Race play - thoughts and discussion

[Topher the Gopher]

Anyone who walks that close to a line is bound to step over it. And, in this case, the only line that exists is the one leading straight from the sexual kink to one's attitude toward race relations.

I would look at it on a case-by-case basis. Personally, all I know is that I've enjoyed watching videos of it in the past, but it hasn't affected how I think about different kinds of people, namely that I think of and treat everyone the same: Based on their words and actions and not what they look like or where they're from.

 

[FrankieGuile]

I would look at it on a case-by-case basis. Personally, all I know is that I've enjoyed watching videos of it in the past, but it hasn't affected how I think about different kinds of people, namely that I think of and treat everyone the same: Based on their words and actions and not what they look like or where they're from.

Looking at it "on a case-by-case basis" is a poor refuge for adherents to the kink. It's the rhetorical equivalent of the mindless, "it is what it is," or "you can't generalize." My opinion on the matter is uninfluenced by such platitudes.

 

[Topher the Gopher]

Looking at it "on a case-by-case basis" is a poor refuge for adherents to the kink. It's the rhetorical equivalent of the mindless, "it is what it is," or "you can't generalize." My opinion on the matter is uninfluenced by such platitudes.

If you say so. I think generalizing is foolish, but
I guess.

 

[FrankieGuile]

If you say so. I think generalizing is foolish, but
I guess.

Just consider that without generalizing people could hardly engage in conversation. Person 1: "Nice weather we're having!" Person 2: "Why do you say that?" Person 1: "Because it is warm and sunny!" Person 2: "Well, not everybody likes 'warm and sunny.' Some people like it cold. Some people need rain on their crops and gardens. Geez! You can't generalize!" The retort, "you can't generalize" is just a way to shut down a more meaningful conversation because one person has nothing interesting to say.

 

[Topher the Gopher]

Just consider that without generalizing people could hardly engage in conversation. Person 1: "Nice weather we're having!" Person 2: "Why do you say that?" Person 1: "Because it is warm and sunny!" Person 2: "Well, not everybody likes 'warm and sunny.' Some people like it cold. Some people need rain on their crops and gardens. Geez! You can't generalize!" The retort, "you can't generalize" is just a way to shut down a more meaningful conversation because one person has nothing interesting to say.

I'm not afraid to admit that I've run out of things to say about a topic. *shrug*

 

[FrankieGuile]

I'm not afraid to admit that I've run out of things to say about a topic. *shrug*

I guess I've exhausted my interest in it as well -- subject to someone generalizing on a case-by-case basis something that is what it is!

 

[coordinatedchaos]

look, people asked for opinions. for quite a few, it's distasteful. there is no real issue. It's understandable why some would have issues with it. can it be done in a non-hateful way? I suppose so. Though the nature of how it's done seems pretty sinister. Just as others can engage in it, many can deem it harmful or distasteful. it is what it is! I'm not Jewish, but then I'd deem "Holocaust play" negative if a German couple did this, with one partner being Jewish.

 

[coordinatedchaos]

We'll have to agree to disagree that race play necessitates bigotry. There may be a fine line between taboo fantasies and outright racism, but it's still a line. If you or anyone else doesn't like it, that's perfectly valid.

does it necessitate bigotry? not absolutely. Is it or can it be a vehicle for such? yes.

 

[pass3434]

there is little to enjoy. not everybody is into sexual stuff since it's edgy. And why not reason with sex? we do it all the time. We don't tolerate paedo shit. We don't tolerate incest. You might like stuff since it's edgy, but you're protecting. not everybody has your awareness or sensibilities. I stand that race play is racist. And those who partake in it are racist or self-hating people of the "target" race.
You're assuming it's all fun - you're projecting again. There is a world beyond your awareness of it, and it's comically arrogant to presume you know the intent of all who partake in it.
Then calling it out makes people see who the racists and self-haters are, and one can avoid them. Simple!
Why even expect blacks and other non-whites to accept your kink? pretty shallow logic. I agree with her -

1. Not all are into edgy sex.
Very true. So not every one is having sex with each other. People have sex with people who are compatible.

2. We don’t tolerate pedo shit.
Of course. Because that is not happening between two consenting adults.

3. Call race play racism.
Fine. That’s gets people who are into it even more aroused.

4. Assuming it’s all fun and projecting again
I don’t need to assume. I genuinely feel it. And my partners are into it too. Again. Mutual consent adults we are. If my partner is not into it, I do not have to do it.

Just stop reasoning with sex and go out and have fun in the way you want, as long as it’s mutually consented and between two adults.

 

[pass3434]

What if a blonde-haired, blue-eyed, German person wanted "religion play" or "Nazi play" with a Jewish person? Is that OK? "oh it's just a kink!!" really?
Kink shaming is one thing. But no, not all kinks are unquestionable. Like speech in general, we can examine the limits and consequences of said speech.
What if a Japanese person wanted "war play" with a Chinese person, with the Japanese person dressed in military uniform and the Chinese person in civilian clothing? Wht if they renamed their bedroom "Nanjing" for the event? Can a white American have "Manifest Destiny play" with a native American? Why not? It's only a kink and in the bedroom after all..... I don't give a shit if i seem like a square. Plenty of people from marginalised groups would find it distasteful. And rightly so! just open one's racism, bigotry or self-hatred!
And don't lecture me or talk to me like you're my father.
You'd find a lot of people would share my view.

I mean, what you listed are weird kinks but yeah, if they are shared between two mutually consented adults, they are legit kinks.

You don’t set up laws on how people behave in the bedroom. But I’m pretty sure people who have kinks you described….. are rare species.

I personally will reject someone having this type of kinks. But it’s my personal preference.

 

[coordinatedchaos]

I mean, what you listed are weird kinks but yeah, if they are shared between two mutually consented adults, they are legit kinks.

You don’t set up laws on how people behave in the bedroom. But I’m pretty sure people who have kinks you described….. are rare species.

I personally will reject someone having this type of kinks. But it’s my personal preference.

You seem triggered people are calling this out. It's an opinion. you asked for opinions.
You'd find it's pretty common to view race play with suspicion or disgust. Maybe show the same tolerance to them how you are requesting for others. One can note the freedom to engage in sex, whilst acknowledging the wider costs and implications of such. Not all consensual activity is fine by itself. If you give somebody a BJ in a dark cinema seat, it's still illegal if the ushers or management find you.

 

[coordinatedchaos]

1. Not all are into edgy sex.
Very true. So not every one is having sex with each other. People have sex with people who are compatible.

2. We don’t tolerate pedo shit.
Of course. Because that is not happening between two consenting adults.

3. Call race play racism.
Fine. That’s gets people who are into it even more aroused.

4. Assuming it’s all fun and projecting again
I don’t need to assume. I genuinely feel it. And my partners are into it too. Again. Mutual consent adults we are. If my partner is not into it, I do not have to do it.

Just stop reasoning with sex and go out and have fun in the way you want, as long as it’s mutually consented and between two adults.

I dont see the contention here.
Freedom isn't absolute. there are all sorts of costs attached.
people can fuck how they wish. doesn't mean that others cannot view it as distasteful or problematic.
A number of people here have told you this.
as for more aroused, is it because they are racist and that forms the reason for them liking it? maybe. or maybe not.
You seem to have an issue with people calling it out. Or thinking it's all fine and assuming every case of race play is consensual or just for fun. Maybe. but then why ask what people think about it, and then disliking people's responses? when said responses are common views?

You really should counter or at least discuss the views of the detractors, and not just say "it's only fun" or "it's our right!" or "it's only cool between consenting adults".

 

[pass3434]

You seem triggered people are calling this out. It's an opinion. you asked for opinions.
You'd find it's pretty common to view race play with suspicion or disgust. Maybe show the same tolerance to them how you are requesting for others. One can note the freedom to engage in sex, whilst acknowledging the wider costs and implications of such. Not all consensual activity is fine by itself. If you give somebody a BJ in a dark cinema seat, it's still illegal if the ushers or management find you.

Dude you are the one triggered. I kept saying it’s just something between two people in the bedroom. No one is even inviting you to comment.

And how is it comparable with having public sex? Ok let me narrow down a bit more for you. Any sexual activity, mutually consented by two adults, happening privately in a private place, is acceptable.

Are you happy now?

 

[pass3434]

I dont see the contention here.
Freedom isn't absolute. there are all sorts of costs attached.
people can fuck how they wish. doesn't mean that others cannot view it as distasteful or problematic.
A number of people here have told you this.
as for more aroused, is it because they are racist and that forms the reason for them liking it? maybe. or maybe not.
You seem to have an issue with people calling it out. Or thinking it's all fine and assuming every case of race play is consensual or just for fun. Maybe. but then why ask what people think about it, and then disliking people's responses? when said responses are common views?

You really should counter or at least discuss the views of the detractors, and not just say "it's only fun" or "it's our right!" or "it's only cool between consenting adults".

“people can fuck how they wish. doesn't mean that others cannot view it as distasteful or problematic.”

Dude. No one invites you to view their sexual behavior.

 

[coordinatedchaos]

lol. it's comical you're turning me into the prime "antagonist" here. am I? others have shared a distaste towards it. Coward.

 

[AllieHeidi]

I’m a white guy and I think raceplay is really hot. I don’t believe there’s anything wrong with it.

Location: Huntsville, Alabama

Interesting.

I believe that white men should be careful when in the Dom role because you could accidentally re-traumatize the person of color if there aren’t guidelines in place to protect the Sub. Remember that you’re role playing as a something that mirrors real world terror and so you need to be alert at all times.

It's my sincere believe that any Black person who desires to engage in this and take on the submissive role is in need of therapy to work on their self-hate issues. And any White person who desires to engage in this and take on the dominant role is just a full blown racist. That white hood in their closet is not just for "scenes."

You have to be Uncle Ruckus levels of self-hate to want to engage in this mess. It's toxic and regressive. It's right up there with rape play to me. These aren't kinks to me. These are signs of decaying mental and emotional health that should be addressed by a mental health professional.

 

[malakos]

It sounds super ridiculous. I'm rather glad I haven't directly encountered it.

 

[coordinatedchaos]

Dude you are the one triggered. I kept saying it’s just something between two people in the bedroom. No one is even inviting you to comment.

And how is it comparable with having public sex? Ok let me narrow down a bit more for you. Any sexual activity, mutually consented by two adults, happening privately in a private place, is acceptable.

Are you happy now?

I'm not triggered at all. I'm amused you have a blinded view to it. and assume it's all contained. you've not entertained various vies posed here, not just by me, over how it can be seen as problematic. if you're this "smart" then answer the views of various here. and don't cite me as the "villain" when it's clear I'm not hahaha. such a blinded dope. typical CA psyche. ]

So answer this question - could be used to advance racism? are ALL cases of it benign and sexuallypositive? Are those who oppose it wrong or are they "bad and evil and oppressive" for "violating" what people do in their own private spaces?
Or you can continue to be blinded and sensitive.
Or will youcite me, when many others here have said similar viewpoints to my own and the pro-race play advocates haven't answered them?

 

[coordinatedchaos]

Dude you are the one triggered. I kept saying it’s just something between two people in the bedroom. No one is even inviting you to comment.

And how is it comparable with having public sex? Ok let me narrow down a bit more for you. Any sexual activity, mutually consented by two adults, happening privately in a private place, is acceptable.

Are you happy now?

CAers don't think well. lol.
OK.
no acts have wider implications. got it.
Glad I'm not even American, let alone part of that fake state.

 

[coordinatedchaos]

"what do you think of race play?"
"it's problematic"
"don't tell others what to do!!"

lol.

babies.