Interracial Relationships

[EquusAZ]

So what... you would have people sleep with people they don’t find attractive? That sounds like a great solution. Let’s force people to have mediocre, or even bad, unfulfilling sex.

that’s not racism. That’s adhering to one's own standards for attraction.

The more productive conversation here is examining why someone likes or dislikes someone of another race. Is it because they don't conform to your needs/wants/desires? Ok, if so, then why? What about them is not attractive and what is the reasoning behind it. If the answer is 'because they are of another race' examining where that dislike comes from helps determine if the reasoning is racist or not. More than likely the influence itself is rooted in racism.

Growing up in a white family, with mostly white friends, logic dictates that since that was my exposure that should be where my attraction lies. That would be true if as an individual I didn't examine my own reasoning and act in a self-aware fashion and think about people not as objects or things to be attracted to but as individuals.

Examining what you find attractive in someone as an individual helps identify traits that are common across all races and stops you from making broad assumptions based on race.

If we just think along the lines of basic carnal traits, big dick, nice tits, great ass, those can be found anywhere. Doesn't matter the race. Maybe something more PG like a smile? How about sultry eyes? Best of all a vibrant personality?? Again, not racial traits. I think we can all agree that those traits are things someone might find attractive. Where it goes from being something you find attractive and racially-based phobia/hate is when you lump a trait to someone of a different race based on a racially perceived trait (perceived). That's when racist tendencies come out and why people are calling others out.

Its said that the most stimulating organ in the human body is our own brain and how we see/interpret things. Understanding where / why we feel some way to help shed light into also how we think and act towards others and help us connect sexually as well as personally with other people.

 

[deleted848353]

It didn’t need fixing. It’s a fact. Larger white women are more common to be with black men

I'm a plus size woman and I dont go for black men usually so you might want to change that to some larger women

 

[sodominsane]

Like Mitch McConnell?

He’s a turtle

 

[sodominsane]

Lol. U mad big girl

For the record

Ive seen pics

not a big girl at all, quite fit and on the hot side

not that that’s at all relevant on the convo

But if you want to insult , it’s better to pick a more on point.

cause calling someone with a body most of us would die for a big girl,
Doesn’t really hurt the target, alienates you from anyone who ever struggled with pounds, makes you look like a jerk and clouds message

 

[Fishsqueezee69]

I think he’s referring to excluding a whole race because you find them ugly.

This is exactly my point.

 

[Fishsqueezee69]

I’m afraid I just have to disagree here. I don’t believe you can ever say to someone “you like what you like because you’ve been taught to like it, and you need to re-teach yourself to change your likes because it’s currently wrong.”

It’s possible to have a racial preference when it comes to sex and still show not only tolerance and acceptance of other races, but be on equal, good terms with other races—I’m living proof of that.

and while I agree that hate CAN be taught... you have to consider WHO is doing the teaching.

for example, if a person were to grow up in a white-supremacist household, it’s very clear that they were taught by their close family to hate people who are not white, and it’s very clear that the family is ultimately responsible for that persons hate.

now, take an example of a white child, who gets robbed by a black person at an early age. That person then develops a understandable, albeit irrational fear of black people altogether, and then perhaps transfers that mistrust to their children, and so on. In that case, the culprit is the individual(s) who sowed those seeds of mistrust to begin with.

this happens all the time—don’t believe me? There are TONS of black people have who have an irrational (albeit, yet again, completely understandable) fear and mistrust of white people, all because of the events that have happened in America over the last 200 years.

I feel absolutely terrible that there are black people who feel this way—they shouldn’t have to. But in this case, I wouldn’t call them “bigoted” for it. I would say they had an experience (or their parents or grandparents, etc) where a white person probably sowed that seed of mistrust, and now that seed has grown.

And the solution is not to come at them aggressively and say “no you’re wrong, and you’re terrible for thinking that way.” The solution is to SHOW them they are wrong... I show them I can be trustworthy, and a genuinely good person who is not simply out to get them.

self-reflection needs to be a two way street. If one person simply tries to force ownership of the problem onto another, that’s only going to be met defensively with contention.

I feel the main impasse here is that you keep insisting it is ok to have a sexual attraction exclusively towards a specific race but thay doesn't mean you dont see that race as anything but equals. That is just not true.

If you dont find someone attractive, you find them unattractive and by your own admission, unattractive = ugly. You find whites to be attractive. You think blacks, Hispanics and Asian men are unattractive. They are ugly. Thats the problem I have with this whole racial attraction.

To make matters worst, you have also admitted that external features not always predict race. If external features are not predictive of race why even bother having a sexual attraction? Why not specifically point out what you like in a person?

I just dont get that mentality.

 

[deleted464787]

If you dont find someone attractive, you find them unattractive and by your own admission, unattractive = ugly. You find whites to be attractive. You think blacks, Hispanics and Asian men are unattractive. They are ugly. Thats the problem I have with this whole racial attraction.

I want to to read what I quoted of you very closely.

THIS. IS. FALSE.

YOU ARE LYING.

PLEASE STOP.

I do not find all white people attractive. And I do not find all non-white people unattractive.

Once again, I have already said this many times before.

until you get that through your head, this conversation will go absolutely nowhere. I don’t know how many times I have to repeat it, but it’s simply not true.

 

[deleted464787]

I feel the main impasse here is that you keep insisting it is ok to have a sexual attraction exclusively towards a specific race but thay doesn't mean you dont see that race as anything but equals. That is just not true.
.

there are close friends of mine who I hang out with every day, and the thought of having sex with them has never crossed my mind. Are me and them not equals?

there are people I work with at my job who I have never had any sexual thoughts about. Nonetheless, I work with them and spend an enormous portion of my week around them cooperating, and doing teamwork. Are we all not equals?

You don’t have to have sex with someone, or date them to treat them as equals. You are working under a false pretense here.

 

[deleted1168963]

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Interesting, no opportunity

Asians are the most common people in the world, they make up like 50 percent of world population, so it’s not like they are a rare find

I grew up an Air Force brat and there were no asians on any of the last two high schools i want to. My college and my house is basically in the middle of South Jersey. Again very few asians around here

 

[Fishsqueezee69]

I want to to read what I quoted of you very closely.

THIS. IS. FALSE.

YOU ARE LYING.

PLEASE STOP.

I do not find all white people attractive. And I do not find all non-white people unattractive.

Once again, I have already said this many times before.

until you get that through your head, this conversation will go absolutely nowhere. I don’t know how many times I have to repeat it, but it’s simply not true.

You are in a minority here. I think most ppl in this thread agree it is racist to have a racial dating preference. I am simply trying to help you understand our point of view.

You keep dancing around the main issue by making completely tangential arguments about attraction etc. Every time I try to argue a point your counter point is almost always a tangential argument.

You find black women ugly and I am sure you find black men ugly as well, otherwise why do you have a racial preference in dating? If you, like me, didnt give a rat ass about race (as you claim) why do you care so much about someone's race when dating? Or for even sex?

You can think whatever you want and justify your racialized world view in whatever way you want but you can't tell me what to think and as a minority I am telling you that what we think when we meet someone who says "sorry I only date white people " is "sorry I only think whites are hot, you brown boy not so much".

Justifying it is not going to change anything and since most racist ppl dont give a shit what minorities think I am sure this argument will not persuade you. That goes to show your true colors.

Have you ever had sex with someone who is not white? I am curious

 

[deleted464787]

You find black women ugly and I am sure you find black men ugly as well, otherwise why do you have a racial preference in dating?

where the hell are you getting your information from? Who said I find black men and black women ugly?

I find SOME black men and women unattractive. But I also find SOME white men and women unattractive.

Can someone who is reading this thread explain this to him? I don’t think he’s hearing it when I say it for some reason.

Your doublespeak is terrible... you’re trying to paint a narrative about me that is not true.

please stop lying.

Have you ever had sex with someone who is not white? I am curious

yes I have. I’ve stated that explicitly many times throughout several threads.

the fact that your asking that question after all this time worries me that you aren’t even reading my posts.

 

[deleted464787]

You are in a minority here. I think most ppl in this thread agree it is racist to have a racial dating preference.

1). “Argument as populum “ is a logical fallacy. Just because something is widely believed doesn’t make it right or true.

2). I’m not so certain the statement is correct to begin with. Plenty of people have responded to these threads saying it is not racist. I’m not sure where you got your data from to carelessly make such a claim.

 

[Nigel Atkinson]

This is exactly my point.

That’s what I thought. That part was being ignored in his response

 

[sodominsane]

I grew up an Air Force brat and there were no asians on any of the last two high schools i want to. My college and my house is basically in the middle of South Jersey. Again very few asians around here

Wow even more odd

not doubting you but

I grew up army brat,
And then was in army. We had tons of Asians around us . Lots of army guys from the Philippines, and a lot of kids from war brides from korea and nam.

I am surprised that the Air Force is so different

 

[Fishsqueezee69]

1). “Argument as populum “ is a logical fallacy. Just because something is widely believed doesn’t make it right or true.

2). I’m not so certain the statement is correct to begin with. Plenty of people have responded to these threads saying it is not racist. I’m not sure where you got your data from to carelessly make such a claim.

1) at the risk of sounding childish, I dont care
2) The # of likes you are getting on your posts.

 

[deleted464787]

1) at the risk of sounding childish, I dont care
2) The # of likes you are getting on your posts.

oh please... everyone knows the likes you guys are getting on your posts are from the same handful of people every time, giving each other a “circle jerk of likes” because, apparently if you like someone’s post, that makes them win the argument. ::eye roll::

Also, there have been hundreds of posts that I agree with on this forum, yet I don’t believe I have ever hit the like button on anyone’s post before. I just don’t see a point to it. So I wouldn’t say that’s the best indicator.

 

[Fishsqueezee69]

oh please... everyone knows the likes you guys are getting on your posts are from the same handful of people every time, giving each other a “circle jerk of likes” because, apparently if you like someone’s post, that makes them win the argument. ::eye roll::

Also, there have been hundreds of posts that I agree with on this forum, yet I don’t believe I have ever hit the like button on anyone’s post before. I just don’t see a point to it. So I wouldn’t say that’s the best indicator.

Ok

 

[deleted464787]

Ok

sooooo... do you care to acknowledge about you lying about the fact that I find all Black people ugly?

or are we just going to ignore that and sweep it under the rug now, And hope it goes away now that I called you out on it?

 

[Call_Me_Dave]

It didn’t need fixing. It’s a fact. Larger white women are more common to be with black men

Sources?

 

[Titanfall1]

Black guy hopeless attracted to white guys. There’s a trainer at my gym I’m really starting to fall for but I’m too nervous to say anything to him and it seems Vice versa. scared or rejection or him being “I only like white guys.”

advice please