Are Guys More Comfortable Naked In The Locker Room Than They Used To Be?

Everywhere? Not exactly. If 3.8% is everywhere perhaps.

Americans Greatly Overestimate Percent Gay, Lesbian in U.S.



No it doesn't. The increased modesty shows up in other areas as well. Would any of the millennials wear for instance the swimwear that men wore in the 70's? They would freakout. The only acceptable men's swimwear today are those bloomer-style board shorts that have completely taken over men's swimwear.

I suspect the swimwear thing is mostly about fashion. Guys wear them because that's what everyone else is wearing.

As for me, I prefer Speedos...
 
I see many guys still wear skimpy swimwear. Pretty much all serious swimmers.

I think the gay or bi percentage is over ten percent. You can see studies pegging percent between 2% and 15%.

Even at 4% — they are everywhere. If one in every 25 guys is gay, yeah, that really is everywhere. And ultimately — so what.
 
As was mentioned in the article, how LGBTQ+++ is defined contributes strongly to the results.

I'm just glad that my life is such that I don't have to deal with either the locker room or swimsuit issues, save for my building's pool.
 
@AdamFin 4% is everywhere? Huum.

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What does that make the 96%? More than everywhere?

I suspect the swimwear thing is mostly about fashion. Guys wear them because that's what everyone else is wearing.

As for me, I prefer Speedos...

More than fashion. There is a vehement disgust for skimpy swimwear hence it's banishment from all but online shopping.
 
Yes, 4 percent is everywhere. It’s one out of 25.

Pretty much every class at college...

A hundred people at your gym... four gays...

Look at the parking lot at the grocery store — a few hundred cars... 8 gays.

There are 326,052,000 people in the US. At 4 percent that’s 1.306 million gays.

So, where exactly do you think gay people are not?

And I think the number of gays is double or triple that number.

It is true if you use gym showers, you’ve almost assuredly showered naked with someone gay.

Ninety-six percent is not more than everywhere. It is to state the obvious just a bigger percentage — I.e more.

Not for nothing what percentage would you deem “everywhere”?

Roughly half the swimmers at my gym wear either Speedos or super tight trunks that look like compression shorts but seem even tighter. These tend to be the serious swimmers. Guys like me who swim infrequently tend to wear the type you describe.
 
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the safe/unsafe touch emphasis has influenced this, as has the growing acceptance of homosexuality. Another factor is the growth in germ-related issues. I was in a locker room one time, shaving, with a towel hanging around my neck. Actually no one was there but me initially. A guy came in and said to me, "Would you mind covering that thing up? There are lots of unwanted germs around here." I couldn't believe it. When I grew up, locker rooms were meant to be places for nudity.
 
Forget the surveys. Forget how many gays, bisexuals, straights, old guys, young guys, races, or guys wearing Speedos there are in the locker room. When you strip nude everyone in the room will check you out with their own unique set of questions. It is called cognitive dissonance and it is basic to all human learning. (https://www.simplypsychology.org/piaget.html)

Everyone in the room will react to you with their own criteria. If they have seen you before, you may be just a blip on their radar. If you are new, interesting, or remind them of something, you will be processed against those thoughts.

Point being, you have no control over what other people are thinking. This is true when you are nude or when you have clothes on. So don’t worry about it. You are going to be judged no matter what you do so just get naked, take a shower, and be considerate of others.
 
@AdamFin 4% is everywhere? Huum.

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What does that make the 96%? More than everywhere?



More than fashion. There is a vehement disgust for skimpy swimwear hence it's banishment from all but online shopping.

On what do you base such a comment? Vehement disgust? Where? I don't see that at all.
 
the safe/unsafe touch emphasis has influenced this, as has the growing acceptance of homosexuality. Another factor is the growth in germ-related issues. I was in a locker room one time, shaving, with a towel hanging around my neck. Actually no one was there but me initially. A guy came in and said to me, "Would you mind covering that thing up? There are lots of unwanted germs around here." I couldn't believe it. When I grew up, locker rooms were meant to be places for nudity.

Wow. A dangling dick is germ danger? Maybe for a guy scared to have his own seen; maybe he’s scared to wash his dick carefully. I clean my dick, balls and taint really well. As do most men. I do confess I shave in a towel or underwear but not in a million years woukd I think to ask a naked shaver to cover. My hang up w naked shaving is it seems a bit too exhibitionist as opposed to utilitarian. But again I can care less about others doing it. Another guy’s nudity or lack of it in a locker room is never going to be my problem... I hate the idea anybody should control somebody else’s decision—in a locker room—as to when it’s time to pull up or down his underwear.
 
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Mixed experience this weekend...I was visiting friends in NC for a few days and decided to get a day pass at their gym...a co-ed YWCA. I was pleased to discover it had open showers. Open lap period ended, so the other male swimmer and I returned to the locker room and hit the showers. He was friendly and struck up a conversation with me, complaining about the schedule, etc. After I washed my upper body, I slipped off my speedo to rinse out my suit and proceed with downstairs cleaning. He seemed completely unfazed by my nudity, neither staring nor averting his eyes, just maintaining the conversation naturally. He never stripped his off, however, and turned away to briefly lower them and wash his junk. After showering, he faced the wall to drop his suit and wrap with the towel and use the ringer on his suit. As it turned out, we shared a locker cove so we continued our conversation. I had dropped my towel in a bin, so I was naked, but he was still wrapped in his. He started to put on his underwear with the towel still wrapped, so I expected a full towel dance, but he finally pulled it off so he could pull his underwear up.

It was interesting that he was completely comfortable seeing another dude's junk (my penis was in his field of view for 10 minutes or so in the shower and again in the locker area) but was quite modest about his own nudity (but not so modest as to not drop the towel at the end). He was probably a bit larger than average and definitely quite a bit larger than me, so size insecurity couldn't have been a factor.
 
Huh? See what? What vehement disgust? I don’t see that in what I said or what Sargon said.

Look at post #765 (the one I quoted above) - Sargon said, "More than fashion. There is a vehement disgust for skimpy swimwear hence it's banishment from all but online shopping."
 
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You try and get your average guy to wear a pair of close fitting, Speedoish bathing suit and that's just not going to happen. The women they want to attract well.....

98% of women hate partners wearing Speedos on the beach

98% of "British women" who were actually polled. And, for sure, many (most?) of those women may be in relationships with men who are overweight or otherwise unsuited for such attire.

But still, vehement disgust? A poor choice of words, in my opinion.
 
98% of "British women" who were actually polled. And, for sure, many (most?) of those women may be in relationships with men who are overweight or otherwise unsuited for such attire.

But still, vehement disgust? A poor choice of words, in my opinion.

It is what it is. No one wears them in the US market.

Macys lists 286 swimwear "items" for men of which just 3 could be called Speedoish. If that doesn't equal disgust I don't know what does. Vehement disgust may not have been strong enough actually ;)
 
Bull. Of course they do. Maybe you are in the wrong part of the US.

Yes the biggest department store sells 3 out of 286 styles. And it's the same story for most retailers. Must be some old Speedos you're looking at. Sounds like I'm in the "right part" of the US.
 
Say what he wants about what a particular retailer offers... Half of swimmers are in speedos or compression form fitting trunks at my Y. At least. And younger dudes are more likely to be in the Michael Phelps-skin-tight-type gear.

What a single US retailer sells is not evidence of anything.

Neither Walmart nor Target nor Kmart sell Nike sneakers but they are still tops BY FAR in the USA. That stat you can confirm walking down any street in the country.

The speedo and form fitting swim wear are still very much in vogue. MORE so than what I saw 20 years ago...
 
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