"bbc", "mandingo", Is It Racial Fetishization Of Black Men?

Considering that white men comprises the largest viewers and consumers of pornography(by far) are you surprised… That alone doesn’t support your argument.
I have no argument with you. I agree with you. It is a very popular genre. I’m not denying that. But like any popular niche, the majority of people still won’t be into that specific niche.
 
There you go. Research done by the biggest porn site in the world from 2019 (wasn’t released in 2020). Not just some anecdote. Fact. Regardless, this is semi-off topic so whatever.
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Bravo. Now is this globally because then that would make a lot of sense. You found something to make you feel better about your stance but there are many variables that have to be considered. I still stand by what I experienced from working in a porn store. The biggest sellers were always BBC and Interracial porn. Most of the porn available online for free is also porn with mainstream performers so it would make sense that that those would be the most searched. If I were to search porn on pornhub right now, I could guarantee you that all of the porn would be with white performers. The only time a black performer would come up in a search is if it was specific to their name or their race so I would have to type something like "Ebony" just to get a selection with black entertainers so do you see why that pornhub graph is not very credible? Of course you will try to find a way to deny the facts but I'm interested in seeing how you will go about it. Oh and another thing a lot of those pornstars have been in the business for many years so their catalogue of porn is much more extensive making them much more searchable and available in searches. There are only a hand full of mainstream black entertainers and the pool of talent is limited not to mention many of them don't have an extensive catalogue of work.
 
Bravo. Now is this globally because then that would make a lot of sense. You found something to make you feel better about your stance but there are many variables that have to be considered. I still stand by what I experienced from working in a porn store. The biggest sellers were always BBC and Interracial porn. Most of the porn available online for free is also porn with mainstream performers so it would make sense that that those would be the most searched. If I were to search porn on pornhub right now, I could guarantee you that all of the porn would be with white performers. The only time a black performer would come up in a search is if it was specific to their name or their race so I would have to type something like "Ebony" just to get a selection with black entertainers so do you see why that pornhub graph is not very credible? Of course you will try to find a way to deny the facts but I'm interested in seeing how you will go about it. Oh and another thing a lot of those pornstars have been in the business for many years so their catalogue of porn is much more extensive making them much more searchable and available in searches. There are only a hand full of mainstream black entertainers and the pool of talent is limited not to mention many of them don't have an extensive catalogue of work.
Oh good lord. I don’t care about your insecure confirmation bias anecdotes. I presented you unbiased facts and it hurt your feelings. Sorry. Not interested in debating reality here. And once again, this is partially off topic anyways.
 
Oh good lord. I don’t care about your insecure confirmation bias anecdotes. I presented you unbiased facts and it hurt your feelings. Sorry. Not interested in debating reality here. And once again, this is partially off topic anyways.
lol you are hilarious guy. You are the one that is insecure here. You actually look up information concerning pornstar popularity that is not entirely accurate when you consider all of the different variables. You probably have a whole arsenal of information that you've pulled from online concerning penis size based on race because everything you've typed scream that you are that type of loser. If you don't like the discussion here you can remove yourself from it. Don't get mad when you post some bogus bs and then get called on it. You basically confirmed another person's post that said only white men are concerned about these kind of topics to the degree that they do research and feel the need to try to use it as proof to some belief that they have as if this were a competition. Black men simply don't care and I told you the fact of what is popular based on sales and rentals as someone that worked in a very popular porn store with rows and rows of porn but you got upset. If you can't talk without getting upset then you need not enter the convo. Tuck your tail between your legs and bow out like you know you want to.
 
lol you are hilarious guy. You are the one that is insecure here. You actually look up information concerning pornstar popularity that is not entirely accurate when you consider all of the different variables. You probably have a whole arsenal of information that you've pulled from online concerning penis size based on race because everything you've typed scream that you are that type of loser. If you don't like the discussion here you can remove yourself from it. Don't get mad when you post some bogus bs and then get called on it. You basically confirmed another person's post that said only white men are concerned about these kind of topics to the degree that they do research and feel the need to try to use it as proof to some belief that they have as if this were a competition. Black men simply don't care and I told you the fact of what is popular based on sales and rentals as someone that worked in a very popular porn store with rows and rows of porn but you got upset. If you can't talk without getting upset then you need not enter the convo. Tuck your tail between your legs and bow out like you know you want to.
Ok that’s cute, but that isn’t opinionated BS though. Those are publicly available facts anyone can check. Not a secret stash of mine. Just the most popular porn site on earth making their clicks public. Take it up with them.

I have to say, it’s comedic how the very people criticizing this phenomena (and even starting the thread) for racism (and rightfully so) are hypocritically attempting to aggrandize it and bolster it’s perceived popularity. I can only make sense of that by assuming insecurity and a warped sense of identity tied to it — which sadly rings true to the actual meaning of this thread.
 
Ok that’s cute, but that isn’t opinionated BS though. Those are publicly available facts anyone can check. Not a secret stash of mine. Just the most popular porn site on earth making their clicks public. Take it up with them.

I have to say, it’s comedic how the very people criticizing this phenomena (and even starting the thread) for racism (and rightfully so) are hypocritically attempting to aggrandize it and bolster it’s perceived popularity. I can only make sense of that by assuming insecurity and a warped sense of identity tied to it — which sadly rings true to the actual meaning of this thread.
lol you are the one that came into the convo with an agenda and then when you get questioned you get mad. Seems to me that you don't know how to communicate without getting emotional. Go to another thread and cry because this is not the place for you. I'm asking you to realize that things found online are not credible because there are many variables to consider. Anybody with common sense would know that. I need you to think more critically about the things you post since you try to pass yourself off as intelligent. If you come across stats there are a lot of questions that need to be asked because in most cases they are biased and a lot of times it is not intentional. You came into this thread with an agenda and a bunch of irrelevant stats and graphs to make yourself feel better about some perceived racism towards you and white people that you think is happening. You then get upset when myself and others challenge you on those findings since we understand them to be biased. You must've thought you were going to post lies and nobody would question the validity. PornHub is a major pornsite but that doesn't mean it's research can't be biased and inaccurate. Do you know how often people have supposedly done research and their research was incorrect. If you are not upset or insecure then why do you keep checking back for more. Your ego has been shattered and I'm sorry that you feel like you are being attacked.
 
lol you are the one that came into the convo with an agenda and then when you get questioned you get mad. Seems to me that you don't know how to communicate without getting emotional. Go to another thread and cry because this is not the place for you. I'm asking you to realize that things found online are not credible because there are many variables to consider. Anybody with common sense would know that. I need you to think more critically about the things you post since you try to pass yourself off as intelligent. If you come across stats there are a lot of questions that need to be asked because in most cases they are biased and a lot of times it is not intentional. You came into this thread with an agenda and a bunch of irrelevant stats and graphs to make yourself feel better about some perceived racism towards you and white people that you think is happening. You then get upset when myself and others challenge you on those findings since we understand them to be biased. You must've thought you were going to post lies and nobody would question the validity. PornHub is a major pornsite but that doesn't mean it's research can't be biased and inaccurate. Do you know how often people have supposedly done research and their research was incorrect. If you are not upset or insecure then why do you keep checking back for more. Your ego has been shattered and I'm sorry that you feel like you are being attacked.
You asked for proof. I gave it to you. You didn’t like it. You proceeded to write essays about what an idiot I am.

I’m sure you’ll take this as some sort of imaginary concession on my part, but I’m done big guy. But I’ll say this: attacking arguments and not people might serve you well in the future if you want to be taken seriously. Paragraphs help as well.
 
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You asked for proof. I gave it to you. You didn’t like it. You proceeded to write essays about what an idiot I am.

I’m sure you’ll take this as some sort of imaginary concession on my part, but I’m done big guy. But I’ll say this: attacking arguments and not people might serve you well in the future if you want to be taken seriously. Paragraphs help as well.
You did well by having something ready that was already saved but I had questions to it's validity. I don't really care about your stats because I know from experience what is true. All I said was to consider the variables and how those stats could be skewed and you got mad because you knew I was right. You don't want to think that far into it because it would prove those stats to be invalid.
 
You did well by having something ready that was already saved but I had questions to it's validity. I don't really care about your stats because I know from experience what is true. All I said was to consider the variables and how those stats could be skewed and you got mad because you knew I was right. You don't want to think that far into it because it would prove those stats to be invalid.
Of course you had questions to its validity…because you didn’t like it. What I provided is infinitely better than some vague anecdote about working at an adult store years ago that may or may not even be true. And is probably rife with confirmation bias. If you want to pick fights with pornhub about those stats, go ahead. What do I care? Don’t shoot the messenger. Keep attacking my character. Really shows how unbiased and mature you are.
 
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Of course you had questions to its validity…because you didn’t like it. What I provided is infinitely better than some vague anecdote about working at an adult store years ago that may or may not even be true. And is probably rife with confirmation bias. If you want to pick fights with pornhub about those stats, go ahead. What do I care? Don’t shoot the messenger. Keep attacking my character. Really shows how unbiased and mature you are.
lol bro I told you to consider all of the variables that make that graph inaccurate and biased and you shit a brick now you are mad at me because I told you about my real life experience and seeing what kind of porn was most popular. When it came to purchasing porn it was BBC and Interracial porn that was purchased the most and that's just the facts. I would have no reason to lie. Pornhub is a porn site that caters to certain demographics over others. If i was looking for decent porn with performers of color I wouldn't go to Pornhub for it. This is why I say it's biased. I'd much rather watch the amateur porn on Pornhub than the porn that they promote. I need you to recognize that most of those actors on that list are not in a subcategory. Ebony, BBC, Interracial are all subcategories that would mean they are not primary to the site and are just there for the sake of having diversity on the site. I'm really not arguing that those actors are highly searched but that doesn't not correlate with which kinds of porn are most popular it just means those performers are popular but you also have to consider that they work more and they are promoted more. If you are really as intelligent as you'd like us to believe you'd think more thoroughly about things you try to pass off as fact.
 
Yes it is. Serious studies on penis size prove that there's no correlation between skin color and penis size. The reality is also that African American dudes are often in such material conditions that becoming a sex worker becomes an option when they're hung, the same way African American transwomen, and women, sometimes turn to prostitution because they come from deprived homes, did not go to school. etc... My penis could be considered porn material, but I'm white - I'm bigger than most men, statistically, whatever their origins might be, although, of course, some men are bigger than I am. But as a white man, I've been priviliged, I've been to nice schools, I am considered highly skilled by society. I've considered porn, but I knew that what it would entail: being déclassé. I would lose my social status. Men who are hung, and poor, and have nothing to lose, are more likely to accept being erotized, and exoticed.
 
Yes it is. Serious studies on penis size prove that there's no correlation between skin color and penis size. The reality is also that African American dudes are often in such material conditions that becoming a sex worker becomes an option when they're hung, the same way African American transwomen, and women, sometimes turn to prostitution because they come from deprived homes, did not go to school. etc... My penis could be considered porn material, but I'm white - I'm bigger than most men, statistically, whatever their origins might be, although, of course, some men are bigger than I am. But as a white man, I've been priviliged, I've been to nice schools, I am considered highly skilled by society. I've considered porn, but I knew that what it would entail: being déclassé. I would lose my social status. Men who are hung, and poor, and have nothing to lose, are more likely to accept being erotized, and exoticed.
Very well put and what I personally believe to be the actual reason behind all of these “are black guys really bigger” BS type threads. White guys typically have more social standing to lose. They’re more likely to come from upper class areas that look down upon this sort of employment. A healthy portion of the black dudes in porn are perhaps not from such financially and culturally fortunate backgrounds. Prompting them to pursue careers where they feel they have something to offer and nothing to lose.
 
There you go. Research done by the biggest porn site in the world from 2019 (wasn’t released in 2020). Not just some anecdote. Fact. Regardless, this is semi-off topic so whatever.
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Geez, I don't even know half these guys...

Guess I'm not addicted to porn anyway... ;)
 
Pornhub is a porn site that caters to certain demographics over others.
Hmm, I'm pretty sure MindGeek (the owner of Pornhub - and currently the biggest porn company) cater to all demographics. tbh.

@HOU_HEADHUNTER , I'm not sure why you suddenly change the topic and start a personal infight. The statistics might hit a soft spot in your world view. You might want to believe in the BBC myth and that BBC porn is the most common porn niche. That both are incorrect doesn't change the validity of your original post.
 
Hmm, I'm pretty sure MindGeek (the owner of Pornhub - and currently the biggest porn company) cater to all demographics. tbh.

@HOU_HEADHUNTER , I'm not sure why you suddenly change the topic and start a personal infight. The statistics might hit a soft spot in your world view. You might want to believe in the BBC myth and that BBC porn is the most common porn niche. That both are incorrect doesn't change the validity of your original post.
I know it doesn't change the topic but I knew that the guy that shared those stats had an agenda and I wanted to point out the flaws in those stats. Even if Pornhub is considered the biggest porn company I would argue that it is not necessarily focused on all demographics equally. Of course it has all of the mainstream porn. My point was that you have to take such "statistics" with a grain of salt because there are many variables that you have to consider when you are researching something like that. When I speak on the popularity of BBC and Interracial porn I am only speaking from my own experience and what I saw and I am really only speaking in terms of what I know to be true in the United States. I know that this may not be true all over the world but in the United States it is most definitely true that certain genres are more popular. I'm pretty sure that the statistics posted by Pornhub were based on a global research which would make sense.
 
I know that this may not be true all over the world but in the United States it is most definitely true that certain genres are more popular. I'm pretty sure that the statistics posted by Pornhub were based on a global research which would make sense.
Agreed. And you guys definitely have some strange racial tendencies, issues and even fetishes...
 
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Yes, again. It is popular. No one is denying that. No one is arguing. But to say the majority of people (even in the US) are into it is simply a biased and insecurity related attempt to intensify it’s perceived prevalence.
 
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Agreed. And you guys definitely have some strange racial tendencies, issues and even fetishes...
I mean...you do know most of the progenitors of these things were European outcasts of some sort...it's not like the Indigenous folk here passed along their kinks and fetishes along with farming tips before smallpox and genocide could take them out..lol
 
Majority is a misnomer...considering the African American population is 13-14% of the population at best it is very disproportionate, and still majority consumed by non black folk.
Not to mention I've heard many an account from successful "bbc" or ebony fetish actors(resses) about how even when they try to start their own studios and production companies that portray a less fetishised view of black sexuality or interracial couplings, they fall short because no matter how popular they may be amongst black buyers, that 13-14% max available marketshare won't cut it, and the market at large(mostly white men) are not interested in black people on their pornography screens unless they are embodying the stereotypes they want.


Now, as a devils advocate, there is a particular sub genre of the BBC mythos in porn that makes me wonder if karma is at play, the especially gross niche of "BBC breeding"..where it seems a lot of what began as fetishism for black men by white women, results in brown babies and actual interracial relationships no longer defined by some mythos. I don't think the slave owners of yesteryear thought the walking talking dildo they owned way back when would evolve into the black man that very well could poach his wife and take over the family as his own.
It's a gross setup to be sure, but a deliciously ironic ending that seems to be more prominent everyday.