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lovinglife said:
Because I havent asked to have sex? Man, this thought must be blowing your mind right now.
No, being a virgin means I havent had sex. Not that I have been rejected. I am not going through life looking for sex, I am going through life and hoping to pick up a partner to spend my life with somewhere along the way. Once I move to a more permanent location I will pursue this more actively.
ok? Enjoy having no personality and looking unfriendly by not smiling then. I dont really care. Some of the most masculine men on this earth smile a lot (MMA fighters, boxers, football players). I doubt your science.
No, telling a guy that has no emotion or personality to smile more is telling him to do something he isnt good at.
Deepness of voice is based on vocal cords. Standing with a better posture is better for everybody. Staring people down has to do with personality. You can change personality to stare people down.
You... don't know what I look like entirely. I have never before been called a feminine twink before. I actually am getting a bit irritated that you keep saying that.
Mother of god you are dumb. I am friends with them because a guy can be friends with a girl. Most of them are coworkers and you should know you dont mess around with coworkers.
For one, I have had a history of self confidence issues (that are completely unrelated to how I look). Second, sex isnt my main motivation when I pursue a woman.
What in the hell is incel?
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You are an incel, it means involuntary celibate basically if you are not able to get laid with a women you find attractive ( which you haven't ever done ) then you are an incel.


Most men are incel's yet it is almost impossible for a women to be incel, most women are vocel (which means they voluntarily are not having sex)




Also I do not believe your claims that, you are a virgin because your looking for a life partner and not looking for sex. You claim your not looking for sex, yet you have videos and pictures of yourself masturbating, clearly if you are masturbating it means that you do want sex, you are just not able to get it.



Also I can tell that you look feminine and like a twink by looking at your physique and looking at your posts and by your experience with women.




Masculine men are less politically correct, they are less agreeable, they are less following the status quo, and they are less friendly but more dominant around women.


Which you do not portray.

Study: Less Masculine Men Are More PC-whipped | VDARE.com

Also women during their most fertile period and during ovulation which is when they're sex drive is higher ( but still lower then a man's normal sex drive ) prefer masculine men.


BBC Science | Human Body & Mind | Facial Prejudice: Face and Personality


The reason why women prefer masculine men when they are most fertile is they want to get the best possible genes to impregnate them with masculine strong genetics.


The reason why when women go on birth control they prefer more feminine looking men ( keep in mind that women have been preferring feminine looking men for a few decades now as birth control is more widely used. Compare top male actors of the 50's to today and the men used to be more masculine back then. )


The reason for this is that when a women is not as fertile her sex drive is low, she doesn't really want sex, she want's a friendly guy to be her provider and take care of her kids.



Basically a women when she wants sex and is at her horniest, she wants a masculine stud to fuck her hard and impregnate her, then when she is not horny she wants a feminine guy to take care of the kid with her and provide for her.


Also smiling reduces masculinity, personality is actually hardwired with genetics and hormones again.



A masculine looking guy, chances are will have a masculine personality, he will like sports, weight lifting, going fishing or hunting, not be politically correct, would be willing to fight, has a higher sex drive, is more dominant and not friendly with women, doesn't make as many facial expressions.


A feminine looking guy, chances are will have a feminine personality, he will like arts, tv drama's, being politically correct and supporting feminism and gay right groups, going to hangout with females in asexual relationships, and try to avoid fights, but still start drama, and make many face expressions.


Smiling reduces masculinity: principal component ... [Perception. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI

Look at that study.
 
RippedStaten said:
You are an incel, it means involuntary celibate basically if you are not able to get laid with a women you find attractive ( which you haven't ever done ) then you are an incel.


Most men are incel's yet it is almost impossible for a women to be incel, most women are vocel (which means they voluntarily are not having sex)




Also I do not believe your claims that, you are a virgin because your looking for a life partner and not looking for sex. You claim your not looking for sex, yet you have videos and pictures of yourself masturbating, clearly if you are masturbating it means that you do want sex, you are just not able to get it.



Also I can tell that you look feminine and like a twink by looking at your physique and looking at your posts and by your experience with women.




Masculine men are less politically correct, they are less agreeable, they are less following the status quo, and they are less friendly but more dominant around women.


Which you do not portray.

Study: Less Masculine Men Are More PC-whipped | VDARE.com

Also women during their most fertile period and during ovulation which is when they're sex drive is higher ( but still lower then a man's normal sex drive ) prefer masculine men.


BBC Science | Human Body & Mind | Facial Prejudice: Face and Personality


The reason why women prefer masculine men when they are most fertile is they want to get the best possible genes to impregnate them with masculine strong genetics.


The reason why when women go on birth control they prefer more feminine looking men ( keep in mind that women have been preferring feminine looking men for a few decades now as birth control is more widely used. Compare top male actors of the 50's to today and the men used to be more masculine back then. )


The reason for this is that when a women is not as fertile her sex drive is low, she doesn't really want sex, she want's a friendly guy to be her provider and take care of her kids.



Basically a women when she wants sex and is at her horniest, she wants a masculine stud to fuck her hard and impregnate her, then when she is not horny she wants a feminine guy to take care of the kid with her and provide for her.


Also smiling reduces masculinity, personality is actually hardwired with genetics and hormones again.



A masculine looking guy, chances are will have a masculine personality, he will like sports, weight lifting, going fishing or hunting, not be politically correct, would be willing to fight, has a higher sex drive, is more dominant and not friendly with women, doesn't make as many facial expressions.


A feminine looking guy, chances are will have a feminine personality, he will like arts, tv drama's, being politically correct and supporting feminism and gay right groups, going to hangout with females in asexual relationships, and try to avoid fights, but still start drama, and make many face expressions.


Smiling reduces masculinity: principal component ... [Perception. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI

Look at that study.
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As to the title of the thread. I'm sorry, but you have no fucking clue.
 
Your content has been tracked from your spin off thread and it means no offense, i tried and offered you good advise so the rest is up to you.
 
RippedStaten said:
You are an incel, it means involuntary celibate basically if you are not able to get laid with a women you find attractive ( which you haven't ever done ) then you are an incel.

Most men are incel's yet it is almost impossible for a women to be incel, most women are vocel (which means they voluntarily are not having sex)
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1) I am not "incel"
2) Women can be "incel", there are plenty of 19-20 year old virgin females that are attractive but dont get laid because of a number of reasons. Some psychological.

Also I do not believe your claims that, you are a virgin because your looking for a life partner and not looking for sex. You claim your not looking for sex, yet you have videos and pictures of yourself masturbating, clearly if you are masturbating it means that you do want sex, you are just not able to get it.
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How I am online vs how I am in real life are essentially two different people. What I do online is releasing some of my inhibitions. I masturbate because I like orgasms. I want my sex to be meaningful though, I want to make love.

Also I can tell that you look feminine and like a twink by looking at your physique and looking at your posts and by your experience with women.
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I have very broad shoulders and I am quite tall. I am thin because of metabolism and the fact that I don't work out much. I don't tan because I am a ginger and don't go outside much.

Masculine men are less politically correct, they are less agreeable, they are less following the status quo, and they are less friendly but more dominant around women.


Which you do not portray.

Study: Less Masculine Men Are More PC-whipped | VDARE.com
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While interesting it isn't completely accurate. Nurture still plays a role.
"But that determinism is only inevitable if we believe nature has the only say. A person may have a face that our society, for whatever (perhaps long outdated) evolutionary or cultural reason, says is dishonest. Treat a person like a liar and that person may become one, reinforcing the stereotype in a vicious cycle that looks a lot like inevitability. That nature and nurture probably both play a role is something most scientists today take for granted, distinguishing findings like these from those hazarded in pseudosciences of the past, like phrenology."

Also women during their most fertile period and during ovulation which is when they're sex drive is higher ( but still lower then a man's normal sex drive ) prefer masculine men.


BBC Science | Human Body & Mind | Facial Prejudice: Face and Personality


The reason why women prefer masculine men when they are most fertile is they want to get the best possible genes to impregnate them with masculine strong genetics.
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Start with something mildly scientific and come up with your own conclusion.
Also smiling reduces masculinity, personality is actually hardwired with genetics and hormones again.



A masculine looking guy, chances are will have a masculine personality, he will like sports, weight lifting, going fishing or hunting, not be politically correct, would be willing to fight, has a higher sex drive, is more dominant and not friendly with women, doesn't make as many facial expressions.
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Oh, so youre a very feminine guy? Since you avoided sports, lifting, and other masculine activities and just wanted to play video games?


A feminine looking guy, chances are will have a feminine personality, he will like arts, tv drama's, being politically correct and supporting feminism and gay right groups, going to hangout with females in asexual relationships, and try to avoid fights, but still start drama, and make many face expressions.
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Oh ho ho, nice subtle jabs there.

Smiling reduces masculinity: principal component ... [Perception. 2008] - PubMed - NCBI
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Look at that study.
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This study says that it reduces perceived masculinity. That is to say, it makes you look friendlier. It is not you being hardcoded to not smile.

I am done with you though. You are trying to make things a bit too personal for me and making too many little jabs at me for me to bother anymore.
 
lovinglife said:
1) I am not "incel"
2) Women can be "incel", there are plenty of 19-20 year old virgin females that are attractive but dont get laid because of a number of reasons. Some psychological.


How I am online vs how I am in real life are essentially two different people. What I do online is releasing some of my inhibitions. I masturbate because I like orgasms. I want my sex to be meaningful though, I want to make love.


I have very broad shoulders and I am quite tall. I am thin because of metabolism and the fact that I don't work out much. I don't tan because I am a ginger and don't go outside much.


While interesting it isn't completely accurate. Nurture still plays a role.
"But that determinism is only inevitable if we believe nature has the only say. A person may have a face that our society, for whatever (perhaps long outdated) evolutionary or cultural reason, says is dishonest. Treat a person like a liar and that person may become one, reinforcing the stereotype in a vicious cycle that looks a lot like inevitability. That nature and nurture probably both play a role is something most scientists today take for granted, distinguishing findings like these from those hazarded in pseudosciences of the past, like phrenology."


Start with something mildly scientific and come up with your own conclusion.

Oh, so youre a very feminine guy? Since you avoided sports, lifting, and other masculine activities and just wanted to play video games?



Oh ho ho, nice subtle jabs there.


This study says that it reduces perceived masculinity. That is to say, it makes you look friendlier. It is not you being hardcoded to not smile.

I am done with you though. You are trying to make things a bit too personal for me and making too many little jabs at me for me to bother anymore.
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Ok argue this...

[URL="http://www.ehbonline.org/article/S1090-5138%2811%2900025-0/abstract"]Elsevier

They also orgasm quicker.

They only used a photo of a man's face in the study.

More proof that face is pretty much almost all of what matters for female to male attraction.

Also men with a more broad fWHR ( width of cheekbone zygion to cheekbone zygion divided by the distance of midbrow to the top of the lip ) shows that they make more children and reproduce more.

Soldiers' faces predict aggression, military rank & number of children | John Loehr & GrrlScientist | Science | guardian.co.uk






Which one of these 2 men do you think is more sexually attractive, and more dominant?

http://i.imgur.com/s7OU8Dd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cVeppDM.jpg



Long narrow faces are awful for men, and create a goofy look.

Short broad faces are good for men, and create a strong masculine look.


Why do masculine men produce more offspring?


Why do they make women orgasm faster and more times?



Could it be possible that women are more attracted to masculine men, in the same way that men are more attracted to feminine women?


Could it be that your ideal women, has a preference for the looks of her ideal man?


Could it be that your ideal women, has more sexual options then you do and thus has higher standards then you?


Could it be that even your female equivalent has a lot more sexual options then you do, and thus has higher standards from her future male partners then you do?
 
SprinkleMe69 said:
I'd go out with lovinglife any day. I like his brain. :biggrin:
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You wouldn't have sex with him though, like all of the other women who went out with him, I guess you could go ice skating together though.



Also your signature proves what I say is right, Manual Ferrara the male performer in your signature...


has a highly masculine sexually dimorphic face. Some might even say that he looks like a caveman.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/550x/bc/66/67/bc6667860e6709b25660de68d571b1e9.jpg


That's a very masculine dominant face, if he looked more like...


http://i.imgur.com/cVeppDM.jpg

would he be a popular male pornstar?
 
RippedStaten said:
Dude your physique is skinny fat, I bet your face isn't very masculine now is it?
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Who would be the judge? You? lol

How masculine would your face look with my huge load all over it? :tongue:

Hold your gay references. I'll leave you to your very sad self, your 'unusual' biography, your devout bitter misogyny, your latent homosexuality, your penchant for failing at every opportunity to capture a modicum of charisma or empathy, and the relatively short lifespan you have on this forum.

[**Cue the sound of complete disengagement from a boring troll's milquetoast endeavors.**]
 
 
SprinkleMe69 said:
Don't get it twisted Lil man. I like how he fucks. End of story.
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He fucks like every other pornstar. This again goes back to what I said before, if a women likes your face she will rationalize everything else about you.



If a women likes your face, she will say your funny and laugh at your not funny jokes and giggle around you.

If a women likes your face, she won't care when an uglier guy with a better physique stands next to you.

If a women likes your face, she will be submissive to you and have more respect for you.

If a women likes your face, she will put up with other flaws.


Just admit it, you like Manual's face and you think he is handsome, it's not shallow or bad to admit, I can admit when I like a women. It's not because of Manual's fuck game, but his face game.
 
SprinkleMe69 said:
Naw you're wrong. But I can say this, I don't like yours.
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Your upper chest looks fat :biggrin1:

my face is similar to Manual's btw, as we are from a similar nationality and likely of similar phenotype, and both in shape with dark hair, and lean faces and wider cheekbones then jaws and some slight asymmetry and beards.



I think this means that you would want me to run Manual Ferrara style dink game on you, no matter what you say. :eek::eek:

You mad?


http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/550x/bc/66/67/bc6667860e6709b25660de68d571b1e9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/N3XZk6Q.jpg

Look there.
 
RippedStaten said:
Many studies that contradict it.

Angry Faces: Facial Structure Linked To Aggressive Tendencies, Study Suggests

Are wider faced men more self-sacrificing?

The face of success: Top UK male business leaders show dominant traits in their faces


Also again look at these pictures, who looks dominant, intimidating, and sexually dimorphic and attractive?

http://i.imgur.com/s7OU8Dd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cVeppDM.jpg

Who looks less confident, and more timid in those pictures?
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Go ahead and keep believing what you want to believe. But I think a study on 5000 people and their personalities disprove anything related to personality. There are differences on how we perceive these people, but how these people are is not related to their face.

PS: I was curious on what my fwhr or whatever is, looks like I am between 1.81 and 1.88.
 
lovinglife said:
Go ahead and keep believing what you want to believe. But I think a study on 5000 people and their personalities disprove anything related to personality. There are differences on how we perceive these people, but how these people are is not related to their face.

PS: I was curious on what my fwhr or whatever is, looks like I am between 1.81 and 1.88.
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PM me and I can measure it for you...

two things to note

1) fat and out of shape people tend to have wider faces and it can disprove the theory. We should only use fWHR on lean people, as they're face will not be as fat and it will be their bone structure that makes their face look wide, not their bodyfat.


2) You need to use a picture from a few feet away, as the closer you are to the camera the more lens distortion and the longer and narrower it makes your face.


This is why you look better when you stand a few feet back from a mirror or camera, as opposed to up close a few inches away.


Because lens distortion makes you look longer and narrower the closer you get.





You measure mid of the lower brow, to the top of the lip, then divide it by the left and right zygion, a 1.8 ratio is good.
 
RippedStaten said:
PM me and I can measure it for you...

two things to note

1) fat and out of shape people tend to have wider faces and it can disprove the theory. We should only use fWHR on lean people, as they're face will not be as fat and it will be their bone structure that makes their face look wide, not their bodyfat.


2) You need to use a picture from a few feet away, as the closer you are to the camera the more lens distortion and the longer and narrower it makes your face.


This is why you look better when you stand a few feet back from a mirror or camera, as opposed to up close a few inches away.


Because lens distortion makes you look longer and narrower the closer you get.


You measure mid of the lower brow, to the top of the lip, then divide it by the left and right zygion, a 1.8 ratio is good.
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I used this methodology to measure (from your own article):
FWH is measured as the maximum horizontal distance from the left facial boundary to the right facial boundary (width) divided by the distance from the top of the lip to the highest point of the eyelids (height).

I am not going to PM you a picture of my face. The only person that is going to ever get a face picture from anything of mine that has nudes on it is somebody that I trust, and even then likely only a female.

BTW, a methodology that requires a certain fitness level is already a flawed methodology. Why? Because you are cherry picking your sampling rather than it being random.

EDIT: Also, if fWHR were accurate I think I am disproving it. You called me feminine, but I have a good fWHR. I am not aggressive, I am not masculine, I am nothing of what you claim results from fWHR.
 
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