why do some white men hate briefs underwear

[NY2NY]

thankyou very much for sharing your thoughts on the possibilities, and since it is all based on perception, the only way to find out is to talk to people (because its not like gravitational laws ) so i really appreciate u took the time to explain this. i agree with you on the social conditioning, cultural norms, and also gendered marketing, and seems like North american (I don't know about Europe though) gendered marketing is different from many other countries.. for example in many countries i have visited, u will find men's briefs underwear ads on the billboards just like women's bikinis ads, so there wearing briefs is just as normal as just wearing underwear and won't attract any connotation about ur sexuality. but it seems like here people are being conditioned intentionally (by some people ofcoruse, because marketing strategies are made by someone) to accept women's nudity but not male... but let me tell u that this is not a universal strategy... and i will share something very interesting which i just came across yesterday (it is not directly related to briefs but still interesting). i saw a reel where a white straight married young man was explaining the reasons why he was getting so many bad comments from his fellow male friends for wearing leggings to the gym. I will just paraphrase what he said (not my opinion or point). he said that since some men have been over the years have been socially conditioned to sexually objectify women, that is why they are very happy when women wear tight or skimpy or short clothings, but when they see a man in short clothings, they get angry and frustrated because they associate those clothings with objectification, and now since they are straight they can't objectify men in the same way, they get angry and give bad comments. he was saying that only those men who associate short clothing with objectification were giving him bad comments.. i think this is also somewhat related to social conditioning.. for me personally, i dont associate people's clothing with sexuality, i find that to be unfair..

Makes sense. There could be some cognitive dissonance involved. A guy might like looking at women in leggings, short shorts, bikinis, yet when a guy wears that stuff/speedos maybe it's a bit of a mindfuck.

Think fashion might also be cyclical in part because of the "critical mass" involved. If participation in something is low, it's hard to get others to do the same thing.

Like growing up some of the brief wearers in my urban schools were shy around those who wore boxers. Yet in a more rural school most of us wore briefs and nobody was shy because almost everybody wore them. And the few who did wear boxers didn't give any shit to the brief wearers.

There might also be certain subcultures where certain things are accepted differently relative to the broader population.

When I swam, speedos were the norm and anyone who wore the jammer suits for practice tended to not be that serious. Or they did it because they felt insecure (like they're heavier or something). Even noticed some who wear briefs underwear but wear jammer swimsuits because maybe they don't like the exposure in public.

Or dance belts for dancing, which are basically thongs. No one feels shame standing around in their thong because every other guy does that too in that context. And if you show up wearing your briefs nobody's going to make fun of that because you're getting even skimpier with the thong worn under the tights lol

Basically if enough guys wore briefs, it would be considered the norm, which might lead to even more guys wearing them. And if not enough wear them, it could compress it more than whatever the % would be without social pressure. Maybe things change if there's some sort of impetus, whether it's culture, marketing, etc.

The fact that 1970s US was a briefs/bikini briefs culture, then went to a boxers culture in 20-30 years just shows how much cultural influences, marketing, social pressure go into it.

And how these things don't sync up across countries since the cultures and what influences the fashion trends can be so different.

 

[bojo353]

have u ever received any comments on wearing briefs?

All the time but to be fair in Ireland, wearing anything but boxer-briefs is seen as strange.

 

[WellHung83]

I think its changing though. A lot more underwear companies seem to be making more brief style underwear the focal point of their line instead of the usual boxer briefs and boxers.

If anything I think the loose boxers are dropping more in popularity with guys now and the briefs and indeed jocks seem to be making a good comeback thanks to companies like Nike making them more mainstream cool as it were.

 

[WellHung83]

Makes sense. There could be some cognitive dissonance involved. A guy might like looking at women in leggings, short shorts, bikinis, yet when a guy wears that stuff/speedos maybe it's a bit of a mindfuck.

Think fashion might also be cyclical in part because of the "critical mass" involved. If participation in something is low, it's hard to get others to do the same thing.

Like growing up some of the brief wearers in my urban schools were shy around those who wore boxers. Yet in a more rural school most of us wore briefs and nobody was shy because almost everybody wore them. And the few who did wear boxers didn't give any shit to the brief wearers.

There might also be certain subcultures where certain things are accepted differently relative to the broader population.

When I swam, speedos were the norm and anyone who wore the jammer suits for practice tended to not be that serious. Or they did it because they felt insecure (like they're heavier or something). Even noticed some who wear briefs underwear but wear jammer swimsuits because maybe they don't like the exposure in public.

Or dance belts for dancing, which are basically thongs. No one feels shame standing around in their thong because every other guy does that too in that context. And if you show up wearing your briefs nobody's going to make fun of that because you're getting even skimpier with the thong worn under the tights lol

Basically if enough guys wore briefs, it would be considered the norm, which might lead to even more guys wearing them. And if not enough wear them, it could compress it more than whatever the % would be without social pressure. Maybe things change if there's some sort of impetus, whether it's culture, marketing, etc.

The fact that 1970s US was a briefs/bikini briefs culture, then went to a boxers culture in 20-30 years just shows how much cultural influences, marketing, social pressure go into it.

And how these things don't sync up across countries since the cultures and what influences the fashion trends can be so different.

Curious then. do you think its swinging back to briefs and even bikini briefs now for guys ? Seems like a lot of mens briefs companies are making them more of a priority in the last few years.

 

[FrankieGuile]

Makes sense. There could be some cognitive dissonance involved. A guy might like looking at women in leggings, short shorts, bikinis, yet when a guy wears that stuff/speedos maybe it's a bit of a mindfuck.

Think fashion might also be cyclical in part because of the "critical mass" involved. If participation in something is low, it's hard to get others to do the same thing.

Like growing up some of the brief wearers in my urban schools were shy around those who wore boxers. Yet in a more rural school most of us wore briefs and nobody was shy because almost everybody wore them. And the few who did wear boxers didn't give any shit to the brief wearers.

There might also be certain subcultures where certain things are accepted differently relative to the broader population.

When I swam, speedos were the norm and anyone who wore the jammer suits for practice tended to not be that serious. Or they did it because they felt insecure (like they're heavier or something). Even noticed some who wear briefs underwear but wear jammer swimsuits because maybe they don't like the exposure in public.

Or dance belts for dancing, which are basically thongs. No one feels shame standing around in their thong because every other guy does that too in that context. And if you show up wearing your briefs nobody's going to make fun of that because you're getting even skimpier with the thong worn under the tights lol

Basically if enough guys wore briefs, it would be considered the norm, which might lead to even more guys wearing them. And if not enough wear them, it could compress it more than whatever the % would be without social pressure. Maybe things change if there's some sort of impetus, whether it's culture, marketing, etc.

The fact that 1970s US was a briefs/bikini briefs culture, then went to a boxers culture in 20-30 years just shows how much cultural influences, marketing, social pressure go into it.

And how these things don't sync up across countries since the cultures and what influences the fashion trends can be so different.

Since when did differences in preferences become "cognitive dissonance?" One knows that smoking too much is harmful to one's health, but one does it anyway because it reduces stress. Is that "cognitive dissonance or simply a rational trade-off for that person? Women generally are physically appealing in "leggings, short shorts [or], bikinis because the female form is intrinsically beautiful as recognized throughout the ages and across cultures. By contrast, men in Speedos generally are considered gross.

 

[wizard1]

Underwear ?

 

[person777]

I think its changing though. A lot more underwear companies seem to be making more brief style underwear the focal point of their line instead of the usual boxer briefs and boxers.

If anything I think the loose boxers are dropping more in popularity with guys now and the briefs and indeed jocks seem to be making a good comeback thanks to companies like Nike making them more mainstream cool as it were.

lmao this is so delusional. no one wears briefs and most guys wear boxers if they're not 100 years old

 

[FrankieGuile]

lmao this is so delusional. no one wears briefs and most guys wear boxers if they're not 100 years old

I would like to see the data to support the contention that "a lot more underwear companies seem to be making more brief style underwear" or "loose boxers are dropping more in popularity." I do not know if it is true or false, but it was served up with so much fervent and earnest belief that one would think some support would exist for fear of appearing to just fabricate facts when one is stating mere speculation.

 

[Sam0021]

Makes sense. There could be some cognitive dissonance involved. A guy might like looking at women in leggings, short shorts, bikinis, yet when a guy wears that stuff/speedos maybe it's a bit of a mindfuck.

Think fashion might also be cyclical in part because of the "critical mass" involved. If participation in something is low, it's hard to get others to do the same thing.

Like growing up some of the brief wearers in my urban schools were shy around those who wore boxers. Yet in a more rural school most of us wore briefs and nobody was shy because almost everybody wore them. And the few who did wear boxers didn't give any shit to the brief wearers.

There might also be certain subcultures where certain things are accepted differently relative to the broader population.

When I swam, speedos were the norm and anyone who wore the jammer suits for practice tended to not be that serious. Or they did it because they felt insecure (like they're heavier or something). Even noticed some who wear briefs underwear but wear jammer swimsuits because maybe they don't like the exposure in public.

Or dance belts for dancing, which are basically thongs. No one feels shame standing around in their thong because every other guy does that too in that context. And if you show up wearing your briefs nobody's going to make fun of that because you're getting even skimpier with the thong worn under the tights lol

Basically if enough guys wore briefs, it would be considered the norm, which might lead to even more guys wearing them. And if not enough wear them, it could compress it more than whatever the % would be without social pressure. Maybe things change if there's some sort of impetus, whether it's culture, marketing, etc.

The fact that 1970s US was a briefs/bikini briefs culture, then went to a boxers culture in 20-30 years just shows how much cultural influences, marketing, social pressure go into it.

And how these things don't sync up across countries since the cultures and what influences the fashion trends can be so different.

agreed, wearing something that is out of crowd can sometimes get you unwanted attention, and sometimes fun too.. and you are right, these preferences are so different across different parts of the world..

 

[Sam0021]

All the time but to be fair in Ireland, wearing anything but boxer-briefs is seen as strange.

interesting, so i am curious to know what kind of comments did u receive for wearing briefs then?

 

[Sam0021]

I think its changing though. A lot more underwear companies seem to be making more brief style underwear the focal point of their line instead of the usual boxer briefs and boxers.

If anything I think the loose boxers are dropping more in popularity with guys now and the briefs and indeed jocks seem to be making a good comeback thanks to companies like Nike making them more mainstream cool as it were.

well, here in Canada, i have not seen that trend at all in all the clothing stores i have been to.. in the men's underwear section, you will 99% will be boxer briefs or boxers or some some underwear that go up to knee.. but other people in Canada can share their experiences to if they find more briefs these days in the clothing stores... maybe it is.

 

[Sam0021]

All the time but to be fair in Ireland, wearing anything but boxer-briefs is seen as strange.

i think we have heard about trends in North America, Australia, some European countries...it seems like except Australia, briefs are mostly not acceptable here.. but i would love to hear from people in Asia, middle east, south america too.. regarding the trend there.. also, what collection of underwear do they find in clothing shops there...

 

[Vastian]

Not sure of ots really a gay thing or not. Seeing what my straight friends wear. I think tighty whiteys just come off as..."I'm officially stating I'm not trying"

 

[fuzzyis]

Not sure of ots really a gay thing or not. Seeing what my straight friends wear. I think tighty whiteys just come off as..."I'm officially stating I'm not trying"

I think that's a pretty accurate assessment. Tighty whiteys are the male equivalent of plain cotton granny panties.

 

[FrankieGuile]

Not sure of ots really a gay thing or not. Seeing what my straight friends wear. I think tighty whiteys just come off as..."I'm officially stating I'm not trying"

No, not a "gay thing," per se, but the sexualization and fetishization of underwear is certainly a "gay thing" as evidenced by responses in this thread.

 

[Vastian]

No, not a "gay thing," per se, but the sexualization and fetishization of underwear is certainly a "gay thing" as evidenced by responses in this thread.

Have to say..it's just my perspective. Do admit some whitylies has a couple fun times

 

[FrankieGuile]

Have to say..it's just my perspective. Do admit some whitylies has a couple fun times

Everything anyone says is their perspective so there is no need to qualify one's remarks. I have no idea what your second sentences means.

 

[Vastian]

Everything anyone says is their perspective so there is no need to qualify one's remarks. I have no idea what your second sentences means.

My apologies. That didn't make much sense. I meant it to say. Whitey tighties have their place. Not a game killer. But while I'm not a big underwear guy I do like when there is a bit of color. And I freely admit when the underwear gets too...intricate or sexy...I get the feeling I'm out of my depth. I just don't know of I'm active or fancy enough for a guy who has complex underwear. Mostly cuz when I try them out....it doesn't look like the ads

 

[curtdude]

it is not that men hate tighty whiteys it is about preference for example for me I like my jump free and able to move around so I am a boxer guy I have been since I was young for me it is about comfort

 

[NY2NY]

Curious then. do you think its swinging back to briefs and even bikini briefs now for guys ? Seems like a lot of mens briefs companies are making them more of a priority in the last few years.

Seems like the trend is more toward tight-fitting boxers and briefs and away from boxers