That's the one I'm using as well.
But I wouldn't use more then one a day cause of the concentration.
Pygeum overload! (No pun intended!!)
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Fuck I love this thread, longtime lurker first-time poster. Pygeum worked for me big time but killed my wood. Sunflower lecithin also def increases load volume, but I already shoot massive so was more interested in increasing pre.
Current stack:
MOFO by Ancestral Supplements
Zinc glycinate (1/day)
American Ginseng (2/day)
2 brazil nuts/day
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Current stack:
MOFO by Ancestral Supplements
Zinc glycinate (1/day)
American Ginseng (2/day)
2 brazil nuts/day
mestor_vincit
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pretty clear and thick
Pygeum killed my wood also...glad to know I'm not alone.
mestor_vincit
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Beautiful. Can you post pics of all that soaking through your clothes? So damn sexy.
100% for me. Was on it about 6 weeks, saw gains in pre for sure but at the expense of usual rock hard cock. Took it out of stack and back to norm in a few days. Tbh I think I've seen more gains in precum from MOFO plus brazil nuts, and both are better for you anyways. I haven't tried celery seed extract, may add to stack and report back.
mestor_vincit
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being of ingredients derived from animals I suppose i cannot have it shipped in europe. Also celery seeds extract is hard to find at a cheap price. What I can take, spending the right, is saw palmetto, pumpkin seed extract, zync, but I haven't noticed any change,
I’ve also used MOFO and felt an overall increase in horniness and alphaness. I’ve also used the Swanson’s bovine orchic extract with the same result at lower cost. Horny all the time and some increase in precum production. Wanted to nut all the time, multiple times a day.
You shouldn't take saw Palmetto as its affecting the balance of testosterone and dht. It actually makes the prostate smaller (used for Prostata hyperplasia) but also effects the amounts of cum and precum in a negative way ... At least that's what I've read about it.
I mean it was saw Palmetto lowers the conversion from testosterone to dht. Could lead to more hornyness (and potentially more cum) but less precum.
Also you'll miss the other postive effects from dht if you're looking for the
Don't cite me on that as it's already I time ago I read about saw Palmetto and ditched it cause of what I read
I'll look if I can find the texts again
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Here is one: A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial to determine the effectiveness of botanically derived inhibitors of 5-alpha-reductase in the treatment of androgenetic alopecia - PubMed (showing effectiveness of lowering dht)You shouldn't take saw Palmetto as its affecting the balance of testosterone and dht. It actually makes the prostate smaller (used for Prostata hyperplasia) but also effects the amounts of cum and precum in a negative way ... At least that's what I've read about it.
I mean it was saw Palmetto lowers the conversion from testosterone to dht. Could lead to more hornyness (and potentially more cum) but less precum.
Also you'll miss the other postive effects from dht if you're looking for the
Don't cite me on that as it's already I time ago I read about saw Palmetto and ditched it cause of what I read
I'll look if I can find the texts again
(Beta sitosterol is saw Palmetto = active part)
And a second one:
Treatment of Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia by Natural Drugs
Saw Palmetto is a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor (the enzym coverting testosterone in dht)
So if you have a high dht and want to lower it anyways you're fine
best to look dht effects up^^Hope this information helps you
mestor_vincit
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this is one study even randomized, I would read a meta-analyses study to be sure about that.Here is one: A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial to determine the effectiveness of botanically derived inhibitors of 5-alpha-reductase in the treatment of androgenetic alopecia - PubMed (showing effectiveness of lowering dht)
(Beta sitosterol is saw Palmetto = active part)
And a second one:
Treatment of Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia by Natural Drugs
Saw Palmetto is a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor (the enzym coverting testosterone in dht)
So if you have a high dht and want to lower it anyways you're fine
Hope this information helps you
It was a pygeum and saw palmetto combination, so I don't actually know if it was one of them or both. I tried it a couple years ago and noticed it decreased my sex drive. About a month ago I tried again, I took it for about a week and lost my sex drive and I couldn't get hard. I stopped taking it and 3-4 days later things recovered.
mestor_vincit
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with saw palmetto and zync I noted more wetness when I wake up and during daytime.
mestor_vincit
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- b3ar,
I've been using fenugreek but it's more for natural testosterone boosting. I haven't noticed much in the precum area.
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Pill form. 1 300mg tab twice a day
Swanson Ultra Fenugreek Extract - Featuring Testofen 300 mg 60 Veg Caps - Swanson®
I was using this one for a while because it has tribulus and other beneficial sumps, but it got too expensive.
Testosterone Supplement. Masculini-T Support by LifeSeasons
