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How many men are actually bisexual?
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Must be nice having so much free time to spend it arguing over non existent issues and shit that doesn't matter.
Also the only pretentious person I see it's yourself.
Also the only pretentious person I see it's yourself.
It's alway sad when a poster resorts to fowl language in order to duck a well-considered, articulate response. I must have ruffled your tail-feathers. However, the cartoon quacked me up.
I'm with you on the shaved thing! I 've been told I have a beautiful cock by men and women. Average and cut so it looks good Without Curlies.
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On the two occasions that a guy has sucked my cock, both have complimented me on the smoothness. And given I'm not "huge", I think it brings a little extra eroticism to the table for an otherwise normal cock on an older guy.
I have a very strong desire to have sex with men, but oddly seldom find them attractive in public. The act of ducking a cock or getting fucked in the ass makes me hard as a rock. Not really sure of the psychology of that?
No clue would guess that 15-25% could be placed beyond Kinsey 0.
Based on my high school class of 30 with 9 guys and 21 girls there was 1 openely bi guy, 3 guys that I heavily suspect were closeted bis (one of them know what MEN.com is lol), me another closeted bi and rest were straight.
Based on my high school class of 30 with 9 guys and 21 girls there was 1 openely bi guy, 3 guys that I heavily suspect were closeted bis (one of them know what MEN.com is lol), me another closeted bi and rest were straight.
Why rely on your personal observation of a sample size of nine men (because, after all, the original question excluded female bisexuality) when many, many more robust and statistically significant studies are available? Is it because most of those studies do not support percentages as high as 15% to 25% that you plucked out of thin air?
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I feel the same way. I go for periods where I’m only interested in women and even feel a little guilty about my attraction to dick but the urge always returns.
What is truly unclear, is the number of men who would have at leas one same-sex relationship in their life if all stigma was removed. I don't doubt at the end of the day a significant number of bi me would end up married with kids and a wife…… but I think if we could truly remove the stigma of homophobia from society, quite a few of those men would've had some boyfriends during their dating years. Just my opinion.
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I agree. If the stigma wasn’t there I’d have had publicly shown my bi side.
It is "truly unclear" because you posit a counterfactual -- how does one prove what is not observed? By the same token, it is "truly unclear" how much more broccoli would be consumed if it tasted like ice cream, pizza and Coca-Cola all rolled into one delicious vegetable. Just challenging the logic of your opinion.
I mean, you're comparison is more than a little silly here. The original hypothetical seemed perfectly logical and rational to me. This is not some perfect syllogism by any means but it's just making a point.
Premise 1: Stigma and homophobia exists in society against men in open homosexual relationships.
Premise 2: Men remain in the "closet" due to fear of ostracization if seen in an open homosexual relationship
Conclusion: If homophobia were eliminated from society, more closeted men would be fine being seen in open homosexual relationships.
How is that post comparable to "broccoli being rolled into tasting like some combination of flavors in some hypothetical world" exactly? Please explain how this comparison is similar in logic
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Premise 1: Ice cream, pizza and Coca-Cola taste better than broccoli to most people.
Premise 2: Broccoli is a healthy food choice that would be more acceptable if it tasted better.
Conclusion: It's the same leap of logic, twisting reason to justify a world of more homosexuals than actually existing. Why? I don't know. But I don't think the pretense of a larger club means a more valid club.
First of all: Invalid. You don't even have a conclusion clearly.
Secondly: No... it is NOT the same "leap" in logic. The only thing twisting here, is you! Trying to be willfully obtuse about a very obvious reality of the world.
The argument of the post you're defending for reasons unknown is something of a tautology. As such, it should be dismissed as inconsequential like other tautologies. I respect the poster for qualifying it as his opinion, and then, I have mine, which I have stated clearly.
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I'm much the same. I do find visual attraction with younger guys (65 here). Now if I go to a cruise park... For some reason I dismiss my much stricter visual attraction rules for the need of the act itself. Some here (one in particular) have a hard time with folks calling themselves straight or even bi curious when they want or have had another cock. Means nothing to anyone. The last 2 cocks I sucked (and sucked me) were men in straight relationships who called themselves curious.
Some folks find it disingenuous to call oneself straight when one's actions say they are not. Some folks find it a denial of one's true self. But, some folks understand the fantasy aspect of one man believing he can seduce a straight man, or believing the world is filled with straight men whose latent non-straightness is suppressed by homophobia which will be aroused eventually. Some folks think that belief is poppy-cock and it is better to simply believe in one's own identity and stand by one's choices without projecting that identity and those choices onto others.
