How many men are actually bisexual?

[FrankieGuile]

At least 90% of adult males based on visual stimulation alone in controlled lab studies.

So finding someone of the same sex as attractive is considered gay?

 

[FrankieGuile]

First I should define bisexuality as a sexual attraction/interest to both men and women. Not romantic attraction; only sexual; bisexual men can be heteromantic, biromantic, homoromantic or aromantic( actually majority will fall into first category- heteromantic bisexual). Bisexuality also is not only 50/50 split; guy can be 80% into women/men and 20% into men/women etc.
So basically since bisexuality was so misundestood as both romantic and sexual equal attraction only a big number of ppl were pushed into str8 or gay corner.

Poll from 2022 done on over 6000 British ppl (but I don't see a reason why the stats shouldn't be similar in US) found that 40% of gen Z responders expressed same sex attraction and 53% were exclusively attracted only to opposite gender. With baby boomers the number of fully str8 ppl was 77% ( overall 66% of responders id as fully str8).
The other side of that study found that 14% of gen Z identify as bi/pan, 2% as gay and 3% as lesbian.
And 2% of all responders id as asexual.

And here is an interesting thing
40% of gen Z expressed some type of same sex [sexual] attraction but "only" 14% identified as bi or pansexual.

Is it just that ppl even if they are sexually attracted to both genders refuse to label themselves as bi because bi is a part of LGBT and they don't want to be a part of that community?
So If that hypothesis is true then if we would remove B from LGBT then far more people would identify as such?

We are talking about men and the poll included women so its impossible to know how many of those 40% were men but I believe its rational to say that
20% of gen Z men are more or less bisexual. [The poll classify gen Z as ppl between 16 and 26 y.o].

If one thinks George Clooney is an attractive male but expresses no sexual desire for George Clooney, does the mere fact he thinks George Clooney is attractive make him gay? Somehow, I think the answer will be, "then he's lying about having no sexual desire for George Clooney." Why must the idea of finding someone attractive be conflated with a sexual desire for that person? Why must finding someone of the same sex attractive automatically mean you are homosexual and, therefore, lying about your heterosexuality?

 

[halcyondays]

So finding someone of the same sex as attractive is considered gay?

Not at all. The lab studies have strict experimental controls and test only for sexual physiological response to visual stimulation only.

Individual results vary but those who thought they were 100% straight or gay might discover they're not.

 

[FrankieGuile]

Not at all. The lab studies have strict experimental controls and test only for sexual physiological response to visual stimulation only.

Individual results vary but those who thought they were 100% straight or gay might discover they're not.

Then the "lab studies" you reference have no bearing on one's sexual preference, but merely, what people find visually attractive. Your inference that "those who thought they were 100% straight or gay might discover they're not" is completely disconnected from those studies and belongs in the realm of wishful thinking on your part.

 

[halcyondays]

Then the "lab studies" you reference have no bearing on one's sexual preference, but merely, what people find visually attractive. Your inference that "those who thought they were 100% straight or gay might discover they're not" is completely disconnected from those studies and belongs in the realm of wishful thinking on your part.

I have never expressed "wishful thinking" of any kind in this thread. That's your rhetoric based on your bias. I'm not attached to what any individual considers their sexual preference at any given point in their life.

What I have reported is specific lab studies going back over 30 years now which shows that 90 percent plus of test subjects have some sexual physiological response to at least some in both sexes based on visual stimulation only.

 

[FrankieGuile]

I have never expressed "wishful thinking" of any kind in this thread. That's your rhetoric based on your bias. I'm not attached to what any individual considers their sexual preference at any given point in their life.

What I have reported is specific lab studies going back over 30 years now which shows that 90 percent plus of test subjects have some sexual physiological response to at least some in both sexes based on visual stimulation only.

...and your conclusion that "those who thought they were 100% straight or gay might discover they're not" reveals your particular bias. I stand by my remarks and believe my characterization of your wishful thinking is accurate. In the unbiased world, the study only concludes that people of one sex can find other people of the same-sex attractive. That result is hardly momentous and worthy of publication in a scientific periodical called, "Duh."

 

[halcyondays]

...and your conclusion that "those who thought they were 100% straight or gay might discover they're not" reveals your particular bias. I stand by my remarks and believe my characterization of your wishful thinking is accurate. In the unbiased world, the study only concludes that people of one sex can find other people of the same-sex attractive. That result is hardly momentous and worthy of publication in a scientific periodical called, "Duh."

If it's "hardly momentous and worthy of publication in a scientific periodical" in your opinion then no science study is.

 

[FrankieGuile]

If it's "hardly momentous and worthy of publication in a scientific periodical" in your opinion then no science study is.

That's an odd takeaway but, considering your original odd takeaway, perhaps not so odd for you. And, if you're going to quote, then finish the quote to avoid perverting the quote as you did. The quote was "hardly momentous and worthy of publication in a scientific periodical called, "Duh" (italics added for emphasis). But I appreciate your finding my words quote-worthy.

 

[curtain_swoosh]

the notion, that we cant find other people of the same sex attractive without wanting to fuck them, is really dumb.

im pretty sure alot of straight men found brad pitt or JD or some soccer player bk in the day, to be good looking without jerking off to them.
even nowadays with other people like.

same goes with girls.

 

[halcyondays]

That's an odd takeaway but, considering your original odd takeaway, perhaps not so odd for you. And, if you're going to quote, then finish the quote to avoid perverting the quote as you did. The quote was "hardly momentous and worthy of publication in a scientific periodical called, "Duh" (italics added for emphasis). But I appreciate your finding my words quote-worthy.

Duh? Spoken like a true adolescent--or a fully grown man-child.

Want duh? I'll give you duh--

A scientific investigation which shows tha same result for 30+ years doesn't care about your opinion.

Nor has it or does it say that "finding someone of the same sex attractive is considered gay."

In case you've forgotten this is a thread about bisexuality not what is considered gay.

Duh.

 

[deleted19462351]

Trying to follow what's going on here it's really something, like I don't even know what's going on anymore.

 

[FrankieGuile]

Trying to follow what's going on here it's really something, like I don't even know what's going on anymore.

The study revealed to no one's surprise that men can find other men attractive. The poster perverted that simple finding to suggest it meant that most men, or at least those men, were homosexual -- or, if one is splitting hairs -- bisexual. That is what is going on.

 

[deleted19462351]

Also I've been encountering more and more guys who only been with girls but decided to try guys and liked it (my most recent hook up for example) like they want a bud who can also have sex with them.
Shit like this would have been very helpful to me 10 or even 5 years ago.

 

[FrankieGuile]

Also I've been encountering more and more guys who only been with girls but decided to try guys and liked it (my most recent hook up for example) like they want a bud who can also have sex with them.
Shit like this would have been very helpful to me 10 or even 5 years ago.

That is not to say that there has been some surge in homosexuality or bisexuality as many here think. Nor does it mean there has always been a large portion of the population that is homosexual or bisexual who are now more comfortable identifying and acting on their sexual preference as many here think. It could simply be that 10, or even five, years ago, that for whatever reasons, you were not attracting the attention of men seeking a same-sex experience and now you are.

 

[Sneaky91]

I'm convinced that mostly everyone is bi to some degree, with a minority being 100% gay or straight. Society just hasn't caught up to that yet, and we persist with the norm.

 

[FrankieGuile]

I'm convinced that mostly everyone is bi to some degree, with a minority being 100% gay or straight. Society just hasn't caught up to that yet, and we persist with the norm.

You might be convinced but extensive surveys and many millions of straight men would disagree with you. It never ceases to amaze me how some men delude themselves thinking other men secretly want a what they want, and if they don't secretly want it, then it's only a matter of time that they'll want it.

 

[Sneaky91]

You might be convinced but extensive surveys and many millions of straight men would disagree with you. It never ceases to amaze me how some men delude themselves thinking other men secretly want a what they want, and if they don't secretly want it, then it's only a matter of time that they'll want it.

Ah yes...because everyone tells the absolute truth in surveys.

Also, I never said their wasn't straight men, I said I believe that straights and gays are actually the minority...you know, an opinion. I'm allowed have one.

I'm not deluding myself of anything, again, read my points above.

Or continue to go off, I guess. You do you!

 

[deleted19462351]

I feel like there's a point in your life when you just know it (about other people) like I pick certain cues, tones and so and so far I haven't been wrong about other bi guys.

 

[bi2]

Ah yes...because everyone tells the absolute truth in surveys.

Yes i agree.

Ive been with my current fuckbuddy for a few years now, while we are bi, we both view ourselves as straight.For starters, we have absolutely nothing to gain whatsoever being open about it. If anything being private and discrete has made the sex hotter and a lot more intimate. Neither of us are seeking an emotional connection.

Surveys are never 100% accurate.

 

[FrankieGuile]

Ah yes...because everyone tells the absolute truth in surveys.

Also, I never said their wasn't straight men, I said I believe that straights and gays are actually the minority...you know, an opinion. I'm allowed have one.

I'm not deluding myself of anything, again, read my points above.

Or continue to go off, I guess. You do you!

So that is your reasoning for declaring all men, or a vast majority of men, as bisexual? Because they are lying? It is well accepted that the vast majority of men are straight -- and to avoid doubt -- meaning that they never have had, never would have, and never will have a sexual desire for another man. To content otherwise is lying to yourself.