Ya’ll Help - My Best Friend Confusing Af

I know something has to change for my sanity and general well-being though , just a massive blow like that might not go down so well for either of us.

Just so you know, the ONLY thing you can change is your part in this catastrophe. The only thing you need to worry about is your own mental health. By staying in that toxic relationship, you are causing yourself a lot of unneeded and unwanted heartache and depression. Him and his kid are not your responsibility. You are your own responsibility!
 
Uhm.... you're not. Nor are you the father....



I just mentioned you be honest... One can not be friends and desire a romantic relationship when the other has turned you down..

lol Wow .
Tbh, I personally know where I stand in the baby’s life , he’s told me what I am, so that’s where that comes from . Not some ravenous disillusion of self importance. This is my best guy friend we’re talking about , we are important in each others life.

Posting on the internet makes everything so one dimensional , and I guess nobody truly understands the layers and depth to the real life situation so that’s my mistake for thinking this was going to be easy.

But it’s fine , I’m done , It feels like I’m somehow becoming the bad guy in all of this lol ,
So I’ll leave it at that.

thanks a lot .
 
Personally, I don’t see you as the bad guy at all, in any of this!

Your feelings for him are deeper than his feelings for you; that’s not a bad thing. Complex or complicated of course, but not bad.

True best friends do whatever is necessary to be, and remain, best friends!

Sometimes there are no concerns about crossing lines. Then again sometimes there are definite lines to be strongly aware of.

You’ve made your point; he knows how you feel. Will he continue to respond by just teasing you, or is he deeply closeted? That’s for him to decide. Whether he acts on it or not; it’s up to him!

Are you willing to accept being best friends if he chooses not to interact sexually with you? That’s up to you!

Best friends willingly make sacrifices for the sake of their relationship!
 
Personally, I don’t see you as the bad guy at all, in any of this!

Your feelings for him are deeper than his feelings for you; that’s not a bad thing. Complex or complicated of course, but not bad.

True best friends do whatever is necessary to be, and remain, best friends!

Sometimes there are no concerns about crossing lines. Then again sometimes there are definite lines to be strongly aware of.

You’ve made your point; he knows how you feel. Will he continue to respond by just teasing you, or is he deeply closeted? That’s for him to decide. Whether he acts on it or not; it’s up to him!

Are you willing to accept being best friends if he chooses not to interact sexually with you? That’s up to you!

Best friends willingly make sacrifices for the sake of their relationship!

Hey & thank you so much for your perspective on this . It’s definitely a decision that I have to now make , as he’s already been told everything and has decided he can still be my friend . I also told him recently it was getting too hard and I had to sometimes take a break from the communication as we text 24/7 - he was okay with that @ first.
But has since made reference to me dropping him as and when I feel like .... so not sure how healthy it is, but can work through that .

either way , yes , I definitely think I can with a few adjustments make the relevant sacrifices for our relationship.
 
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You need to find a partner who is on the same page as you. As far as I can see, this guy is a thief stealing your time. Spend your time on someone who can reciprocate otherwise 10 years will pass and you got nothing to show for it.

Yes be friends but quit this fake boyfriend charade you are playing with him.
 
You need to find a partner who is on the same page as you. As far as I can see, this guy is a thief stealing your time. Spend your time on someone who can reciprocate otherwise 10 years will pass and you got nothing to show for it.

Yes be friends but quit this fake boyfriend charade you are playing with him.

Very well said , definitely taking this on board!
Thank u x
 
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So I’m confused , are you now insulting me or... ?
Because I definitely know your post was sarcastic

Only if you feel that being called a hopeless romantic is insulting.
I was rereading Lady Windermere's Fan (where the original quote isn't from I think).

And i definitely suspect it was ironic and not sarcastic.
 
Only if you feel that being called a hopeless romantic is insulting.
I was rereading Lady Windermere's Fan (where the original quote isn't from I think).

And i definitely suspect it was ironic and not sarcastic.

“Cecil Graham: What is a cynic?
Lord Darlington: A man who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing.
Cecil Graham: And a sentimentalist, my dear Darlington, is a man who sees an absurd value in everything and doesn’t know the market price of any single thing.”

This bit is. I love Oscar.
 
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Only if you feel that being called a hopeless romantic is insulting.
I was rereading Lady Windermere's Fan (where the original quote isn't from I think).

And i definitely suspect it was ironic and not sarcastic.

haha I know the original quote is irony is wasted on the ‘stupid’ lol so I didn’t know if that was the undertone .

And the sarcasm I was referring to was from the previous post about me getting ‘the answer I wanted to hear’ was unclear how genuine that was But it’s fine , I’m not offended either way lol .
I know asking for advice but not taking it is ridiculously redundant so I did value what everyone had to say x
 
haha I know the original quote is irony is wasted on the ‘stupid’ lol so I didn’t know if that was the undertone .

And the sarcasm I was referring to was from the previous post about me getting ‘the answer I wanted to hear’ was unclear how genuine that was But it’s fine , I’m not offended either way lol .
I know asking for advice but not taking it is ridiculously redundant so I did value what everyone had to say x

And it is nice to notice that we all came to the conclusion your friend is beyond our combined power of helpfulness but somehow a lot of us take an effort to share some thoughts with you.
So apparently we don't see you as hopeless.
Speaking for myself: just young!

And great to notice Hung gay guys helping each other out.
It's a brave new world...
Yay.
 
Irony is wasted on the hopeless romantic. (to paraphrase Oscar Wilde).
Nothing wrong with being a romantic, as long as you realize your (romantic) vulnerability, when compared to some others.

It helps if romantics try to remember and maintain their guard against being hurt, by possibly misreading signals.
 
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Nothing wrong with being a romantic, as long as you realize your (romantic) vulnerability, when compared to some others.

It helps if romantics try to remember and maintain their guard against being hurt, by possibly misreading signals.

Or accept that sometimes life hurts?
Funny that the original meaning of the word 'Passion' referred more to pain than to pleasure.
 
Very well said , definitely taking this on board!
Thank u x

I would also tell him to stop his inappropriate behavior because it's confusing you if he wants to be a friend or something else and he's actually not being a friend by behaving that way.

Based on what you've said, I'd say he enjoys the adoration. It boosts his ego. He loves the idea that you want him but it's coming at your expense.
 
I haven't written one of these in a very long time, but here goes. I'm going against the grain (what else is new?) here. I don't think there is anything wrong with remaining friends and friends ONLY, even good friends. I don't screw around with my friends but I totally value their friendship and it will never go beyond that. But man, I do treasure my friendships. A couple of them are closer than family to me.
My best advice to you is to simply stop wishing for anything beyond a traditional, non fucking relationship and treat him as you would a good friend, nothing more, nothing less. A good friend, most of us (nonsexually speaking) we would do anything for and that doesn't need to change.
What does need to change, and forgive me if I am wrong, is you wishing it was more. Even if he is closeted and doesn't want to come out, or he is, in fact straight or whatever and potentially you misinterpret some things that you would like them to be, not how he meant them to be. Personally I'd never throw away a good friendship.
That said, in a wishing it were more sense, even though it never was, you have to emotionally detach YOUR feelings for him and begin to see others. You may simply be seeing what you want to see and he isn't really sending mixed signals or whatever. He trusts you as his friend, regardless of your sexuality, to be just that, his good friend, nothing more, nothing less. Stop wishing it were more and potentially stop seeing what isn't really there.
For what it's worth, I do agree with the others in one sense and that is his son and wife (or g/f I forget?). As his good friend, it's OK to love his son because he is your best friend. His wife or g/f (sorry too lazy to read back) is highly suspicious it seems of you being around her guy (and he is hers, whether you like that or not) or perhaps is aware of the flirtatious nature of your friendship with him and worries there is more to it. That's my take. You have to stop wondering and wishing there was more between the two of you for many reasons, one for you to stop wasting your own efforts and apply toward someone that IS available if you find or stumble on someone you like, two because it seems she is suspicious of you or both of you, three is he belongs to her at present and his son. That is reality man.
It's up to you if you can stop wishing it were more. To do that is difficult but not impossible. Stop wishing for what isn't and enjoy his friendship without more or hoping for a sexual one. Finding a close friend like that, is hard to come by. But YOU have to be able to disconnect and treat him as if you were straight and he were straight. Wondering about him does you no good. If you can do this, so be it. If not, some distance will have to be created, as it seems you have more difficulty being around him than vice versa.
 
I haven't written one of these in a very long time, but here goes. I'm going against the grain (what else is new?) here. I don't think there is anything wrong with remaining friends and friends ONLY, even good friends. I don't screw around with my friends but I totally value their friendship and it will never go beyond that. But man, I do treasure my friendships. A couple of them are closer than family to me.
My best advice to you is to simply stop wishing for anything beyond a traditional, non fucking relationship and treat him as you would a good friend, nothing more, nothing less. A good friend, most of us (nonsexually speaking) we would do anything for and that doesn't need to change.
What does need to change, and forgive me if I am wrong, is you wishing it was more. Even if he is closeted and doesn't want to come out, or he is, in fact straight or whatever and potentially you misinterpret some things that you would like them to be, not how he meant them to be. Personally I'd never throw away a good friendship.
That said, in a wishing it were more sense, even though it never was, you have to emotionally detach YOUR feelings for him and begin to see others. You may simply be seeing what you want to see and he isn't really sending mixed signals or whatever. He trusts you as his friend, regardless of your sexuality, to be just that, his good friend, nothing more, nothing less. Stop wishing it were more and potentially stop seeing what isn't really there.
For what it's worth, I do agree with the others in one sense and that is his son and wife (or g/f I forget?). As his good friend, it's OK to love his son because he is your best friend. His wife or g/f (sorry too lazy to read back) is highly suspicious it seems of you being around her guy (and he is hers, whether you like that or not) or perhaps is aware of the flirtatious nature of your friendship with him and worries there is more to it. That's my take. You have to stop wondering and wishing there was more between the two of you for many reasons, one for you to stop wasting your own efforts and apply toward someone that IS available if you find or stumble on someone you like, two because it seems she is suspicious of you or both of you, three is he belongs to her at present and his son. That is reality man.
It's up to you if you can stop wishing it were more. To do that is difficult but not impossible. Stop wishing for what isn't and enjoy his friendship without more or hoping for a sexual one. Finding a close friend like that, is hard to come by. But YOU have to be able to disconnect and treat him as if you were straight and he were straight. Wondering about him does you no good. If you can do this, so be it. If not, some distance will have to be created, as it seems you have more difficulty being around him than vice versa.

So firstly I want to thank you for taking the time to respond . As I can see that took some effort and consideration on your part.

But what I have difficulty with is , the stock response all gay people tend to give each other .
a lot of you put the straight person on this perfect pedestal , where there behaviour is not questionable , and immediately they gay person is the ‘wrong’ one in the situation. The gay person is the predatory one , being so silly and deluded they are seeing things that are not there . It’s almost like a form of internalised homophobia that WE are always wrong and there’s not situation where a guy questioning how sexuality could be sending mixed signals and I can’t take that about this community sometimes .
It’s the automatic go-to that the gay guy is ‘seeing things they want to see’.
Even in the perspective of the girlfriend, you’ve made her suspicious of ‘Me’ ? Lol and I have to laugh , because I clearly said she leaves the room ,and HE begins to touch me .

This is borderline comparative to someone being sexually assaulted and the victim getting the blame .

HE’s the one who puts his hand up/down my pants and tells me how smooth and soft my legs are continuously.
HE’s the one who plays with my butt hairs
HE’s the one who asks for hundreds of photos of my feet
HE’s the one who constantly plays with my nipples
HE’s the one who’s always tryna pull down my pants when his gf isn’t looking
HE’s the one asking about my nudes and wanting to see my nude videos
HE’s the one asking to see videos of guys cummin on my face
HE’s the one always asking about the tightness of my asshole, making me prove it
HE’s the one rubbing my knees on car journeys and resting his hand on mine in private
HE’s the one who says he’s curious about my nude videos because I make them seem enticing.

I have on numerous occasions tried to be normal straight friends and even talk about straight sex, but nope , he wants to talk gay stuff . He is uncomfortable talking about girls/sex .

I’m honestly sick of being automatically told it’s all on my head . Because I’m not that stupid .
I’ve already said I’m happy to ignore his behaviour and create some distance , I’m just not going to be labelled the predator or wrong doer here.

So I will correct you, because you are wrong .