nothing to do with SM. Also, they didn’t re record the song; all members recorded different parts of the song, and they were able to use unused parts of the other members over Lucas’ parts, but that’s beside the point.

Furthermore, he was not involved in their anniversary activities because he is quite obviously on a hiatus. What sense would it make for him to make is return and overshadow WayV’s anniversary? He will continue to be left out of group activities until they bring him back. However, SM is still selling his merch with him in the center of their promo and it is still selling out:
Regardless, my point was that this pointless speculation from people who don’t actually know anything about the behind the scenes plans of SM Entertainment does not need to be on Large Penis Support Group
 
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And why wouldnt they be selling old merch that includes Lucas? Season Greeting cost a lot, and the old years that include him arent even sold out? idk what point you are trying to make there, you make it seem like they are producing new merch with him attached and then point out how he wasn't included in the newest one at the same time.

Also its a discussion board in an open forum.
 
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And why wouldnt they be selling old merch that includes Lucas? Season Greeting cost a lot, and the old years that include him arent even sold out? idk what point you are trying to make there, you make it seem like they are producing new merch with him attached and then point out how he wasn't included in the newest one at the same time.

Also its a discussion board in an open forum.
It’s a merch re-stock, as in new production of old merch, and his poster was actually the first to sell out so they had to re-stock it again and that’s what you see now.

Not sure what’s not clicking for you about the concept of a -hiatus- but he was very obviously not going to be a part of the newest season’s greetings just a few weeks after he announced he’d be halting all his activities for a period of reflection.

However, the point is if they wanted to “wipe out” his existence entirely as you were suggesting, they wouldn’t have restocked, sold, and restocked AGAIN his merch. It would have been very easy to make it unavailable.
 

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Not sure what’s not clicking for you about the concept of a -hiatus- but he was very obviously not going to be a part of the newest season’s greetings just a few weeks after he announced he’d be halting all his activities for a period of reflection.

lol dude i guess you are one of the crazy stans and i pushed a button. But its funny how you are so up in arms about people having a discussion involving speculation, but you seem to know all about how they just happened to have Mark's rap and Kai's verse ready to go and replace him in the song.
 
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Whomst the fuck cares about all this shit. Keep posting hot photos and shit and take the complaints somewhere else
No one has commented about it (or anything for that matter) on almost 2 weeks…furthermore, before that there has been absolutely no new material to post for months so what exactly are you going on about?