Of course.
And then, there's a great range of how 'addictable' we all are, just in physical terms.
I can drink all I want or smoke all I want, and often have (though not so much lately), but I've never gotten hooked on anything, not in the slightest.
On the other hand, my father and his father were alcoholics.
(My father got complete control of it once he realized that his professional life would collapse if he didn't. He quit when I was born and was thereafter able to keep alcohol in the house, strictly for guests, but never took a single drink in all the years I knew him.)
What bothers me about Wartrac's post is that I think he's being not only callous, as he half admits, to addicts ... but callous also to himself.
I think we have to harden ourselves a lot not to feel a natural compassion for anyone whose life is going down the tubes for any reason.
That doesn't mean we have to be sob sisters.
Compassion is not something we should dwell on or inflate.
But we begin with it naturally a piece of our beings, and when we're almost proud of squelching it, something's out of kilter.
Very common ... I'm sure I do this, too.
Fine. But Wartrac, that's the fault of the public and the media ... not the celebrities.
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Oh really? You are going to tell me that Celebs do not do things that are beyond acceptable public behavior just to attract attention to themselves? It's the evil media and celeb hungry public that makes celebs do everything to showing off their cooch while getting out of a car to gun charges to driving under the influence over and over again?
I smell another person who doesn't believe in accountability. This is why I don't have sympathy, more so regarding celebs.
And don't assume I don't have compassion regarding people having their lives going down the perverbial shitter. I said I was speaking about people that don't go for help that they need, or go back when that help doesn't work the first time. Celebs have means that your average citizen does not, that is called money. They can go to the best rehabs money can buy versus local dry tanks. So there is even less of an excuse to get help.
I work with my local Boy's Club and also work in the Big Brother program. Between my Military service, my father's death, my divorce and a lot of crap in between I've seen and done a lot for my somewhat still young age, to include drinking, a lot. I didn't drink everyday, but when I started to have a couple too many, it would turn into a lot too many. When you can polish off a 5th of Bombay Sapphire and everyone around you thinks you are still somewhat sober, that takes a special skill.
I don't have sympathy for a lot of celebs that have various substance problems because a lot of them do not have real problems....other than being famous and not being able to handle success. I would like to see some of these people bury their father, bury what was left of 3 of their best friends that were vaporized but yet you were lucky enough to just get hit with shrapnel that allowed you to walk away, but since you were the "lucky one" you get to go home and talk to the wives and children of your friends and tell them what happened.
Not to mention that a couple of the kids never even met their fathers so you have to tell them what he was like and also visit them once in a while to keep that memory alive as they get older and understand more about what happened. Which means you get to keep reliving that moment over and over in your head. Then go through a divorce because your ex-wife cannot handle your mood swings because of the all the things previously listed. Which just added more to the pile. Oh and by the way this all happened within 4 years. This doesn't even cover other things I've done in the Military prior (first enlisted in 89) and things that I also dealt with as a child, the list is rather extensive.
I saw I was heading down a bad path and sought help, for my sake and for my kids. Now I'm working out constantly, I can have a drink or two with dinner and be ok and like I said I'm volunteering with local kids to explain to them how life is in fact fucked up but it's no excuse to toss it away. Bad shit happens but you have the rest of your life to enjoy yourself and have good things come out of it. Wasting it with drink, needles, smoke, blow, X whatever, is nothing but a tragedy and a complete waste of something wonderful. Trust me I do use a little more tact with the kids when I talk to them:tongue:. I don't deserves a pat on the back for helping, the kids who take what I say and make the right decisions need to be applauded. They are making those life altering choices and making the right ones at early ages so they will have a clear head to battle their way out of whatever hurdle is in their way.
So no, my opinion regarding people not taking steps to help themselves regardless of why is valid. Everyone has a choice, everyone, period.
All I want to know is:
Who the fuck is Amy Winehouse and why the crap should I care about her lungs?
Exactly.
amy is an adult and she's responsible for her own actions. i do sympathize with her because she's so young and she's close to my age. however, she should be mature enough to understand the situation she got herself into.
Exactly again.
