"bbc", "mandingo", Is It Racial Fetishization Of Black Men?

[Mount Phalic]

Agree with this. Slaves were bred and the strongest male was used as a "buck" to impregnate females. Slaves were worth a lot of money and children were sold on the auction block. They would often have mommy and daddy standing next to the children as a sign of what they will be like when they are adults then take the child away from the mother to go with his new owner.

And yes the ignorant uneducated slave owners equated genital size to fertility. They not only looked at his genitals while he stood there completely nude in the open but they would also touch him and palm his scrotum to feel the weight and size of his testicles. Can you imagine how humiliating this was? This is sexual objectification to me. You're specifically choosing a black male because of his genitals and for sexual purposes.

Contrary to popular folk lore, families were seldomly separated. The plantation owners preferred fathers, mothers, and children be kept together. The plantation owners could sell them if he wanted, but he had a tremendous stake in their mental as well as their physical well-being.

Most American plantation owners were well-heeled, educated gentlemen from England. Uneducated men could never afford to start or upkeep a plantation.

 

[HOU_HEADHUNTER]

Contrary to popular folk lore, families were seldomly separated. The plantation owners preferred fathers, mothers, and children be kept together. The plantation owners could sell them if he wanted, but he had a tremendous stake in their mental as well as their physical well-being.

Most American plantation owners were well-heeled, educated gentlemen from England. Uneducated men could never afford to start or upkeep a plantation.

History may lead us to believe that plantation owners were good men who cared about the welfare of their slaves but that's contrary to the enslavement of other human beings which is despicable. There may have been a few that had the money to purchase entire families but there were also a lot of poor slave owners that could only purchase one or two here and there and the sellers had no qualms about breaking up those families. The mental and physical well-being was not a factor for most of them and those particular traumas have been passed down from generation to generation. History has been changed to make things not seem as bad as they were and that's an issue I have with the history I was taught in school. It wasn't until I went to college and majored in Africana studies that my eyes were opened to the true history that has not been altered.

 

[Mount Phalic]

Of course slavery was a despicable institution. 90% of the black slaves sold into slavery by Africans and brought to the New World went to South America and the Caribbean. Owning slaves was a huge investment. It doesn't make any sense that landowners would not protect their investments

 

[HOU_HEADHUNTER]

Of course slavery was a despicable institution. 90% of the black slaves sold into slavery by Africans and brought to the New World went to South America and the Caribbean. Owning slaves was a huge investment. It doesn't make any sense that landowners would not protect their investments

A lot doesn't make sense my friend. Look at it like this. They cared only about the return on their investment but they surely didn't care about those black bodies to the point that they cared about their well-being. They cared how much work they could get out of those black bodies and that was all. I'm of the mindset in the mind of slave owners black people were expendable and this was more plausible by their actions. I don't want this to become a thread about slavery because that is not what the topic is. I do feel the need to challenge any form of diminishing the atrocities of slavery because I am black. I refuse to allow anyone to change the facts of history just as a Jewish person will not let others rewrite their history as it relates to the Holocaust.

 

[3HandsfulofDick]

Contrary to popular folk lore, families were seldomly separated. The plantation owners preferred fathers, mothers, and children be kept together. The plantation owners could sell them if he wanted, but he had a tremendous stake in their mental as well as their physical well-being.

Most American plantation owners were well-heeled, educated gentlemen from England. Uneducated men could never afford to start or upkeep a plantation.

Contrary to popular folk lore, families were seldomly separated. The plantation owners preferred fathers, mothers, and children be kept together. The plantation owners could sell them if he wanted, but he had a tremendous stake in their mental as well as their physical well-being.

Most American plantation owners were well-heeled, educated gentlemen from England. Uneducated men could never afford to start or upkeep a plantation.

I’ve never read such bullshit…

Of course slavery was a despicable institution. 90% of the black slaves sold into slavery by Africans and brought to the New World went to South America and the Caribbean. Owning slaves was a huge investment. It doesn't make any sense that landowners would not protect their investments

Of course slavery was a despicable institution. 90% of the black slaves sold into slavery by Africans and brought to the New World went to South America and the Caribbean. Owning slaves was a huge investment. It doesn't make any sense that landowners would not protect their investments

You are talking outside of your neck.. Tell me what Africans who sold prisoners into slavery have to do with whites treating and stating that blacks are less than human? What did the Africans have to do with African women being raped at will by white slave owners and watching their husbands and children being sold to other plantations ? What did the African have to do with whites using slave children as bait to trap alligators for their skin

The so called investments ( as you call it ) was breeding more slaves, the payoff came in the form of auctioning them off as if they are livestock. You believe the whitewash version of the history. I believe my great grandmother and great great uncle who were children of the African slave..Don’t use the African as your scapegoat to excuse the behavior and actions of the white slave owner

 

[Milkdudd]

Yes I am black so I am speaking as someone that has experienced this kind of fetishism a lot. I know that a lot of black men have just accepted it without question but isn't that a form of defeat? If someone wants to be labeled a "Big Black Cock" then more power to them but they should still be aware of the meaning behind it and know that it is a form of sexual objectification for someone else. You being a BBC to someone else does not change how that person may feel about black people in general in terms of their emotions, their intellect, and their humanness. You will be nothing more to them that a "black cock." I talk to many black men about this term especially if they call themselves this and you'd be surprised at how many never really gave it much consideration and they now feel differently about others hitting them up in apps calling them "BBC." Furthermore, I'm not belittling anyone that isn't trying to start trouble. You seem to think that I shouldn't care if other black men accept the term but that affects us all because nobody is asking us if its okay to just label all black men with this term. Since I don't see this conversation happening often from other black men, I feel that I should bring it up every chance I get. Being called a "BBC" is not a badge of honor. That's low hanging fruit if you ask me. We are so much more than that but if you are okay with it then that's fine. I on the other hand demand to be fully recognized for my humanness and not some part of my anatomy.

I feel that I've misunderstood where you were coming from, that's my mistake. I'm sorry for assuming. I'm really tired so I can't wuite fully engage rn about this, but I'm happy these kinds of questions are being asked. Sorry if I came off with a bit of a trigger finger, that was rude of me. Like I said, it's great that these sorts if things are being talked about. Thank you, bruh.

 

[Sagittarius84]

I’ve never read such bullshit…




You are talking outside of your neck.. Tell me what Africans who sold prisoners into slavery have to do with whites treating and stating that blacks are less than human? What did the Africans have to do with African women being raped at will by white slave owners and watching their husbands and children being sold to other plantations ? What did the African have to do with whites using slave children as bait to trap alligators for their skin

The so called investments ( as you call it ) was breeding more slaves, the payoff came in the form of auctioning them off as if they are livestock. You believe the whitewash version of the history. I believe my great grandmother and great great uncle who were children of the African slave..Don’t use the African as your scapegoat to excuse the behavior and actions of the white slave owner

The audacity...caucacity really...Those well mannered Englishmen were so motivated to protect their investments, they spent almost all their intellectual energy trying to convince detractors that slaves were less than human, chattel I believe the term was.

 

[Mount Phalic]

The audacity...caucacity really...Those well mannered Englishmen were so motivated to protect their investments, they spent almost all their intellectual energy trying to convince detractors that slaves were less than human, chattel I believe the term was.

Remind me again how an institution that dissolved 160 years ago has any bearing on today. BBC is a title like BWC. Mandingo is pure Hollywood fiction.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

Remind me again how an institution that dissolved 160 years ago has any bearing on today. BBC is a title like BWC. Mandingo is pure Hollywood fiction.

This isn't the first time I've read your comments on race and I always get a distinct vibe. The first sentence has such ignorance in it but I'm sure you wouldn't even entertain the thought of actually educating yourself about it.

 

[3HandsfulofDick]

The audacity...caucacity really...Those well mannered Englishmen were so motivated to protect their investments, they spent almost all their intellectual energy trying to convince detractors that slaves were less than human, chattel I believe the term was.

But

Remind me again how an institution that dissolved 160 years ago has any bearing on today. BBC is a title like BWC. Mandingo is pure Hollywood fiction.

This isn't the first time I've read your comments on race and I always get a distinct vibe. The first sentence has such ignorance in it but I'm sure you wouldn't even entertain the thought of actually educating yourself about it.

It’s quite simple. If you ain’t taught nothing you know nothing

 

[3HandsfulofDick]

Remind me again how an institution that dissolved 160 years ago has any bearing on today. BBC is a title like BWC. Mandingo is pure Hollywood fiction.

The only difference is that one is rooted in racism and the other is rooted in the hope one can compete with the former

 

[chesticles55]

The only difference is that one is rooted in racism and the other is rooted in the hope one can compete with the former

It isn’t “rooted in the hope one can compete with the former.” Not sure where you’re coming up with that. It’s a simple qualifier completely in vein of “BBC”. The reason you don’t see “BWC” as a genre is because it’s just labelled “big dick” or “monster cock” or whatever without racial qualification because white people aren’t a fetish and are considered the default in society. It’s only when it’s black that the race must be a point of emphasis.

I agree with your other statement though that it’s entirely racist and a bit shocking that people are willing to toss it around when in literally any other form of media or entertainment, it’d be immediately shut down. The porn industry can hide behind the veil of “well it sells well” and maybe it does (still a niche though). But it’s a chicken and egg situation as well. If it isn’t put out there and plastered everywhere for people to see, less people will develop it as a fetish and care to see it. Given today’s political climate, it’ll be interesting to see how much longer this nonsense can continue.

 

[Sagittarius84]

Remind me again how an institution that dissolved 160 years ago has any bearing on today. BBC is a title like BWC. Mandingo is pure Hollywood fiction.

Tablets dissolve. This was a centuries long institution upon which the foundations of our nation, our laws,, our economy, and our world domination was formed. I literally just learned last year from what region I hail from, and couldn't trace my ancestral home/ family without loads of disposable income or a National Geographic crew. The very notions of acceptable black sexuality are still in issue today, and may not be resolved for generations to come. These are not issues that just go away.

 

[Sagittarius84]

"Mandingo" was an attempt to romanticize the sexual terrorism of yesteryear into a more palatable form.
I wonder why in a nation where outdoor lunches are literally named for social events based around the humiliation/and butchering of lynching victims, complete with historically verified pictures and accounts, not to mention the literal collections of black body parts that exist in countless home collections, that somehow the thought such savagery spilled into the sexual realm is unthinkable.

 

[3HandsfulofDick]

It isn’t “rooted in the hope one can compete with the former.” Not sure where you’re coming up with that. It’s a simple qualifier completely in vein of “BBC”. The reason you don’t see “BWC” as a genre is because it’s just labelled “big dick” or “monster cock” or whatever without racial qualification because white people aren’t a fetish and are considered the default in society. It’s only when it’s black that the race must be a point of emphasis.

I agree with your other statement though that it’s entirely racist and a bit shocking that people are willing to toss it around when in literally any other form of media or entertainment, it’d be immediately shut down. The porn industry can hide behind the veil of “well it sells well” and maybe it does (still a niche though). But it’s a chicken and egg situation as well. If it isn’t put out there and plastered everywhere for people to see, less people will develop it as a fetish and care to see it. Given today’s political climate, it’ll be interesting to see how much longer this nonsense can continue.

Well considering there are very few companies featuring primarily black performers and yet they still generate a huge portion of porns billion dollar a year revenue, I will stick by my original statement

 

[HOU_HEADHUNTER]

The reason you don’t see “BWC” as a genre is because it’s just labelled “big dick” or “monster cock” or whatever without racial qualification because white people aren’t a fetish and are considered the default in society. It’s only when it’s black that the race must be a point of emphasis.

There is truth to this. I can tell you from experience as someone that worked in a porn shop while in college that the most popular genres were and still are "BBC" and "Interracial." A lot of porn that is based on race; specifically black male performers verged on inappropriate with some of the language and the stereotypes but this is what people were interested in. You'd also be surprised at the types of people that enjoyed this kind of porn. Poor working class to straight laced professionals enjoy "BBC" and "Interracial" porn.

Given today’s political climate, it’ll be interesting to see how much longer this nonsense can continue.

The porn industry isn't regulated. It's kind of a free for all so I don't know that it will change. When money is involved they will figure out a way to capitalize off of it. There will also be black male performers that will allow themselves to be cast in such roles because they are only thinking about the money they are making. It will take black performers to stop allowing themselves to be subjugated in such a way.

 

[chesticles55]

Well considering there are very few companies featuring primarily black performers and yet they still generate a huge portion of porns billion dollar a year revenue, I will stick by my original statement

Yes, it’s relatively popular. I don’t disagree. What’s your point? Doesn’t mean everyone is into it or even most people are. Incest, asian women and milfs are also popular. Doesn’t mean the majority of people are into each of them though.

There is truth to this. I can tell you from experience as someone that worked in a porn shop while in college that the most popular genres were and still are "BBC" and "Interracial." A lot of porn that is based on race; specifically black male performers verged on inappropriate with some of the language and the stereotypes but this is what people were interested in. You'd also be surprised at the types of people that enjoyed this kind of porn. Poor working class to straight laced professionals enjoy "BBC" and "Interracial" porn.

OK, yes it’s popular, but it doesn’t dominate the industry like some of you guys are making it out. Why do you think most of the most searched male porn stars on Pornhub (you can Google the stats) are white men? Because most people still prefer non IR. That’s not to say that IR isn’t popular. It is.

 

[HOU_HEADHUNTER]

@chesticles55 Who has really researched this? I saw first hand what was more popular by working in a store that sold porn. You can Google a lot of things but that doesn't mean it's factual. People make things up all the time and pass it off as fact and can easily put it online. I seriously doubt there is a credible study out there on "searched male porn stars." Stop with the nonsense. If you find something share it so we can discuss.

 

[chesticles55]

@chesticles55 Who has really researched this? I saw first hand what was more popular by working in a store that sold porn. You can Google a lot of things but that doesn't mean it's factual. People make things up all the time and pass it off as fact and can easily put it online. I seriously doubt there is a credible study out there on "searched male porn stars." Stop with the nonsense. If you find something share it so we can discuss.

There you go. Research done by the biggest porn site in the world from 2019 (wasn’t released in 2020). Not just some anecdote. Fact. Regardless, this is semi-off topic so whatever.

 

[3HandsfulofDick]

Yes, it’s relatively popular. I don’t disagree. What’s your point? Doesn’t mean everyone is into it or even most people are. Incest, asian women and milfs are also popular. Doesn’t mean the majority of people are into each of them though.

OK, yes it’s popular, but it doesn’t dominate the industry like some of you guys are making it out. Why do you think most of the most searched male porn stars on Pornhub (you can Google the stats) are white men? Because most people still prefer non IR. That’s not to say that IR isn’t popular. It is.

Considering that white men comprises the largest viewers and consumers of pornography(by far) are you surprised… That alone doesn’t support your argument.