New Measures To Combat Bullying And Unnecessarily Mean Posts On Lpsg

[Ponyhoff]

I'm not sure why this thread even exists...I've reported several instances of bullying and not one of them ever received any response at all...and I still see instances of it every day on this site.

 

[thatguy77]

How

My goal has always been for LPSG to be a sexy, friendly, and enjoyable community. I want everyone to feel welcome here. I want your experience at LPSG to be as positive as possible. Hence, this message to all of you.

There is one part of LPSG that has bothered me since I took over. That is the nastiness shown towards some performers. While this behavior is a very small part of LPSG it can be so nasty it makes all of LPSG look bad. There are some threads and comments that are hard to read. I think this is unfair, unwarranted and something we'd like to change.

Starting today we are going to make LPSG a nicer place.

The first thing we'd like to do is reduce is the number of unnecessarily mean comments.
A mean comment is one that intends, is meant, to hurt someone.

Examples of Unnecessarily Mean Comments....

• They're/You're Ugly
• They're/You're Fat
• They're/You're skinny
• They're/You're dumb

These are just a few examples.
Instead of posting "Mr. LPSG's Ugly" Post "Mr. LPSG's Not My Type".

Better yet, if you don't have anything nice to say don't comment. There seems to be this desire by a few Members to make performers feel worse about themselves. If you are posting to simply try to attack a performer please don't.

How will Unnecessarily Mean Comments be Handled?

First, it is important to remember LPSG works on a reporting system. So as this type of content is reported our team will review it and make a decision.

If the post was made before today it will be edited (to remove the mean part) or deleted.
If the post is made after today....
1st time. The user will receive a friendly reminder from us.
2nd time. The user will receive a warning.
If the user continues this behavior, they may end up being banned, either temporarily or permanently.

Being unnecessarily mean adds no value to a thread or to LPSG; not to mention it indirectly impacts the people who may like that particular performer. Repeated mean comments are a form of bullying towards a performer or person and that isn't acceptable. Users who do this will also be banned from posting in that thread in the future.

CyberBullying
There are two key factors that determine whether someone is bullying someone else or not.
1. The intent to harm
2. Repeated acts of threat or aggressive behavior.
This too will not be allowed on LPSG.

What are some forms of such bullying?
Nasty and humiliating comments
Sharing photos for the sole purpose of ridiculing someone
False information that can be damaging to the person's reputation

We will also not allow
Doxxing.
Trying to out a person.
Threatening to contact their family.
Trying to cancel a person.
Trying to hurt a person's reputation.
Sharing social media photos of someone's family (namely parents).

These are all forms of abuse that we do not want on LPSG.

Anyone making posts with such content that are reported will receive a warning; multiple warnings could lead to a ban. Any user who receives a warning for this may be banned from replying to that thread again in the future.

Please note... We are not asking users to go on a mass reporting crusade. Mass reporting is very disruptive to our moderating team. In general, if you have a few posts to report try to limit it to 5. That allows us to get to the really important reports like illegal content, spam, and harmful links.

Let me assure you this is in no way an attempt to censor you. You can still speak your mind. You are free to say when a performer is not worth the money. You are free to post when you've been scammed. You can talk about being disappointed and underwhelmed by a performer.

We are just asking you to be a little more mindful about the posts you make. The less negativity found on LPSG the more enjoyable it will be for all of us.

My goal is to make LPSG a more enjoyable community for all LPSG Users. I believe these measures will be a huge step in the right direction.

If you have any comments or suggestions regarding this I'm all ears. Thank you for reading and being here!

Thanks to all in advance for your cooperation.
Mr. LPSG and the LPSG Team!

about you implement a thumbs down button. Then when people reply “I’m MY opinion” and then go on and try to make their unwarranted false facts the truth people can smash that button. I see too many posts that disregard the truth or whatever just to appease their own sick fantasy about someone one.

 

[bigboaster]

How

about you implement a thumbs down button. Then when people reply “I’m MY opinion” and then go on and try to make their unwarranted false facts the truth people can smash that button. I see too many posts that disregard the truth or whatever just to appease their own sick fantasy about someone one.

While I agree a lot of weirdos go on with ridiculous claims and replies on here I'm not sure I agree with a thumbs down button (could that even be implemented?)

It would be abused imho

 

[Jtc]

A very passionate response.

I don't need to see the emails you get. It is not our duty to protect these people who post nude pictures of themselves online for money. Don't forget the money part. It is their choice. If they can't hack that some people are going to dislike them, then they shouldn't be doing it in the first place. I feel your response is rather personal and attacking. I am nothing like the person you describe. No one is saying these people DESERVE to be roasted, but they will be by some and that's just how the world works. Why should I feel sorry for these adults making decisions then crying about it after? When you create an echo chamber of only positive feedback, you are babying people. What is with this societal mollycoddling?

I understand that they are all people at the end of the day but they are adults, who make choices and need to take responsibility for their choices, on both sides. I get it. But why is LPSG not be on the side of the people who actually visit and support the site? Why support the performers who are making money out of it all? And a fair amount of money too. I can only imagine that they are threatening lawsuits and it makes you guys nervous.

Absolutely people should be held accountable, but just because something offends one person or a small minority doesn't make that person an enemy. What about the performers who need to be held accountable for putting their content out there? I am going to ignore the personal, indirect attacks towards me questioning my views on racism, homophobia or "civil rights" - that was juvenile.

Your analogy is spot on. If you want to turn this place into a dictatorship or communist state, go for it.

Really… How old are we here? The owner is taking about monitoring some civility and maturity.

If a person say, “I’m not attracted to…” or “I don’t find this person to be good looking” this is what is known as an opinion.

When a person say another is “ugly” etc, that is just mean, nasty, immature, and unnecessary.

If you don’t like it, you can find somewhere else to be mean and nasty.

AND the sole fact that someone in the public eye does not automatically give everyone a pass to be mean…

The LGTBQ community cries out for acceptance and civility… and then come the group of rude, selfish, ignorant gay men to tear down everyone in their path.

“if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.”

 

[aaronvasser123]

"Performers?"

So like I discussed on email recently that I never got proper replies on, this issue is not as black-and-white as you all seem to simplistically think it is. How do you define "bullying" exactly for instance? Is it when you reply in self-defense to an UNPROVOKED bullying email cloaked in fake "politeness" by calling them out on their bullshit, hypocrisy and disrespect? There are some noobs here who act like they own the site and bully others into abiding by "their rules" through careful wordiing that avoids language that would technically not be considered bullying but are clearly intended to offend and bully others into submission, knowing full well that others would react honestly like any normal human being who is subjected to being degraded/humiliated publicly and that is to then use language that would be ironically considered "bullying" by the trigger-happy moderators who may have genuine frustration over the real aggressors and would just dismiss the case as just another "garden variety" offense without reading the full exchange and investigation of the conflict history that may span several threads over a long period of time? (Of course, I understand who wants to do that?! I wouldn't either. Lol)

But aren't passive-aggressive "signatures" or "instructions" to just post porn, click "like" and not to bother with (God forbid it just uses up an inch of digital space!) the simple yet gracious act of saying "THANK YOU" (you're not only NOT supposed to discuss on this discussion forum anymore, you're not to even "waste" precious bytes on expressions of gratitude on people whose generosity you came here solely for, wow!!! WTF are these "people?!" Absolute porn ad-dicks who can't afford it so they feel entitled to be given it for free?) that actually encourages a genuinely friendly and respectful community that makes sure generous members and contributors (of ideas and information also, not just porn) feel appreciated and not disrespected, which would then encourage others in a chain reaction to share instead of constantly being in fear if they might get banned and punished for their good deeds or even (gasp!) defending themselves or their opinions. Happier community, less hot heads, less fights, less micro-managing and policing! See?

When you've just been discussing the topic at hand using proper sentence and paragraph structures and punctuation (remember those ancient days?!) in the mature and civil manner with others in the thread but, because these noobs came here for the obvious sole purpose of just collecting porn for free and not to discuss and exchange information and opinions at all on a MESSAGEBOARD/DISCUSSION FORUM that was originally created for that main purpose, they somehow thought anything longer than "any nude pics or video clips on him?" or "Bump" if you're not posting copyrighted or even private material, you're OFF-TOPIC or actually in violation of the "unspoken rules" they have in mind. So they then feel "entitled" to order you around to move the discussion to PM? [Put yourself in my shoes for a minute and imagine you were discussing the day's topic in class with some classmates calmly and enthusiastically and then this new transferee came in LATE and proceeded to "nicely & politely" ask you all to STFU because he needed to cram for an exam for another class that day. So you exclaimed "WTF!" and then he doubles, triples, quadruples down on it. The teacher then AGREES WITH HIM and suspends you or the whole class just to add more WTFs and insult to wounds.] This is an act that is just as bad if not actually worse than cursing someone out in terms of the utter DISRESPECT for the equal rights of everyone to express themselves and their views. At least the cursers are honest, sincere and aren't disguising their disdain and real intent and they're not denying your own right to curse back or even just speak freely. This form of bullying is worse because it has the intention of DECEIT on top of the main offense not only on its main object of attack but mainly on the managers of the site whom they are actually USING by clever manipulation to then do their bidding for them. You are being controlled but you feel like you're just doing your jobs and the actual agrieved party is "the enemy." It's like a spit in everyone's drinks instead of in their faces. So then you pat yourselves and each other on the back for keeping the community "friendly" and fearful, but none the wiser in seeing the root causes and how rigid rules that do not consider the FULL CONTEXT and NUANCE of the issues and the REAL INTENTIONS of those involved behind their superficial words and actions only manage to create and maintain the APPEARANCE of peace and order while ironically disregarding the very purpose of real peace and order, which is not to foment resentment and fake "politeness" instead of engendering REAL RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER AND THEIR RIGHTS among the community members.

Let's be clear here, Mr. LPSG. With all due respect, those violations you cited are no-brainer, obvious ones that no one sane and rational would disagree with should not be acceptable in any community, so much so that they should go almost without stating. But for most real situations, stuff committed are nowhere near as bad or clear-cut like I just illustrated. At least as far as I am concerned.

This is, of course, apart from the heated arguments that are simply UNAVOIDABLE in any discussion forum and really aren't as much of a big deal as simply scrolling past them when they don't concern or interest you. Show me a "democratic" forum or system where everyone just agreed in perfect harmony and I'll show you that it's actually China or even North Korea, which would only be okay if you're into propaganda and not into providing freedom for the citizens. The bitching about bitching about bitching is actually not only unhelpful, hypocritical, tone-deaf and funny, they're also adding fuel to the fire that they claim to hate ever so dramatically because they believe in their "perfection" as if they lived in North Korea themselves and really believed it was paradise when they were just involved in some fight over dumb stuff recently. But there, they can add another pat on their own back, if that makes them feel better for a minute.

Do you have a TLDR version? Some of us are busy

 

[JaygoM]

Great idea

My goal has always been for LPSG to be a sexy, friendly, and enjoyable community. I want everyone to feel welcome here. I want your experience at LPSG to be as positive as possible. Hence, this message to all of you.

There is one part of LPSG that has bothered me since I took over. That is the nastiness shown towards some performers. While this behavior is a very small part of LPSG it can be so nasty it makes all of LPSG look bad. There are some threads and comments that are hard to read. I think this is unfair, unwarranted and something we'd like to change.

Starting today we are going to make LPSG a nicer place.

The first thing we'd like to do is reduce is the number of unnecessarily mean comments.
A mean comment is one that intends, is meant, to hurt someone.

Examples of Unnecessarily Mean Comments....

• They're/You're Ugly
• They're/You're Fat
• They're/You're skinny
• They're/You're dumb

These are just a few examples.
Instead of posting "Mr. LPSG's Ugly" Post "Mr. LPSG's Not My Type".

Better yet, if you don't have anything nice to say don't comment. There seems to be this desire by a few Members to make performers feel worse about themselves. If you are posting to simply try to attack a performer please don't.

How will Unnecessarily Mean Comments be Handled?

First, it is important to remember LPSG works on a reporting system. So as this type of content is reported our team will review it and make a decision.

If the post was made before today it will be edited (to remove the mean part) or deleted.
If the post is made after today....
1st time. The user will receive a friendly reminder from us.
2nd time. The user will receive a warning.
If the user continues this behavior, they may end up being banned, either temporarily or permanently.

Being unnecessarily mean adds no value to a thread or to LPSG; not to mention it indirectly impacts the people who may like that particular performer. Repeated mean comments are a form of bullying towards a performer or person and that isn't acceptable. Users who do this will also be banned from posting in that thread in the future.

CyberBullying
There are two key factors that determine whether someone is bullying someone else or not.
1. The intent to harm
2. Repeated acts of threat or aggressive behavior.
This too will not be allowed on LPSG.

What are some forms of such bullying?
Nasty and humiliating comments
Sharing photos for the sole purpose of ridiculing someone
False information that can be damaging to the person's reputation

We will also not allow
Doxxing.
Trying to out a person.
Threatening to contact their family.
Trying to cancel a person.
Trying to hurt a person's reputation.
Sharing social media photos of someone's family (namely parents).

These are all forms of abuse that we do not want on LPSG.

Anyone making posts with such content that are reported will receive a warning; multiple warnings could lead to a ban. Any user who receives a warning for this may be banned from replying to that thread again in the future.

Please note... We are not asking users to go on a mass reporting crusade. Mass reporting is very disruptive to our moderating team. In general, if you have a few posts to report try to limit it to 5. That allows us to get to the really important reports like illegal content, spam, and harmful links.

Let me assure you this is in no way an attempt to censor you. You can still speak your mind. You are free to say when a performer is not worth the money. You are free to post when you've been scammed. You can talk about being disappointed and underwhelmed by a performer.

We are just asking you to be a little more mindful about the posts you make. The less negativity found on LPSG the more enjoyable it will be for all of us.

My goal is to make LPSG a more enjoyable community for all LPSG Users. I believe these measures will be a huge step in the right direction.

If you have any comments or suggestions regarding this I'm all ears. Thank you for reading and being here!

Thanks to all in advance for your cooperation.
Mr. LPSG and the LPSG Team!

 

[unstr8]

Are there any particular rules or expectations regarding the use of the HAHA reaction?

 

[ginobrouwers]

Ok I just got 20 points for saying a celebrity penis looked small .

while I’m all for removing the abusive comments I just banning comments on penis size is perhaps taking things too far …

 

[LPSG Support]

Ok I just got 20 points for saying a celebrity penis looked small .

while I’m all for removing the abusive comments I just banning comments on penis size is perhaps taking things too far …

If you want to air your dirty laundry in public let's do it.

You wrote
"looks kinda small

but stumpy circumcised dicks are very common in america"

As someone with 17 previous warnings, this deserved a warning.

 

[deleted62800]

I reported multiple posts of one user in one thread basically taking up residence in the post to drag the performer and not only were they rejected but I received a 20 point warning where the moderator used a very hacky way of giving me the report saying it was "flooding the forum". If I have to worry about retaliation for removing posts from a troll then I'm just not even going to bother with the system because that's kinda rediculous.

 

[andre1000]

I reported multiple posts of one user in one thread basically taking up residence in the post to drag the performer and not only were they rejected but I received a 20 point warning where the moderator used a very hacky way of giving me the report saying it was "flooding the forum". If I have to worry about retaliation for removing posts from a troll then I'm just not even going to bother with the system because that's kinda rediculous.

when there's someone flooding a page, the best course of action imo is to report just one of their posts and then in the report write that the user has been spamming the page with the things they're saying. happened the other day where a user on a thread was just making new posts every few minutes, quoting posts and not adding anything else to it. i only reported one of the posts but clarified the page was filled with other posts like that, and then all of the posts were deleted.
the admins probably have tons of reports to go through, and reporting multiple posts from the same person might come off as report bombing. the giving you points part was a bit much, a simple message telling you to only report one post would've sufficed

 

[cam_cam17]

There is a difference between making one comment about a person being ugly and making 15 negative comments about that person. What I have seen is there are some users who try to destroy or cancel out certain performers. Any positive comment they will reply with something negative. Nobody wins when someone does that.

I was going to ask what you mean by "try to cancel" someone?

Because i have noticed several users who try to spread falsehoods or air grievances about certain performers they don't like for whatever reason. They don't necessarily do so in belittling ways, just dishonestly.

And almost always, i get pushback from the thread or moderators about challenging those people, because it's not dick pics. Should I not be addressing that lying on performers is a rule violation?

 

[LPSG Simon]

I was going to ask what you mean by "try to cancel" someone?

Because i have noticed several users who try to spread falsehoods or air grievances about certain performers they don't like for whatever reason. They don't necessarily do so in belittling ways, just dishonestly.

And almost always, i get pushback from the thread or moderators about challenging those people, because it's not dick pics. Should I not be addressing that lying on performers is a rule violation?

Yeah cancelling someone is taking a grievance with them to online forums and platforms and inciting a bandwagon of hate to try and damage them in various ways. That can be their business or their reputation. Even if the grievance is real and valid, it doesn't take much to understand that cancel culture and inciting hundreds or even thousands of people to anonymously drag and harass someone in a cyber bully campaign actually mimics and perpetuates abuse. It's over the top and morally bankrupt. In some cases it's also libellous (see your point about dishonesty), which has real-life legal consequences.

Some people are also just mean-spirited, envious, or have their own issues they try to salve by taking shots at people for sport. Also not a good look for the members or our community. It's like people who go on vacation and treat the resort staff badly just to blow off some steam (gross).

You should be addressing this yes, but there is a point where the reports need to come from the person being discussed, and there is a way to go about this, by maybe making one report instead of several, and pointing out that you are concerned about what is being said, instead of just jumping to say that a rule has been broken.

 

[sexy1234567]

I say this is fantastic! What separates this from MG (outside of active mods and a superior interface) is that there is some form of accountability for a post. People on here are much more civil than MG. MG is a visious cesspool.

 

[andre1000]

I say this is fantastic! What separates this from MG (outside of active mods and a superior interface) is that there is some form of accountability for a post. People on here are much more civil than MG. MG is a visious cesspool.

if you think malegeneral is bad, stay away from datalounge

 

[Ponyhoff]

My goal has always been for LPSG to be a sexy, friendly, and enjoyable community. I want everyone to feel welcome here. I want your experience at LPSG to be as positive as possible. Hence, this message to all of you.

There is one part of LPSG that has bothered me since I took over. That is the nastiness shown towards some performers. While this behavior is a very small part of LPSG it can be so nasty it makes all of LPSG look bad. There are some threads and comments that are hard to read. I think this is unfair, unwarranted and something we'd like to change.

Starting today we are going to make LPSG a nicer place.

The first thing we'd like to do is reduce is the number of unnecessarily mean comments.
A mean comment is one that intends, is meant, to hurt someone.

Examples of Unnecessarily Mean Comments....

• They're/You're Ugly
• They're/You're Fat
• They're/You're skinny
• They're/You're dumb

These are just a few examples.
Instead of posting "Mr. LPSG's Ugly" Post "Mr. LPSG's Not My Type".

Better yet, if you don't have anything nice to say don't comment. There seems to be this desire by a few Members to make performers feel worse about themselves. If you are posting to simply try to attack a performer please don't.

How will Unnecessarily Mean Comments be Handled?

First, it is important to remember LPSG works on a reporting system. So as this type of content is reported our team will review it and make a decision.

If the post was made before today it will be edited (to remove the mean part) or deleted.
If the post is made after today....
1st time. The user will receive a friendly reminder from us.
2nd time. The user will receive a warning.
If the user continues this behavior, they may end up being banned, either temporarily or permanently.

Being unnecessarily mean adds no value to a thread or to LPSG; not to mention it indirectly impacts the people who may like that particular performer. Repeated mean comments are a form of bullying towards a performer or person and that isn't acceptable. Users who do this will also be banned from posting in that thread in the future.

CyberBullying
There are two key factors that determine whether someone is bullying someone else or not.
1. The intent to harm
2. Repeated acts of threat or aggressive behavior.
This too will not be allowed on LPSG.

What are some forms of such bullying?
Nasty and humiliating comments
Sharing photos for the sole purpose of ridiculing someone
False information that can be damaging to the person's reputation

We will also not allow
Doxxing.
Trying to out a person.
Threatening to contact their family.
Trying to cancel a person.
Trying to hurt a person's reputation.
Sharing social media photos of someone's family (namely parents).

These are all forms of abuse that we do not want on LPSG.

Anyone making posts with such content that are reported will receive a warning; multiple warnings could lead to a ban. Any user who receives a warning for this may be banned from replying to that thread again in the future.

Please note... We are not asking users to go on a mass reporting crusade. Mass reporting is very disruptive to our moderating team. In general, if you have a few posts to report try to limit it to 5. That allows us to get to the really important reports like illegal content, spam, and harmful links.

Let me assure you this is in no way an attempt to censor you. You can still speak your mind. You are free to say when a performer is not worth the money. You are free to post when you've been scammed. You can talk about being disappointed and underwhelmed by a performer.

We are just asking you to be a little more mindful about the posts you make. The less negativity found on LPSG the more enjoyable it will be for all of us.

My goal is to make LPSG a more enjoyable community for all LPSG Users. I believe these measures will be a huge step in the right direction.

If you have any comments or suggestions regarding this I'm all ears. Thank you for reading and being here!

Thanks to all in advance for your cooperation.
Mr. LPSG and the LPSG Team!

Sorry to say but I don't think your message is getting through to your moderators. Quite recently I have someone who is being mean and rude and bullying me...I reported it and it had enough weight that one of the person's posts were taken down and another one was modified. I think two posts directed at me should prove that this is an effort directed at me.....the moderator, I guess, didn't agree and denied my request for this bullying to be taken seriously. I mean, what good is this post about what kind of behavior won't be accepted if your moderators aren't going to take it seriously?

 

[LittleDicky]

Sorry to say but I don't think your message is getting through to your moderators. Quite recently I have someone who is being mean and rude and bullying me...I reported it and it had enough weight that one of the person's posts were taken down and another one was modified. I think two posts directed at me should prove that this is an effort directed at me.....the moderator, I guess, didn't agree and denied my request for this bullying to be taken seriously. I mean, what good is this post about what kind of behavior won't be accepted if your moderators aren't going to take it seriously?

My take on this: Some people are VERY RUDE and sarcastic, complaining about images other people post, if said images don't conform to their exact opinion.

In my opinion, people should be taken to task for complaining. If they see something that displeases them, they should just move on. Why make an issue out of it?

If I reply in kind, then I am in danger of a warning or ban. Yes, it's happened to me. Why are the snowflakes allowed to vent, and a reply to them is disallowed? How is that fair?

On the issue of "mean posts," I would say that "mean" is an issue of little girls, not grown men and women.

 

[sexy1234567]

My take on this: Some people are VERY RUDE and sarcastic, complaining about images other people post, if said images don't conform to their exact opinion.

In my opinion, people should be taken to task for complaining. If they see something that displeases them, they should just move on. Why make an issue out of it?

If I reply in kind, then I am in danger of a warning or ban. Yes, it's happened to me. Why are the snowflakes allowed to vent, and a reply to them is disallowed? How is that fair?

On the issue of "mean posts," I would say that "mean" is an issue of little girls, not grown men and women.

The concept can be debated. In practice, there are not enough mods nor hours in the day. A whole lot of caddy, bitchy gays are regulars here and they love their snark (I am no saint in that regard). Some of it has to be expected. It is the direct attacks and venom to individual posters that is the problem.

 

[bigboaster]

My take on this: Some people are VERY RUDE and sarcastic, complaining about images other people post, if said images don't conform to their exact opinion.

In my opinion, people should be taken to task for complaining. If they see something that displeases them, they should just move on. Why make an issue out of it?

If I reply in kind, then I am in danger of a warning or ban. Yes, it's happened to me. Why are the snowflakes allowed to vent, and a reply to them is disallowed? How is that fair?

On the issue of "mean posts," I would say that "mean" is an issue of little girls, not grown men and women.

This could only occur if your respond with visible rudeness or swearing. I've seen plenty of arguments on here with people not getting their replies reported.

You have 2 options. Just don't respond... For one.
Or if you are going to respond. Don't be rude or nasty? Idk what to tell ya beyond that.

But people have the right to complain and remark. It's a forum. It's an exchange of ideas. What they can't do is like kink shame or tell you to shut up, or tell you you straight up can't post something (as long as its on topic) . But they can't be penalised for complaining.

 

[LittleDicky]

This could only occur if your respond with visible rudeness or swearing. I've seen plenty of arguments on here with people not getting their replies reported.

Well, there was one individual who was bullying me and others. It was really annoying. I tried not to respond.

In an unrelated post he revealed some very minor thing about his past. I remarked, "Well, that explains a lot."

That simple remark was reported, deleted, and I was accused of being "mean."

I mean, really? Grow some onions. This "can dish it out, but can't take it" bullshit has to go. Snowflakes are free to fire the first shot, but if you fire back, watch your ass!