and that's a very valid reason for not wearing briefs, but my main question is would u associate briefs or pther smaller underwears with being gay and if yes, why?
why do some white men hate briefs underwear
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i fully agree and appreciate your answer and opinion. and in my experience, i have travelled to many countries and have found people wear all different types of underwears and nobody even caring about what others wear, and i think that's how it should be.. thanks for your answer
What an interesting topic, lol. Every man I know wears briefs, actually, I’ve never seen one who doesn’t. My brothers, my dad, my grandfathers, uncles, cousins, school/college friends, and all the boyfriends I’ve had. They’re all white.
It’s an interesting question, but I don’t think straight men find briefs gay. Maybe it’s just that boxers are more common and more comfortable.
In Latin America, a lot of regular guys wear briefs, especially in Brazil.
It’s an interesting question, but I don’t think straight men find briefs gay. Maybe it’s just that boxers are more common and more comfortable.
In Latin America, a lot of regular guys wear briefs, especially in Brazil.
thanks for your answer, i like your answer man and i think that's how our underwear choice should be based on our own preference and that could be anything.. but my question is do you have any judgement or bias against other people who wear briefs or smaller underwear or u straightaway think they are gay?, from your answer it seems you don't have any bias but still would like to know..
thanks for asking for clarification man, I just shared what i have experienced over many years of living and visiting in different countries and meeting with so many people, but again i fully understand that world is too big to generalize. and please feel free to negate my theory, maybe most white men don't associate briefs with gay and they don't associate underwear length with sexuality for both men n women, and maybe it just so happened that the ones i met told me that coorelation, or maybe men from other races also think wearing briefs makes u gay but they never told me.. i fully understand that there are so many possibilities and i may be totally wrong thats why i thought of asking a question here and getting updated. i am very fine if at the end, i find that my assumption was wrong.. hope i was able to clarify a bit.
I would not associate them with being gay. I think the people that told you were generalizing.
also, what brands do you generally prefer when it comes to bikini briefs or thongs?
have u ever received any comments on wearing briefs?
In Ireland I feel it’s more societal, boxer-briefs are probably the most popular style, followed by trunks. No one I know wears briefs at all and you do get odd looks in the locker room (or changing room as we call it) if you’re seen in briefs - I’ve started wearing the Calvin Klein hip briefs myself and being honest, I think I’ve been converted
thanks man for your answer. when you say all the men you know wear briefs, it makes me wonder where do you live exactly? in Brazil and other south american countries, i agree that briefs are a common type of underwear and noone associates it with gay..
agreed, and i really don't think that all gays would prefer briefs anyways, i am sure some do while some don't... just like many straight men, somebody here said most people in Brazil wear briefs, so it shows briefs is in no way an indication of sexuality.,
I live on the US east coast, Philadelphia, and was talking about experiences in this region.
Growing up in the 2000s and 2010s, guys would say briefs are gay, because it showed more skin, which must have meant you were showing off to get guys' attention by showing legs and bulge, or possibly more to another guy. They especially thought getting naked was seen as even more gay because they think no guy should show other guys his naked body, because in their thinking, why would a guy want another guy to see his legs, bulge, penis. Today it still happens with many younger guys changing in stalls or not showering together. I don't speak for all, but this is a common experience here. I personally think it's stupid. I grew up naked and so was comfortable with whoever saw me naked, but also I carried myself confidently and everyone definitely knew I'm straight, so when I got naked or happened to be in briefs (my grandma bought me briefs once, so wanted to wear them at least a couple times) no one questioned my sexuality. A few other guys did get naked, but also weren't called into question. It's shallow, but have to be honest, being popular gives you a pass on most things, so we didn't get grief over this.
No one equates women wearing bikinis or revealing clothes as being lesbians. It's seen as sexy. The thinking is different when comparing men and women. Different expectations just like other things to do with gender, beyond fashion choices, like women can show skin, but not be too sexual because then that's seen negatively, which that is a whole other topic. I wasn't alive for this, but am guessing the idea women can show more skin was due to the feminist movement? (Someone from around that time period can correct me if I'm wrong).
You belong to a large club of men -- at least here at LPSG -- who are laughably aggrieved when other men refuse to be naked around you, accusing them of all manner of homophobia or unfounded humility, intolerant and disbelieving of other reasons a man may not want to indulge your oggling his goods for your personal perversion. However, your post was valuable for one nugget -- the notion that you "grew up naked." That must have caused some problems outside the house.
It's a false premise. "They" don't associate underwear color or style with any particular attribute of men or women. But somehow I think that sober reality will not satisfy what I believe has developed into a personal and very specific kink.
I see where my answer can be viewed as you have viewed it. The part where I say "I think it's stupid" refers to my thinking of labeling others gay for wearing briefs, not that I think all should be naked just because I grew up comfortable with nudity.
Fair enough. Other men grow up "comfortable with nudity" and do not have the same need to display themselves nude publicly or see other men nude publicly. The implication that such a man is not comfortable with his nudity or other people's nudity is a tired assertion here at LPSG. I know it is cruel, but guys need to finally hear the truth: you are not special because you get naked. Okay, I said it. Once you all recover from that reality check, I'll expect a reactionary mob of naysayers with their feelings hurt.
thanks for sharing your thoughts with me, i really appreciate this honest and candid conversation and thats what i am looking for..also, I believe the white men who told me that briefs is gay must have also the same thinking. interesting enough, i have been to many other countries where bikini type briefs is very common for men (irrespective of their orientation) and it is not considered bad, rather just normal. And it sounds very interesting to me, that these people who think that a man wearing briefs is wearing briefs to show other men, but i think that's a very weak argument, because on beaches, there are both men n women, so what if that man wanted to show off more skin to other women, is that not possible? and same for women, when women are in bikinis, then they are seen by both men n women, but i have never heard from any woman yet they they feel like women wear skimpy clothing on beach to attract other women? So, I don't when and why this idea of men should cover their bodies to be a man, and women should show off their skin as much they can, came into effect, and i know it is not universal, and i will tell u another interesting thing, that those people who i had conversation with in person, they were not ready to accept that a man wearing briefs anywhere in the world can be straight, i know you will find it hard to believe, but i am not lying. it only tells me that though we say we are living in the time of gender equality, that is a very far off dream.. secondly, i think you are right that women clothing has changed a lot after feminist movement from what little i have read about the movement. i think i watched in some hollywood movie recently (cant remember the name) where it was shown that a woman wearing pants would upset many people.. so, now i think its great that women can wear pants/jeans/suits n tie like men without their sexuality being judged but then why can't men wear anything if the parameter of equality is wearing same clothing only.. so to me the gist is like, both men n women like to see women's skin but nobody likes to see men's skin so that is bad...
Also, people wear underwear for their comfort and liking so if a person is changing in locker room, he probably was wearing the same underwear at all other places (not just gym) seems like people miss that completely, i think i would never be able to fully understand the relation between men's underwear n sexuality..
I really appreciate that so many people have shared their candid thoughts and opinion as it really helps me understand different perspectives and is giving me a great idea on how different people think differently..but i thought before the thread derails a lot, i should clarify that my main question is "why briefs is associated with being gay by some people?"... for example, if a person finds briefs too revealing, and they don't wear it because they find it uncomfortable, thats an entirely different thing and not my question here.. i am just asking reasons behind the (perceived) relation between wearing briefs and being gay.. thanks and keep the answers coming.. and also please do mention area where you live because geography also plays a part here.. thanks all
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Could be many reasons.
- Briefs being associated with youth
- The way they emphasize the male anatomy. Penis, butt, legs all tend to be emphasized
- Have had a few girls tell me my underwear (like what's in my pic) looks like women's lol so to some it's considered effeminate and hence maybe "gay"
- Shifting trends. Given the shift to baggier clothes somewhere around 1990-ish, a lot of guys grew up with marketing that boxers are the norm and now tighter boxers
On the women's side, briefs and bikinis have a lot of marketing and representation so it's considered the "norm" for women's underwear/fashion.
So I guess:
- Social conditioning: We're influenced by what we see and what we're told. Marketing, media, family/friends, etc., can reinforce ideas of what's "appropriate" to wear.
- Gendered marketing: Media/marketing telling women that briefs are normal and saying boxers/boxer-briefs are normal for men (at least here in the US for the most part)
- Cultural norms: Many cultures have ingrained ideas about masc/fem that extend to clothing choices.
- Fear of judgment: Some men might worry about being judged/mocked for wearing briefs.
Just weird ingrained notions and stereotypes that cause people to follow norms or believe certain things.
I believe your premise is false. Briefs are not associated with "being gay" and I do not believe you can cite one study to back up that assertion. As such, it is only your personal perception that briefs are so associated or a personal connection with an individual, or individuals, who put that notion in your head. Only you can address the question because it is not a perception shared, or widely shared, by others as evidenced by the lack of literature or discourse on the matter in general. It is amusing how people will flock to address a question even when the premise of the question is unfounded. It is akin to finding meaning in song lyrics never intended by the songwriter.
thankyou very much for sharing your thoughts on the possibilities, and since it is all based on perception, the only way to find out is to talk to people (because its not like gravitational laws
) so i really appreciate u took the time to explain this. i agree with you on the social conditioning, cultural norms, and also gendered marketing, and seems like North american (I don't know about Europe though) gendered marketing is different from many other countries.. for example in many countries i have visited, u will find men's briefs underwear ads on the billboards just like women's bikinis ads, so there wearing briefs is just as normal as just wearing underwear and won't attract any connotation about ur sexuality. but it seems like here people are being conditioned intentionally (by some people ofcoruse, because marketing strategies are made by someone) to accept women's nudity but not male... but let me tell u that this is not a universal strategy... and i will share something very interesting which i just came across yesterday (it is not directly related to briefs but still interesting). i saw a reel where a white straight married young man was explaining the reasons why he was getting so many bad comments from his fellow male friends for wearing leggings to the gym. I will just paraphrase what he said (not my opinion or point). he said that since some men have been over the years have been socially conditioned to sexually objectify women, that is why they are very happy when women wear tight or skimpy or short clothings, but when they see a man in short clothings, they get angry and frustrated because they associate those clothings with objectification, and now since they are straight they can't objectify men in the same way, they get angry and give bad comments. he was saying that only those men who associate short clothing with objectification were giving him bad comments.. i think this is also somewhat related to social conditioning.. for me personally, i dont associate people's clothing with sexuality, i find that to be unfair..
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