Colton underwood- american football player

I genuinely felt so happy and relieved for him watching that interview. I can’t wait to see who he ends up dating.
Guys can someone read me to filth. I was a little upset when he came out. And I didn’t like it. I was upset because it’s yet another cute muscular sexy closeted guy getting notoriety for coming out while I struggle with self image issues and realized I need to be happy for him and support. I’m so happy for team gay but today I learned I have some growing up to do. Anyone wanna read me to filth some more I need it. Really happy for Colton but my jealousy got so inflamed ugh.
 
Nice misogyny you have there. Blaming the woman for his abusive and toxic behavior. Nothing excuses his behavior no matter what he was going through. He’s an adult and knew his actions were wrong...

The Bachelor's Cassie Randolph Files Police Report Against Colton Underwood After Messy Breakup

How is that misogynistic? He was using the "stalking" to hide his sexuality. I was drafting a theory. Have some sympathy. Get your mind out of the argumentative gutter. He obviously wasn't stalking her because he liked her or was interested in pursuing a relationship with her.
 
How is that misogynistic? He was using the "stalking" to hide his sexuality. I was drafting a theory. Have some sympathy. Get your mind out of the argumentative gutter. He obviously wasn't stalking her because he liked her or was interested in pursuing a relationship with her.
Perhaps read the post that I was replying to? The one that suggested he was stalking her because she might have blackmailed him? Insinuating that a woman is at the root of his problems without any evidence is misogyny.
 
Perhaps read the post that I was replying to? The one that suggested he was stalking her because she might have blackmailed him? Insinuating that a woman is at the root of his problems without any evidence is misogyny.

Wow, you're taking one point and twisting it into misogyny? So no one can have a simple theory that blames the woman? My theory can most certainly be valid. Ok, next...
 
He was recently accosted by paparazzi in New York. He looks so happy and free. You can tell a weight has been lifted off his shoulders.

He’s filming a Netflix series that documents his life as an out gay man. Are you guys planning on watching it?
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Guys can someone read me to filth. I was a little upset when he came out. And I didn’t like it. I was upset because it’s yet another cute muscular sexy closeted guy getting notoriety for coming out while I struggle with self image issues and realized I need to be happy for him and support. I’m so happy for team gay but today I learned I have some growing up to do. Anyone wanna read me to filth some more I need it. Really happy for Colton but my jealousy got so inflamed ugh.
Your feelings are valid. I’m not even that happy for him TBH. I think it’s insanely fucked up that he went on 3 seasons of The Bachelor while lying about his identity. I think he’s a narcissist and possibly a sociopath. Imagine the disregard he must have had for all those women’s feelings, and to intentionally mislead the public about who he is as well. Fuck this guy, he is a douchebag.
Still wanna see his nudes tho
 
Wow, you're taking one point and twisting it into misogyny? So no one can have a simple theory that blames the woman? My theory can most certainly be valid. Ok, next...
Yes. Misogyny. Look it up. Perhaps have some self respect and don’t be so quick to give an abusive guy a pass just because you found out he sucks dick. He’s never going to suck yours.
 
The dude spent multiple seasons on TV show watching women clamor for him whine knowing that he didn’t want to be with a female. Now, he set up a Netflix show about his “coming out” and embracing his “gayness” just before publicly “coming out”. And of course, he had to do the outing in a GMA interview. He put out a whole ass book last year and used his Bachelor experience and being so into girls to promote that book. He came off like an insecure douche while dealing with the “gay” rumors. His ex girlfriend last year accused him of stalking and putting a tracking device in his car.

There’s so much messiness and privilege here. And it doesn’t just get resolved by “coming out” on a morning show. This is partly why I wish the world didn’t make a big deal out of identities or “coming out” or wanting to be with your sex. People like him don’t deserve the fanfare and just use “queerness” to continue to play a game.
 
I’m super happy for him! Most of us know how much courage it takes to come out to your family and friends but coming out to a world with a completely heteronormative franchise on his back is unimaginable. He knows he’s not perfect and his behaviour was incorrect which all led him to suicidal thoughts, so to be able to recover from that and really trying to start a new life is in my opinion a great achievement. I’m sure he learned from his mistakes and will live his happiest life from now on.
This is exactly how I feel--super happy for him.

I really struggle with the judgement of how gay people manage their processing of their sexuality. The fact is, we live in a society that still does not fully accept sexual minorities and to hold us in the community to any standard is not respecting how individual that journey is. I relate to much of what Colton described in his struggle, I wasn't raised catholic, but I was a student athlete through undergrad and that community is even further behind in the acceptance of gay men...we still only have a handful of out gay athletes in the majors. Of course coming out does not excuse his prior bad behaviors, but he is not asking us to excuse them--they are for him to manage and rectify. I just hope he is happy and continues to be a representation to other young boys and men that have similar experiences of how they can emerge and hopefully not make some of his poor choices. No one is perfect.
 
Guys can someone read me to filth. I was a little upset when he came out. And I didn’t like it. I was upset because it’s yet another cute muscular sexy closeted guy getting notoriety for coming out while I struggle with self image issues and realized I need to be happy for him and support. I’m so happy for team gay but today I learned I have some growing up to do. Anyone wanna read me to filth some more I need it. Really happy for Colton but my jealousy got so inflamed ugh.
Your feelings are valid. He'll get the immediate acceptance that a lot of people wouldn't not only because he now a celebrity but because he looks a certain way. You can be happy for him and still admit that it's sucks that there is a superficial standard in the community that met before he was even a part of the community.
 
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This is exactly how I feel--super happy for him.

I really struggle with the judgement of how gay people manage their processing of their sexuality. The fact is, we live in a society that still does not fully accept sexual minorities and to hold us in the community to any standard is not respecting how individual that journey is. I relate to much of what Colton described in his struggle, I wasn't raised catholic, but I was a student athlete through undergrad and that community is even further behind in the acceptance of gay men...we still only have a handful of out gay athletes in the majors. Of course coming out does not excuse his prior bad behaviors, but he is not asking us to excuse them--they are for him to manage and rectify. I just hope he is happy and continues to be a representation to other young boys and men that have similar experiences of how they can emerge and hopefully not make some of his poor choices. No one is perfect.

He may not be looking for an “excuse”. But he certainly didn’t confront any of that stuff in his “coming out” interview.

I get it. People make mistakes. Everyone has their own journey. Religious shame, closet pressures, hetero pressures, toxic masculinity, mental health issues, queer insecurities, trying to understand the dynamics of your particular sexuality, fluidity, contradictions, confusions as far as where you are in the gender, romantic, sexual, affection, emotional investment, commitment spectrum- all of that shit is real. And I sympathize with all of that. But a “coming out” does not present a clean slate. Nor does it automatically make him “positive representation” just because he was in the NFL. The dude still spent years on TV lording over a bunch of women he knew he didn’t want. He didn’t have to bring his mess to TV. He still recently put out a book depending on his Bachelor experience and hetero appeal for sale. He still stalked and tracked a chick. Now, he’s quickly using his “gayness” to get him more attention and get him gigs. At the very least the dude is a narcissist and a manipulator. And he’s perhaps a scammer. All of that doesn’t go away because he publicly attached himself to “gay”. But because he’s a decent looking white guy with a fit body who is semi famous and played in the NFL we’re supposed to forget about shit?

He doesn’t deserve to be shamed forever. But he needs to take ownership of his behaviors. He still has shit to clean up. And he could have partially done that in his interview, which is chose not to.
 
He may not be looking for an “excuse”. But he certainly didn’t confront any of that stuff in his “coming out” interview.

I get it. People make mistakes. Everyone has their own journey. Religious shame, closet pressures, hetero pressures, toxic masculinity, mental health issues, queer insecurities, trying to understand the dynamics of your particular sexuality, fluidity, contradictions, confusions as far as where you are in the gender, romantic, sexual, affection, emotional investment, commitment spectrum- all of that shit is real. And I sympathize with all of that. But a “coming out” does not present a clean slate. Nor does it automatically make him “positive representation” just because he was in the NFL. The dude still spent years on TV lording over a bunch of women he knew he didn’t want. He didn’t have to bring his mess to TV. He still recently put out a book depending on his Bachelor experience and hetero appeal for sale. He still stalked and tracked a chick. Now, he’s quickly using his “gayness” to get him more attention and get him gigs. At the very least the dude is a narcissist and a manipulator. And he’s perhaps a scammer. All of that doesn’t go away because he publicly attached himself to “gay”. But because he’s a decent looking white guy with a fit body who is semi famous and played in the NFL we’re supposed to forget about shit?

He doesn’t deserve to be shamed forever. But he needs to take ownership of his behaviors. He still has shit to clean up. And he could have partially done that in his interview, which is chose not to.
Plus the fact that countless gay people have been able to work through their journey to an authentic life without resorting to stalking an ex partner, putting tracking devices on their cars, sending threatening text messages, repeatedly walking by their apartments and calling them, etc.
 
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He was recently accosted by paparazzi in New York. He looks so happy and free. You can tell a weight has been lifted off his shoulders.

He’s filming a Netflix series that documents his life as an out gay man. Are you guys planning on watching it?

No because he's still boring as fuck, even as a gay man.
 
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Guys can someone read me to filth. I was a little upset when he came out. And I didn’t like it. I was upset because it’s yet another cute muscular sexy closeted guy getting notoriety for coming out while I struggle with self image issues and realized I need to be happy for him and support. I’m so happy for team gay but today I learned I have some growing up to do. Anyone wanna read me to filth some more I need it. Really happy for Colton but my jealousy got so inflamed ugh.

It's fine each one comes out in their own way, you know different families with different beliefs, sometimes it's easy sometimes not.
 
He may not be looking for an “excuse”. But he certainly didn’t confront any of that stuff in his “coming out” interview.

I get it. People make mistakes. Everyone has their own journey. Religious shame, closet pressures, hetero pressures, toxic masculinity, mental health issues, queer insecurities, trying to understand the dynamics of your particular sexuality, fluidity, contradictions, confusions as far as where you are in the gender, romantic, sexual, affection, emotional investment, commitment spectrum- all of that shit is real. And I sympathize with all of that. But a “coming out” does not present a clean slate. Nor does it automatically make him “positive representation” just because he was in the NFL. The dude still spent years on TV lording over a bunch of women he knew he didn’t want. He didn’t have to bring his mess to TV. He still recently put out a book depending on his Bachelor experience and hetero appeal for sale. He still stalked and tracked a chick. Now, he’s quickly using his “gayness” to get him more attention and get him gigs. At the very least the dude is a narcissist and a manipulator. And he’s perhaps a scammer. All of that doesn’t go away because he publicly attached himself to “gay”. But because he’s a decent looking white guy with a fit body who is semi famous and played in the NFL we’re supposed to forget about shit?

He doesn’t deserve to be shamed forever. But he needs to take ownership of his behaviors. He still has shit to clean up. And he could have partially done that in his interview, which is chose not to.
This doesn't sound like you "get it". It sounds like you have heard those comments in conversations before and choose to not accept that they hold real meaning and value to some people.

Again, I don't think at any point, he has asked anyone, nor have I asked anyone to forget the things he's done wrong.

How do you and how did you want him to correct all of those wrongs in two 8 minute segments on GMA?

I am fine giving him the opportunity to do better; me shaming him and wanting to flog him through the streets feels unwarranted at this point and is generally not for me.
 
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