Pygeum overload! (No pun intended!!)

After looking at porn for a bit, I actually have a small spot on my underwear! Apparently the key that I was missing was my libido. Hard to produce precum when you aren't in the mood. Just getting an erection isn't enough. Maybe I'll readd the pygeum daily to go along with the new increase in libido...
 
Hi all! So I have been reading this thread for a while now and I ordered some Pygeum and Saw palmetto. Then I read something horrible about Saw Palmetto, that it may cause impotence. What do you guys think, is it safe to take?
 

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I'm about 3 weeks into saw palmetto and I've upped the dose now, not really felt or noticed anything different whatsoever. The difference with pygeum was pretty clear after a few days for me
 
It may be a common post, but how long would you guys say that it took you to increase your volume? I am just starting week 3 right now. I have noticed some increase but it is slow going. I mostly have noticed that I feel like I need to cum quicker when masterbating. I remember another person mentioning that when they first had their major precum moment, they mistook it for them orgasming. It feels pretty close. I was able to make enough precum to make a drop start to fall down my penis, but it might be too soon to tell. I will continue to take it for a while, though I may need to purchase another bottle soon... I had enough for about 60ish days when I started so about 6 weeks. I will update later.
 
It may be a common post, but how long would you guys say that it took you to increase your volume? I am just starting week 3 right now. I have noticed some increase but it is slow going. I mostly have noticed that I feel like I need to cum quicker when masterbating. I remember another person mentioning that when they first had their major precum moment, they mistook it for them orgasming. It feels pretty close. I was able to make enough precum to make a drop start to fall down my penis, but it might be too soon to tell. I will continue to take it for a while, though I may need to purchase another bottle soon... I had enough for about 60ish days when I started so about 6 weeks. I will update later.
For me, Pygeum increases my precum volume within 24 hours of taking it, and I’m at full increased volume within 3 or 4 days after starting. I do notice my body gets use to it though and the effects taper off after about 2 weeks, so I do a 3 weeks on / 2 weeks off cycle.
 
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Anyone have a bad reaction or liver issues while on Fenugreek?
How exactly do you take it, if you are? I have some in my spice rack and would like to know, in your personal opinion, if it has helped at all. Thank you and hoping we can research this collectively to see if it is worth the time and/or risk of using fenugreek.
 
How exactly do you take it, if you are? I have some in my spice rack and would like to know, in your personal opinion, if it has helped at all. Thank you and hoping we can research this collectively to see if it is worth the time and/or risk of using fenugreek.


some info described in wikipedia dot org.... may also want to check with your doc.
 
How exactly do you take it, if you are? I have some in my spice rack and would like to know, in your personal opinion, if it has helped at all. Thank you and hoping we can research this collectively to see if it is worth the time and/or risk of using fenugreek.
Mine are supplements capsules
 
I just randomly saw this video, this guy can LEAK (somewhere in the middle of video)

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I'm not sure if this has been addressed already, but I've been taking 200mg of Pygeum every day for a month and now I don't seem to produce any precum at all. Anyone else have this result??
 
I'm not sure if this has been addressed already, but I've been taking 200mg of Pygeum every day for a month and now I don't seem to produce any precum at all. Anyone else have this result??
Yes, same happened to me once when I took Pygeum for too long. Scared me as I thought I did permanent damage to my Cowper’s glands, as I’ve always produced a good amount of pre even without Pygeum. Never had zero precum since puberty.

Good news is I stopped taking it, and my precum came back to normal within a week. Now I cycle, 3 weeks on, 2 weeks off, and haven’t had a problem since.
 
Yes, same happened to me once when I took Pygeum for too long. Scared me as I thought I did permanent damage to my Cowper’s glands, as I’ve always produced a good amount of pre even without Pygeum. Never had zero precum since puberty.

Good news is I stopped taking it, and my precum came back to normal within a week. Now I cycle, 3 weeks on, 2 weeks off, and haven’t had a problem since.
Thanks Focus880 - I'll try cycling like that. Although it seems that I completely stopped precumming at all within days of starting Pygeum. Maybe it will turn out to not be for me?
 
I'm not sure if this has been addressed already, but I've been taking 200mg of Pygeum every day for a month and now I don't seem to produce any precum at all. Anyone else have this result??
Pygeum has a tendency to thicken secretions so you're most definitely producing but it is too thick to ooze out like it normally does. I always couple celery seeds and lecithin with it as well as increasing water intake.
 
I haven't made a post about my journey for a while. I have been using pygeum for about 3 years (inconsistently). I have had some good results and some less great results. Here is what I can tell from my experience.
If you use a high dose pygeum, you will get a better/quicker effect. That said, the common 2:1 ratio is used for the smaller dose so if you had to try to increase the dose, I would suggest taking it for a day or two and stopping for a day (either doing a 1:1 or 2:1 for one to two days only). In my experience, I have taken a large dose and found it working either the same day, or the next day (and by large, I mean a 5,000 cap). But quickly after that, the effects seem to wear off, almost as if I no longer produce precum... From what I can gather, this is due to the mucus being two thick. After a few days of a moderately increased dose to the 200mg, I noticed after a few days, my snot was very thick. This is a good indicator as your nasal mucus and cowpers gland mucus are both mucus so one being thick is a good indicator of the other. I have not tested taking a high dose with a day in between like this, but this is just from my experience. Also, taking pygeum for too long will cause you to build a tolerance for it. Not a permanent one, but one none the less so when it comes to pygeum, the saying "less is more" couldn't be more on the nose.
Now what I noticed worked for me, taking 200mg twice daily has been working (morning and night). I have been taking it 6days on and 2days off, slightly different to a true 2:1 ratio. I have been doing this for 2 cycles as of writing this and I have been able to produce a drop of precum. Not leaking but getting there. I expect either in the next cycle or the one after will the effects be more noticeable.
What didn't work (and even seemed detrimental), taking it for too long (more than two weeks). Even at the dose previously mentioned, taking it for 4weeks had little effect. This is why cycling is VERY important. I used to think that it wouldn't matter that much but it does. Taking too high of a dose for too long also had the effect of showing progress and then going dry. This means more than a few days to a week. If you use the high dose, I might even recommend taking a 1:2 ratio where you take it one day on and two days off. The strangest experience I had with the higher dose was that after I got to the bone dry stage, it seemed to not hold up the results later. I could be semi-leaky one day, and after getting off of it, barely produce any at all. I mentioned in previous posts that it is wise to imagine pygeum like caffeine. A cup or two daily is fine, but taking 2000-5000mg a day is not going to be good for you in the long run. Taking a large dose of pygeum had a more immediate effect, but it didn't stick and taking it for too long had the adverse effect. Maybe taking it once in a while, like once a week would be fine, but I would probably suggest avoiding these types. Like with penile stretching, taking pygeum is a marathon, or maybe a dash when compared to stretching since pygeum has a more noticeable effect within a months time.
All/most of these results were found with the fact that I don't drink that much water. I imagine that increasing the amount of water will help increase production a bit, but for now it doesn't seem necessary.
I recently have been put on an antidepressant called Wellbutrin, though I take the generic called Bupropion. I would suggest looking into this if you suffer from depression. You probably have a mild case and don't even know it so talking with your doctor is a good idea. They will ask you a series of questions which will qualify you or not for the prescription. The reason I mention this is the drug has little adverse effects to libido and erection quality. Actually it can be said that it does the opposite. Many claim that they went from low to moderate libido to not even being able to look at a cucumber without getting an erection (their words, not mine).

Anyway, I will update in a few cycles to share my results. Fingers crossed.