What's your thoughts on the backlash againstAI generated explicit art ?

[CorCordium123]

but its fake so why would they even care? dont have any nudes of me online and never will. why do people do it all the time.

they always do but for actors who is it hurting? They have accepted they will have to do nude scenes and for us its a playful art. they shouldn't be actors then.

I'll answer both at the same time.

Your take is a legitimate take. That they're sacrificing something by being actors. And any person close to me I would warn about your take as a reason NOT to pursue a career where people might assume you have no right to what people do with your real images, and AI generated.
You should have been an actor and maybe they all should have your view.

But they don't. Nor do all viewers. Who does it hurt. Here where I live(abroad) girls have already attempted suicide because boys made AI porn of them and circulated it at their schools, sent it to their families.

I'm prolly that person who will say freedom with no limits isn't freedom to someone. Because someone with too much freedom is always gonna trample on the rights of someone less powerful.

Thanks to the internet, and to net anononymity and the sexual hyper-curiousity of people like us(I'll include myself) we want and feel we have a right to leaked private videos, every piece of nudity an actor has created and even the ones we wish they had created. It hurts the consumer by creating a hunger that sometimes causes rape, especially of minors. Looking but not touching can lead to an unquenchable desire to touch without consent.

But the human being who we consume, unless they live under a rock, has a right to be bothered by what you create featuring them especially if it includes their genitals that they have never shown and them doing things they would never do. I'd be bothered if it were me, my mom, or even a host of celebrities I admire. A humane society would embrace empathy and consent. That remains to be seen.

Thanks for being so respectful while clearly disagreeing. I appreciate it

 

[mikyang]

Your take is a legitimate take. That they're sacrificing something by being actors. And any person close to me I would warn about your take as a reason NOT to pursue a career where people might assume you have no right to what people do with your real images, and AI generated.
You should have been an actor and maybe they all should have your view.

But they don't. Nor do all viewers. Who does it hurt. Here where I live(abroad) girls have already attempted suicide because boys made AI porn of them and circulated it at their schools, sent it to their families.

I'm prolly that person who will say freedom with no limits isn't freedom to someone. Because someone with too much freedom is always gonna trample on the rights of someone less powerful.

Thanks to the internet, and to net anononymity and the sexual hyper-curiousity of people like us(I'll include myself) we want and feel we have a right to leaked private videos, every piece of nudity an actor has created and even the ones we wish they had created. It hurts the consumer by creating a hunger that sometimes causes rape, especially of minors. Looking but not touching can lead to an unquenchable desire to touch without consent.

But the human being who we consume, unless they live under a rock, has a right to be bothered by what you create featuring them especially if it includes their genitals that they have never shown and them doing things they would never do. I'd be bothered if it were me, my mom, or even a host of celebrities I admire. A humane society would embrace empathy and consent. That remains to be seen.

Thanks for being so respectful while clearly disagreeing. I appreciate it

1 everyone sarifices something to get something else. its not just actors. But we are both here to look at nude images of man. Celebrities. Another reason why actors shouldnt be actors but they have to give there pound of flesh so to speak.

why dont the girls make AI porn of them and see how it they take it? Why do girls have to be damsel in distress? Get as ugly as they are.

I agree with you on the freedom part but banning AI isnt going to help we see what banning does it just puts it in the black market.

but you just said it yourself we have a right. One powerful way to keep your stuff off the net dont put it up there for the world to see. simple as that but what they do I have a right to send nude photos over the net to my boy girlfriend well then I have pity for you. Well rape is completely different subject now. AI is art. We can also use that phrase Martin kress said look but dont touch touch but dont etc etc

Yeah you do and others have a right to also like it which has been again taken away with the nude image Michenangelo with showing his penis. So that has been taken out of the text books. a piece of art which isnt sexual.
well if it was your mom sister brother that would be different as for actors why we see them and are not bothered by the new AI. Some will never get naked bradley steven perry etc etc.
As long as its art why not

 

[CorCordium123]

1 everyone sarifices something to get something else. its not just actors. But we are both here to look at nude images of man. Celebrities. Another reason why actors shouldnt be actors but they have to give there pound of flesh so to speak.

why dont the girls make AI porn of them and see how it they take it? Why do girls have to be damsel in distress? Get as ugly as they are.

I agree with you on the freedom part but banning AI isnt going to help we see what banning does it just puts it in the black market.

but you just said it yourself we have a right. One powerful way to keep your stuff off the net dont put it up there for the world to see. simple as that but what they do I have a right to send nude photos over the net to my boy girlfriend well then I have pity for you. Well rape is completely different subject now. AI is art. We can also use that phrase Martin kress said look but dont touch touch but dont etc etc

Yeah you do and others have a right to also like it which has been again taken away with the nude image Michenangelo with showing his penis. So that has been taken out of the text books. a piece of art which isnt sexual.
well if it was your mom sister brother that would be different as for actors why we see them and are not bothered by the new AI. Some will never get naked bradley steven perry etc etc.
As long as its art why not

It's strange to me that actor means they've done sex scenes which means fair game.
I think you overestimate who and who hasn't done sex scenes. If THEY HAVE, we agree.

Revenge porn by girls wouldn't solve anything. It's that larger bullying issue where the herd is ok treating some members unfairly or being passive while others do. Our debate seems to be an adult version of the same. Your real basis seems to center on "because we want to see them" and "because we can".
Is that enough? Is there no danger in becoming more and more used to sexualizing people we will never have sex WITH?

 

[bravesoldier]

Current government has ZERO credibility. If they take a stand against fake porn and not fake new, well, there's your sign!

 

[mikyang]

Current government has ZERO credibility. If they take a stand against fake porn and not fake new, well, there's your sign!

and when will the cute actors ever get naked?

 

[DjnCC]

I think it has gotten out of hand. Imagine what Henry Cavill & other celebrities feel like when they come across countless pornographic images all over the internet that are created & deliberately meant to resemble them. Some AI artists seem to be obsessed with some personalities.
I find it truly sad that people can devote so much time & energy "creating" these often physically exaggerated images & apparently getting off on them.
A large part of the appeal of AI porn is that your fantasies are brought to life through imagery, however wild they might be. If a famous individual happens to get your rocks off, well....too bad for him or her & anything created depicting them will be posted online for the world to see. That doesn't seem right or fair. The intent is deliberate & premeditated in every sense of the word.
All of this will trickle down to younger generations & will become more & more sophisticated & difficult to differentiate between what is real & what is not.
Someone criticized Taylor Swift for making a negative deal about images made of her. If she wanted to show you what she looks like completely naked she would have included nudes in her music portfolio for your viewing pleasure.
The argument is "That's not actually Taylor Swift, or Henry Cavill, etc. So it shouldn't be a problem." The other side to that argument is that those images are created with the sole intention of helping the viewer to imagine that it is that person, to fantasize that they are seeing that individual's nude body.
I'm a graphic designer. I know how to draw, paint & create images with actual tools like paint, brushes & pencils.
I also am very familiar with computer programs that are commonly used within this industry to fine-tune artwork.
But I draw a very solid line against using the features of actual individuals, especially the living ones, to purposely place images meant to look exactly like them, in various sexual positions & scenarios without their permission.
My opinion on the millions of images made of AI characters that are compilations of what the creators' find sexually attractive.......get a life, for Christ's sake! I find so many of these extremely exaggerated "characters" that look like the creators parameters were "What would a normal person look like if an air hose was turned on & shoved up his or her ass? And for shit & giggles, give him a penis that looks ridiculous to any person that knows what anatomy actually looks like."
I can point out so many images I see with these very poorly done, heinous-looking, tore up dicks, but I won't.
Some of these individuals should consider stepping away from their computers, tablets, etc. & get out more, actually date, have sex with real people, & take a real good look at what a penis (especially the head) & vagina looks like.
Your visual fantasy that you've chosen to show to the world needs some basic anatomical help.
I totally understand that the majority of these images are just fantasy & will continue on, only becoming more & more sophisticated & seamless. But in the long-term, this seemingly harmless genre will stealthily creep into reality in various ways & will begin to make people question what is real. That can be dangerous in the wrong hands....wait, a lot of this ability already is, & actually has been quietly used for years now. Did you know that?
I find myself drawn to creators that don't need to exaggerate & overdo their work. The ability to create images that look like actual breathing people is fascinating to me. I have come across so many unique, well-made & often hauntingly beautiful AI images online. For an old school artist like myself, I will never be able to compete & create dozens of exceptional images like those in one day that would easily take me days, if not much longer to create the traditional way. And I'm ok with that. I marvel at those who consistently create exceptional, inspiring characters & places. There's a home for such unbound creativity & I am lucky to see it created.
But I sincerely wish that the faces of those who are recognizable,...famous... were not used by creators that use AI platforms. LPSG has policies regarding posting spy cams & the images of those unknowing individuals. Isn't purposely using the faces of recognizable individuals, whether they actually took the image or not, the same thing? The image made was deliberate & intended to appear just like the person. The intent is clearly there. Eventually down the road, the court systems will be flooded with copyright lawsuits.
My fellow humans, aren't you concerned that we are becoming a human race that is quickly losing it's humanity? Or is all of this just harmless fun?

 

[mikyang]

I think it has gotten out of hand. Imagine what Henry Cavill & other celebrities feel like when they come across countless pornographic images all over the internet that are created & deliberately meant to resemble them. Some AI artists seem to be obsessed with some personalities.
I find it truly sad that people can devote so much time & energy "creating" these often physically exaggerated images & apparently getting off on them.
A large part of the appeal of AI porn is that your fantasies are brought to life through imagery, however wild they might be. If a famous individual happens to get your rocks off, well....too bad for him or her & anything created depicting them will be posted online for the world to see. That doesn't seem right or fair. The intent is deliberate & premeditated in every sense of the word.
All of this will trickle down to younger generations & will become more & more sophisticated & difficult to differentiate between what is real & what is not.
Someone criticized Taylor Swift for making a negative deal about images made of her. If she wanted to show you what she looks like completely naked she would have included nudes in her music portfolio for your viewing pleasure.
The argument is "That's not actually Taylor Swift, or Henry Cavill, etc. So it shouldn't be a problem." The other side to that argument is that those images are created with the sole intention of helping the viewer to imagine that it is that person, to fantasize that they are seeing that individual's nude body.
I'm a graphic designer. I know how to draw, paint & create images with actual tools like paint, brushes & pencils.
I also am very familiar with computer programs that are commonly used within this industry to fine-tune artwork.
But I draw a very solid line against using the features of actual individuals, especially the living ones, to purposely place images meant to look exactly like them, in various sexual positions & scenarios without their permission.
My opinion on the millions of images made of AI characters that are compilations of what the creators' find sexually attractive.......get a life, for Christ's sake! I find so many of these extremely exaggerated "characters" that look like the creators parameters were "What would a normal person look like if an air hose was turned on & shoved up his or her ass? And for shit & giggles, give him a penis that looks ridiculous to any person that knows what anatomy actually looks like."
I can point out so many images I see with these very poorly done, heinous-looking, tore up dicks, but I won't.
Some of these individuals should consider stepping away from their computers, tablets, etc. & get out more, actually date, have sex with real people, & take a real good look at what a penis (especially the head) & vagina looks like.
Your visual fantasy that you've chosen to show to the world needs some basic anatomical help.
I totally understand that the majority of these images are just fantasy & will continue on, only becoming more & more sophisticated & seamless. But in the long-term, this seemingly harmless genre will stealthily creep into reality in various ways & will begin to make people question what is real. That can be dangerous in the wrong hands....wait, a lot of this ability already is, & actually has been quietly used for years now. Did you know that?
I find myself drawn to creators that don't need to exaggerate & overdo their work. The ability to create images that look like actual breathing people is fascinating to me. I have come across so many unique, well-made & often hauntingly beautiful AI images online. For an old school artist like myself, I will never be able to compete & create dozens of exceptional images like those in one day that would easily take me days, if not much longer to create the traditional way. And I'm ok with that. I marvel at those who consistently create exceptional, inspiring characters & places. There's a home for such unbound creativity & I am lucky to see it created.
But I sincerely wish that the faces of those who are recognizable,...famous... were not used by creators that use AI platforms. LPSG has policies regarding posting spy cams & the images of those unknowing individuals. Isn't purposely using the faces of recognizable individuals, whether they actually took the image or not, the same thing? The image made was deliberate & intended to appear just like the person. The intent is clearly there. Eventually down the road, the court systems will be flooded with copyright lawsuits.
My fellow humans, aren't you concerned that we are becoming a human race that is quickly losing it's humanity? Or is all of this just harmless fun?

well isnt kinda like Blade runner? Isnt it cool that we can recreate our dead family members etc etc

of course there will be porn but that also has been around for ages should we have regulations yes we should but how is this spy cams? some actors have never gotten nude and are now gone.

 

[Watcher303]

I think it has gotten out of hand. Imagine what Henry Cavill & other celebrities feel like when they come across countless pornographic images all over the internet that are created & deliberately meant to resemble them. Some AI artists seem to be obsessed with some personalities.
I find it truly sad that people can devote so much time & energy "creating" these often physically exaggerated images & apparently getting off on them.
A large part of the appeal of AI porn is that your fantasies are brought to life through imagery, however wild they might be. If a famous individual happens to get your rocks off, well....too bad for him or her & anything created depicting them will be posted online for the world to see. That doesn't seem right or fair. The intent is deliberate & premeditated in every sense of the word.
All of this will trickle down to younger generations & will become more & more sophisticated & difficult to differentiate between what is real & what is not.
Someone criticized Taylor Swift for making a negative deal about images made of her. If she wanted to show you what she looks like completely naked she would have included nudes in her music portfolio for your viewing pleasure.
The argument is "That's not actually Taylor Swift, or Henry Cavill, etc. So it shouldn't be a problem." The other side to that argument is that those images are created with the sole intention of helping the viewer to imagine that it is that person, to fantasize that they are seeing that individual's nude body.
I'm a graphic designer. I know how to draw, paint & create images with actual tools like paint, brushes & pencils.
I also am very familiar with computer programs that are commonly used within this industry to fine-tune artwork.
But I draw a very solid line against using the features of actual individuals, especially the living ones, to purposely place images meant to look exactly like them, in various sexual positions & scenarios without their permission.
My opinion on the millions of images made of AI characters that are compilations of what the creators' find sexually attractive.......get a life, for Christ's sake! I find so many of these extremely exaggerated "characters" that look like the creators parameters were "What would a normal person look like if an air hose was turned on & shoved up his or her ass? And for shit & giggles, give him a penis that looks ridiculous to any person that knows what anatomy actually looks like."
I can point out so many images I see with these very poorly done, heinous-looking, tore up dicks, but I won't.
Some of these individuals should consider stepping away from their computers, tablets, etc. & get out more, actually date, have sex with real people, & take a real good look at what a penis (especially the head) & vagina looks like.
Your visual fantasy that you've chosen to show to the world needs some basic anatomical help.
I totally understand that the majority of these images are just fantasy & will continue on, only becoming more & more sophisticated & seamless. But in the long-term, this seemingly harmless genre will stealthily creep into reality in various ways & will begin to make people question what is real. That can be dangerous in the wrong hands....wait, a lot of this ability already is, & actually has been quietly used for years now. Did you know that?
I find myself drawn to creators that don't need to exaggerate & overdo their work. The ability to create images that look like actual breathing people is fascinating to me. I have come across so many unique, well-made & often hauntingly beautiful AI images online. For an old school artist like myself, I will never be able to compete & create dozens of exceptional images like those in one day that would easily take me days, if not much longer to create the traditional way. And I'm ok with that. I marvel at those who consistently create exceptional, inspiring characters & places. There's a home for such unbound creativity & I am lucky to see it created.
But I sincerely wish that the faces of those who are recognizable,...famous... were not used by creators that use AI platforms. LPSG has policies regarding posting spy cams & the images of those unknowing individuals. Isn't purposely using the faces of recognizable individuals, whether they actually took the image or not, the same thing? The image made was deliberate & intended to appear just like the person. The intent is clearly there. Eventually down the road, the court systems will be flooded with copyright lawsuits.
My fellow humans, aren't you concerned that we are becoming a human race that is quickly losing it's humanity? Or is all of this just harmless fun?

You cannot regulate fantasies/thought. The best way to have no one ever sexualize your image is to not have your image out there. Secondarily, bring back shaming. Allow the public to condemn the public use of popular images. Just don't let Government get involved, because they, like the fantacists, will always take it too far.

 

[mikyang]

You cannot regulate fantasies/thought. The best way to have no one ever sexualize your image is to not have your image out there. Secondarily, bring back shaming. Allow the public to condemn the public use of popular images. Just don't let Government get involved, because they, like the fantacists, will always take it too far.

well its a little bit too late that cats out of the bag. what we can do now is have a tag that says thats a deep deep fake. Lets not ban it since we banned liquer in the US and look what happened. Regulations YES but out right banning NO NO NO

It would be nice to have like a post humerous reunion of the dead relations that would be cool or like porn or naked celebs to your party!

 

[Watcher303]

well its a little bit too late that cats out of the bag. what we can do now is have a tag that says thats a deep deep fake. Lets not ban it since we banned liquer in the US and look what happened. Regulations YES but out right banning NO NO NO

It would be nice to have like a post humerous reunion of the dead relations that would be cool or like porn or naked celebs to your party!

Regulations sound again like Government. Inform the public that this is perverse and shame those that publish it, if possible. Lots of things are frowned upon by society, especially in our new Puritanism, and they don't always have to lead to "Regulations". Society could do with a little more bottom-up policing, rather than top-down. (And I mean "policing" in the NON-Governmental sense. Pretty much karens and scolds. There's a reason they have always existed.)

 

[mikyang]

Regulations sound again like Government. Inform the public that this is perverse and shame those that publish it, if possible. Lots of things are frowned upon by society, especially in our new Puritanism, and they don't always have to lead to "Regulations". Society could do with a little more bottom-up policing, rather than top-down. (And I mean "policing" in the NON-Governmental sense. Pretty much karens and scolds. There's a reason they have always existed.)

maybe guidelines then we cant out right ban things prohibition and abortion

 

[sam123453]

I totally understand the porn issue but what's the problem with creating celebrities in artistic photos? I'm a big fan of Beyoncé and I can't even create anything related to her anymore without running the risk of being blocked

 

[sam123453]

About Taylor, honestly this has always been done to other celebrities for a long time, why did it become a problem because of her? Tired of this meaningless nonsense, she probably didn't even care about those photos

 

[Watcher303]

About Taylor, honestly this has always been done to other celebrities for a long time, why did it become a problem because of her? Tired of this meaningless nonsense, she probably didn't even care about those photos

She was useful. She has a huge following, so authoritarian Government Laws to protect HER would be welcomed by those who couldn't see the loss of freedoms.

 

[Futhehellru]

I think it has gotten out of hand. Imagine what Henry Cavill & other celebrities feel like when they come across countless pornographic images all over the internet that are created & deliberately meant to resemble them. Some AI artists seem to be obsessed with some personalities.
I find it truly sad that people can devote so much time & energy "creating" these often physically exaggerated images & apparently getting off on them.
A large part of the appeal of AI porn is that your fantasies are brought to life through imagery, however wild they might be. If a famous individual happens to get your rocks off, well....too bad for him or her & anything created depicting them will be posted online for the world to see. That doesn't seem right or fair. The intent is deliberate & premeditated in every sense of the word.
All of this will trickle down to younger generations & will become more & more sophisticated & difficult to differentiate between what is real & what is not.
Someone criticized Taylor Swift for making a negative deal about images made of her. If she wanted to show you what she looks like completely naked she would have included nudes in her music portfolio for your viewing pleasure.
The argument is "That's not actually Taylor Swift, or Henry Cavill, etc. So it shouldn't be a problem." The other side to that argument is that those images are created with the sole intention of helping the viewer to imagine that it is that person, to fantasize that they are seeing that individual's nude body.
I'm a graphic designer. I know how to draw, paint & create images with actual tools like paint, brushes & pencils.
I also am very familiar with computer programs that are commonly used within this industry to fine-tune artwork.
But I draw a very solid line against using the features of actual individuals, especially the living ones, to purposely place images meant to look exactly like them, in various sexual positions & scenarios without their permission.
My opinion on the millions of images made of AI characters that are compilations of what the creators' find sexually attractive.......get a life, for Christ's sake! I find so many of these extremely exaggerated "characters" that look like the creators parameters were "What would a normal person look like if an air hose was turned on & shoved up his or her ass? And for shit & giggles, give him a penis that looks ridiculous to any person that knows what anatomy actually looks like."
I can point out so many images I see with these very poorly done, heinous-looking, tore up dicks, but I won't.
Some of these individuals should consider stepping away from their computers, tablets, etc. & get out more, actually date, have sex with real people, & take a real good look at what a penis (especially the head) & vagina looks like.
Your visual fantasy that you've chosen to show to the world needs some basic anatomical help.
I totally understand that the majority of these images are just fantasy & will continue on, only becoming more & more sophisticated & seamless. But in the long-term, this seemingly harmless genre will stealthily creep into reality in various ways & will begin to make people question what is real. That can be dangerous in the wrong hands....wait, a lot of this ability already is, & actually has been quietly used for years now. Did you know that?
I find myself drawn to creators that don't need to exaggerate & overdo their work. The ability to create images that look like actual breathing people is fascinating to me. I have come across so many unique, well-made & often hauntingly beautiful AI images online. For an old school artist like myself, I will never be able to compete & create dozens of exceptional images like those in one day that would easily take me days, if not much longer to create the traditional way. And I'm ok with that. I marvel at those who consistently create exceptional, inspiring characters & places. There's a home for such unbound creativity & I am lucky to see it created.
But I sincerely wish that the faces of those who are recognizable,...famous... were not used by creators that use AI platforms. LPSG has policies regarding posting spy cams & the images of those unknowing individuals. Isn't purposely using the faces of recognizable individuals, whether they actually took the image or not, the same thing? The image made was deliberate & intended to appear just like the person. The intent is clearly there. Eventually down the road, the court systems will be flooded with copyright lawsuits.
My fellow humans, aren't you concerned that we are becoming a human race that is quickly losing it's humanity? Or is all of this just harmless fun?

Freedom of expression though. It’s art! Of course over-exaggerated imageries are likely to be of bad taste when judged by others but so can any drawing or caricature. The law will only get involved if the images are used with the intent to deceive.

 

[deleted25597721]

Freedom of expression though. It’s art! Of course over-exaggerated imageries are likely to be of bad taste when judged by others but so can any drawing or caricature. The law will only get involved if the images are used with the intent to deceive.

And when the images get real damn realistic and get out into the world and deceive, then the law will get involved or someone sues. Which is coming really fast.
It's already hitting regular people with fake revenge porn.

 

[Futhehellru]

And when the images get real damn realistic and get out into the world and deceive, then the law will get involved or someone sues. Which is coming really fast.
It's already hitting regular people with fake revenge porn.

Well, such offence is now common knowledge and if one still wishes to proceed, it will be followed by a conviction soon after. Where are people’s morals these days?

 

[Watcher303]

Here's an idea: Let people create what they WANT to create, and if someone is allegedly the victim of revenge porn (which is a more elaborate version of what used to be written about some people on bathroom stalls in the dark Ages), they can simply say "Hey, that's not me. That's A.I. Why is this person SO obsessed with me?" . No one loses freedoms, and the only people unhappy are those who want to sue other people, the politicians, and Taylor Swift.

 

[Futhehellru]

Regulations sound again like Government. Inform the public that this is perverse and shame those that publish it, if possible. Lots of things are frowned upon by society, especially in our new Puritanism, and they don't always have to lead to "Regulations". Society could do with a little more bottom-up policing, rather than top-down. (And I mean "policing" in the NON-Governmental sense. Pretty much karens and scolds. There's a reason they have always existed.)

Regulations sound again like Government. Inform the public that this is perverse and shame those that publish it, if possible. Lots of things are frowned upon by society, especially in our new Puritanism, and they don't always have to lead to "Regulations". Society could do with a little more bottom-up policing, rather than top-down. (And I mean "policing" in the NON-Governmental sense. Pretty much karens and scolds. There's a reason they have always existed.)

Sexualised imagery should remain, however, as suggested by a few before me “regulated” such that real and/or indistinguishable imagery cannot be distributed without the consent of the subject re appearance. Not sure what kind of shaming you’re referring to. A simply slap on the wrist will do little as form of discouragement. They should also at least be forced on their knees, bent over, with both hands spreading their cheeks on public square. So their a/h are used as targets for dildo throwing practice.

 

[mikyang]

Well, such offence is now common knowledge and if one still wishes to proceed, it will be followed by a conviction soon after. Where are people’s morals these days?

how is it morals? AI is here and wont stop.