That coupled with willful ignorance and what do you have?
This thread is far from being silly. This thread is actually accurate. Straight bodybuilders should support gay pride parades. Gay men basically made their career happen. Straight bodybuilders might not be Brad Pitt rich. But the big names are quite wealthy. You should take a look at this video below. Prostitution with straight bodybuilders is not an illusion. Its the real thing. So everything that i said in previous posts is spot on. This man in this video agree.That coupled with willful ignorance and what do you have?
This silly thread..
about a whole lot of nothing...
trying to make it into something...
about ALL BBs because, you know, a few may have.
Me saying this thread is silly is me being nice, lol. It's silly, and now getting to be quite sad. Sad that it's full of ignorant musing by a few who are clueless about the sport of body building.
Yeah I said, 99.9%, majority, and 90% which means not every man who follows body building or the male body is gay but I’ll stick with most are!!!. Over a year of conversations you are the one who likes to dominate opinions and it’s usually you who likes to assert yourself as being truth. You get defensive on any subject where gay men assert opinions related to the gay community. You actually seem like an ally to everyone on here but gay men unless we worship the queer and straight community blindly but the second something is said in defense of gay men or gay identity that challenges bi, pan, or straight men or women you get defensive and censor the conversation via flagged posts. We are all full grown men on here and we should be able to debate and my opinion is not less than yours and just because you say you know from experience doesn’t make that any more truthful than what I said.Post #70:
And here: Post #72:
I don't need someone without first-hand experience to let me believe something I know to be a fact from my participation in the sport and attendance at many BB shows. I know who was in the audience. And it was not predominately gay men!
I specifically informed you that this "thesis" of yours is wrong:
And this relates to the subject of the thread how???
No shade to you either.
But I have no reason to believe your hypothesis about this either.
But to play along, your generalization fails.
That's because I could also posit that one could walk into any bar and wonder how many could name a judge on the Supreme Court. And my thinking here is not based on any first-hand knowledge. It's simply my opinion.
Just like your thoughts and opinions about the sport of Body Building are not based in reality. Simply your conjecture. And maybe even wishful thinking. So my friend, you are wrong about the sport of Body Building and those who support it.
Perhaps you should stick to your hypotheses about gold star gays versus those of us who aren't since you don't know all of us personally yet seem to think you do!
thank you for posting this! I don’t know how many of them are straight if they are having sex with men for money but that’s a never ending battle.
What a load of bollocks. Attacking straight bodybuilders for not wishing people happy pride because a portion of their demographic is thirsty gay men is not "in defence of gay men". It's like saying Zendaya is sexist for not talking about men's mental health month even though a lot of her fans are straight men attracted to her. You can't attack a community, question all of their sexuality and then say it's in defence of gay men.
Still doesn't make it true, no matter how much you try and "rephrase" or whatever it is you are doing now. I know that most aren't. #factsmatter
This would really be funny if it weren't so sad; nice try at projection. All one needs to do is read your musings around the site. You seem to thrive on pulling stuff out of the air or elsewhere in your constant attempts to justify your unfounded comments.
Again with your projection; defensiveness is your crutch when challenged. One of my favorite sayings is "Opinions are like assholes; everybody has one". You've repeatedly stated your "opinions" here and I've repeatedly refuted such with facts. And will continue to do so. #factsmatter
More unfounded nonsense which again tells me you have nothing of substance to provide now so you are resorting to a personal attack. Another fail.
Full grown men don't play games with truth. They don't make stuff up and attempt to present it as facts when they know it's not. Push their opinions on others they are unable to support when challenged. Double down with personal attacks when challenged. As has been going on in this thread.
And a huge thank you for once again admitting you don't know anything about that which you've claimed to have known throughout this thread.
Damn! “The end.”Still doesn't make it true, no matter how much you try and "rephrase" or whatever it is you are doing now. I know that most aren't. #factsmatter
This would really be funny if it weren't so sad; nice try at projection. All one needs to do is read your musings around the site. You seem to thrive on pulling stuff out of the air or elsewhere in your constant attempts to justify your unfounded comments.
You have beliefs, and when challenged, cannot provide any documentation to support said beliefs, other than what you think. That's a fail of logic my friend. Big fail.
And now you are resorting to making personal attacks. All that tells me and other readers is you have nothing of substance to share. Nothing. As you continue to be unable to support your feelings with documentation or facts. Unlike what I've done here. Repeatedly... #factsmatter
Again with your projection; defensiveness is your crutch when challenged. One of my favorite sayings is "Opinions are like assholes; everybody has one". You've repeatedly stated your "opinions" here and I've repeatedly refuted such with facts. And will continue to do so. #factsmatter
More unfounded nonsense which again tells me you have nothing of substance to provide now so you are resorting to a personal attack. Another fail.
What I am is an ally for the truth. Facts. Honesty. And when anyone tries to post a bunch of opinions and nonsense not supported by facts or truth, I will speak out. Especially about a subject or topic of which I have first-hand knowledge and experience. Like bodybuilding.
And continue to do so as I don't deal in conspiracy theories. Or with people who post "stuff" that has no basis in truth. Like has happened in this thread... #factsmatter
Full grown men don't play games with truth. They don't make stuff up and attempt to present it as facts when they know it's not. Push their opinions on others they are unable to support when challenged. Double down with personal attacks when challenged. As has been going on in this thread.
Debate? That's funny. You aren't debating. You are posting your thoughts based on nothing other than your opinion. Which, when challenged, you've been unable to support. Not how debate works. #factsmatter
And a huge thank you for once again admitting you don't know anything about that which you've claimed to have known throughout this thread.
I do know. I've shared with you and other thread readers my personal experience of being involved in the bodybuilding community for almost 30 years now.
And now that you've admitted again you don't know, do all of us a favor and please don't continue to post about that which you've admitted you don't know. It's just not a good look!
because in a previous post there is you tube videos from actual BB that says there’s rampant same sex-sex work in the BB community. There’s countless content all over the internet that supports the you tube video testimonials and the, “G4P” porn actors have claimed to have to turned to gay sex work to support their BB. I watched the videos-# factsDamn! “The end.”
Basic Math lesson: One DOES NOT equal 90 or 99 percent as you've repeatedly stated...
Nah. It is silly. This thread is akin to straight men expecting sex from a date because they treat the woman to dinner etc. They don't owe you anything. The transaction is complete. You buy the content because you want it. They provide the content cause they want money.
....and here we go with the division. We're only united during pride. Ya'll focus too much on which orientation has it worse.
And now you are resorting to making personal attacks. All that tells me and other readers is you have nothing of substance to share. Nothing.
And now you're bringing BLM into this? Jesus bro. That's a false equivalency. Cops aren't shooting gay ppl. Stop bro. You're straw manning it now.
These straight bodybuilders clearly show all their support to the BLM cause. But they dont show support for the LGBT cause. Dont pretend to not see the favoritism.
I feel like this is a social experiment at this point. Come up with the most random shit and see how ppl react. "Worthy to fight for them" what is this? Game of Thrones? I just... can't believe you compared the BLM movement to them not saying Happy Pride. Honestly, I look forward to your responses because your thought process is genuinely intriguing.
Let's say hypothetically they did say Happy Pride... which i'm sure some do. What has that accomplished? Nothing. A couple straight bodybuilders saying happy pride isn't going to end homophobia.
They've done nothing but sexualise them
Usually only the ones who can profit off of it.
You disagree with a false statement = HomophobicHow so? Are we like a hivemind. I wanna know how I, a 22y/o UK gay man is connected to Arnold Schwarzenegger, a 75y/o Canadian straight man.
Can I ask a question Marco? How come you've never posted on lpsg "happy international women's day"? You are linked to women. So why are you being sexist by not supporting women and wishing them a happy international women's day?
You are quite high maintenance.Let's say hypothetically they did say Happy Pride... which i'm sure some do. What has that accomplished? Nothing. A couple straight bodybuilders saying happy pride isn't going to end homophobia.
You dont get it, dont you! This is not about ending homophobia right away. Its about fighting it with allies. Showing support shows that they care. So them saying happy pride is a good thing in that direction. It is important. Especially with straight bodybuilders who often do business with rich gay men in Dubai. You know why...
They've done nothing but sexualise them
Total bullshit. This is something self loathing gay men says. Your generalization is wrong. Gay men who sexualize bodybuilders are a minority. Theres nothing wrong by saying, '' Look at his bulge. He looks packed. Straight men do the same thing with bikini girls. They praise their big breasts and say sexual things. Like '' Those big tities needs some attention. '' But of course, you dont say a bad thing about that. Because they are straight. Also, if these straight bodybuilders absolutely cant stand to be sexualized by gay men, then they should never went to the gym in the first place to make themselves look hot. Problem solved.
Usually only the ones who can profit off of it.
This is untrue. Cher always been an ally since the very beginning of her career. Same thing with Madonna. She had gay friends before her first album came out. Lady Gaga also was supporting LGBT rights since the beginning of her career. Even before Born This Way. Even Elizabeth Taylor was an ally since the beginning of her career. As she mentioned in the past. She knew many gay actors in the industry. She always supported them. Tom Hanks didnt do Philadelphia to benefit from it. Neighter Jake Gyllenhaal from making Brokeback Mountain. Both of them already supported LGBT rights long before making these movies. The vast majority of celebrities legitely supports LGBT rights. Even in india, most actors supports LGBT rights. Its been like that for a long time. Its not recent.
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How so? Are we like a hivemind. I wanna know how I, a 22y/o UK gay man is connected to Arnold Schwarzenegger, a 75y/o Canadian straight man.
Straight bodybuilders are linked to gay men via prostitution. But not only that. Many gay men are into bodybuilders. Therefore bodybuilders have more attention from gay men than women. A big % of gay men loves muscles. Which is one of the biggest fantasy of gay men. Why do you think gay porn have so many muscular men. Straight men have the lesbian fantasy. Gay men have the muscular men fantasy.
Can I ask a question Marco? How come you've never posted on lpsg "happy international women's day"? You are linked to women. So why are you being sexist by not supporting women and wishing them a happy international women's day?
I never knew that there was a thread about women day. Theres your answer.
In all seriousness. If this was any other career, the gay men objectifying the bodybuilders would be arrested for sexual harassment. But, because it's on social media it's seen as ok for them to comment inappropriate things.
