How comfortable are men with being nude in communal showers and locker rooms in your country or culture?

[Janvier75]

I don’t think this had anything to do with “male bonding” I feel gay coaches made these rules around the country to look at naked men. Also, women and girls were never forced to share their bodies with the world the way boys and men were. I’m attracted to men, but I don’t like the exploitation of men. I feel men’s nudity should be covered outside of male only spaces. These swimming pools had women and girls watching the boys and men swimming, which I find inappropriate, because nobody would have been ok with adult men and boys watching girls and women swim naked.

That’s not accurate. Men swimming naked in the early 20th century wasn’t about creating opportunities to see men naked. Throughout history, before swimsuits were invented, people swam either naked or in clothing, (with women typically covering up due to societal norms around protecting their modesty and virtue.) Back then, men being naked while swimming was simply the norm, so it naturally carried over to public pools, gyms, and other male-only spaces. Most men didn’t feel violated or humiliated—it was what they were used to. While some men, especially those with specific beliefs about nudity or existing body image issues, might have felt uncomfortable, the majority saw it as just the way things were. Swimsuits for men were later introduced in coed public spaces, like beaches, where women were present, but male-only spaces like the YMCA often didn’t require them because modesty was seen as a concern only for women. The idea of male nudity being normalized in these settings was shaped by the cultural attitudes of the time, which didn’t associate male nudity with vulnerability or immodesty. While it’s possible that some people may have taken advantage of these norms to sexualize men, the practice wasn’t designed for that purpose—it reflected the worldview of the era. Similar cultural norms exist in some Indigenous societies today, where men are naked and women cover up their genitalia, and this isn’t driven by a desire to expose men but by cultural attitudes toward gender and modesty.

 

[mikyang]

Let's not get too silly here.

Indoctrination begins within moments of birth and continues until the moment you move it if your parent's home.

It's called "child rearing" or "parenting".

whats wrong with parenting??

 

[mikyang]

I don’t think this had anything to do with “male bonding” I feel gay coaches made these rules around the country to look at naked men. Also, women and girls were never forced to share their bodies with the world the way boys and men were. I’m attracted to men, but I don’t like the exploitation of men. I feel men’s nudity should be covered outside of male only spaces. These swimming pools had women and girls watching the boys and men swimming, which I find inappropriate, because nobody would have been ok with adult men and boys watching girls and women swim naked.

well thank god i stopped since i dont want to see man or woman naked in public places

 

[mikyang]

That’s not accurate. Men swimming naked in the early 20th century wasn’t about creating opportunities to see men naked. Throughout history, before swimsuits were invented, people swam either naked or in clothing, (with women typically covering up due to societal norms around protecting their modesty and virtue.) Back then, men being naked while swimming was simply the norm, so it naturally carried over to public pools, gyms, and other male-only spaces. Most men didn’t feel violated or humiliated—it was what they were used to. While some men, especially those with specific beliefs about nudity or existing body image issues, might have felt uncomfortable, the majority saw it as just the way things were. Swimsuits for men were later introduced in coed public spaces, like beaches, where women were present, but male-only spaces like the YMCA often didn’t require them because modesty was seen as a concern only for women. The idea of male nudity being normalized in these settings was shaped by the cultural attitudes of the time, which didn’t associate male nudity with vulnerability or immodesty. While it’s possible that some people may have taken advantage of these norms to sexualize men, the practice wasn’t designed for that purpose—it reflected the worldview of the era. Similar cultural norms exist in some Indigenous societies today, where men are naked and women cover up their genitalia, and this isn’t driven by a desire to expose men but by cultural attitudes toward gender and modesty.

well part yes but the other part was boys and man were just dirty and were not as clean as woman

 

[SwissSwede]

In Scandinavia we have always had a very natural view of nudity. It is completely normal to be naked. We still have very few nudist beaches and if you want to be naked, just go a bit further and shed your clothes. When I went to uni we had the same sauna at the student dorm for guys and girls, nothing special.
Now things are slowly changing. Influence from puritan USA or immigrants, mostly from muslim countries??? I think it is both. Whatever the explanation, it is sad and a shame!!!

 

[mikyang]

In Scandinavia we have always had a very natural view of nudity. It is completely normal to be naked. We still have very few nudist beaches and if you want to be naked, just go a bit further and shed your clothes. When I went to uni we had the same sauna at the student dorm for guys and girls, nothing special.
Now things are slowly changing. Influence from puritan USA or immigrants, mostly from muslim countries??? I think it is both. Whatever the explanation, it is sad and a shame!!!

oh why? i want to share my naked body with my boyfriend husband not the whole friggen world.

BUT i do think that if people want to get naked in the locker that is there choice.

if you want to go to a nude beach fine but dont go into the city and get nakd

 

[SwissSwede]

oh why? i want to share my naked body with my boyfriend husband not the whole friggen world.

BUT i do think that if people want to get naked in the locker that is there choice.

if you want to go to a nude beach fine but dont go into the city and get nakd

I don’t think there’s any culture where you would head downtown naked…. ;-))
Being naked in appropriate places is sth completely natural.
This religiously influenced hypocrisy towards nudity is something I really dislike. Religions have always taught us to be ashamed of our bodies, to control people and belittle them. And that is one more thing I dislike about religions. I say ”fuck them”. Bodies are beautiful. If they are sexually attractive is of course in the eyes of the beholder and a completely different topic.

 

[Trekrider]

Now things are slowly changing. Influence from puritan USA or immigrants, mostly from muslim countries??? I think it is both. Whatever the explanation, it is sad and a shame!!!

Same as what is happening in Australia. A couple of years ago a surf club required that people shower with clothes on, and just last week a rule was brought in for the swimming pools run by my local council that forbids g-string type swimming costumes. Since the new wave of mass migration is from cultures that don't accept nudity or the uncovered body, it's obvious that it will only get worse. Political correctness also deems that people must never be 'offended', which also plays a part in the demise of change room nudity.

 

[hzs3fg]

whats wrong with parenting??

Nothing at all. I'm just pointing out that indoctrination begins at birth and comes in may forms.

 

[NotAHeterosexual]

well part yes but the other part was boys and man were just dirty and were not as clean as woman

Boys and girls and men and women were forced to shower before getting in the pool, so this doesn’t make sense. The other excuses that were made is the material that men’s swimsuits are made of can damage the pool, as if the makers of the men’s swimsuit can’t just make it from the same material women’s swimsuits are made of.

 

[NotAHeterosexual]

Same as what is happening in Australia. A couple of years ago a surf club required that people shower with clothes on, and just last week a rule was brought in for the swimming pools run by my local council that forbids g-string type swimming costumes. Since the new wave of mass migration is from cultures that don't accept nudity or the uncovered body, it's obvious that it will only get worse. Political correctness also deems that people must never be 'offended', which also plays a part in the demise of change room nudity.

I get fucking sick of the west just giving into the demands of Islamic immigrants, who would NEVER change their societies to accommodate us. They run to our countries to turn them into Islamic ones. They think they are too good to live in another nation that shares their values. You are right, it will keep getting worse. Laws will change to accommodate them, like no PDA in public, to eventually banning gays and lesbians, forcing the hijab on all women and requiring Islamic prayer in schools, just watch.

 

[NotAHeterosexual]

That’s not accurate. Men swimming naked in the early 20th century wasn’t about creating opportunities to see men naked. Throughout history, before swimsuits were invented, people swam either naked or in clothing, (with women typically covering up due to societal norms around protecting their modesty and virtue.) Back then, men being naked while swimming was simply the norm, so it naturally carried over to public pools, gyms, and other male-only spaces. Most men didn’t feel violated or humiliated—it was what they were used to. While some men, especially those with specific beliefs about nudity or existing body image issues, might have felt uncomfortable, the majority saw it as just the way things were. Swimsuits for men were later introduced in coed public spaces, like beaches, where women were present, but male-only spaces like the YMCA often didn’t require them because modesty was seen as a concern only for women. The idea of male nudity being normalized in these settings was shaped by the cultural attitudes of the time, which didn’t associate male nudity with vulnerability or immodesty. While it’s possible that some people may have taken advantage of these norms to sexualize men, the practice wasn’t designed for that purpose—it reflected the worldview of the era. Similar cultural norms exist in some Indigenous societies today, where men are naked and women cover up their genitalia, and this isn’t driven by a desire to expose men but by cultural attitudes toward gender and modesty.

Why do women’s modesty and virtue need to be protected, but not men’s? What makes their body more sacred than ours? I don’t want the world to see my reproductive organs or the reproductive organs of boyfriends that I have. Only my eyes can be on his and his on mines.


It doesn’t make sense to me, I get what you are saying and agree with it all, but men and women’s bodies need to be covered up and I’m glad society has changed to normalizing men also being covered. Nudity is fine in male only spaces or female only spaces, but the male only spaces aren’t always male only, sometimes women enter into our spaces because they feel they have that right, while men are never allowed in female only spaces.

 

[mikyang]

I don’t think there’s any culture where you would head downtown naked…. ;-))
Being naked in appropriate places is sth completely natural.
This religiously influenced hypocrisy towards nudity is something I really dislike. Religions have always taught us to be ashamed of our bodies, to control people and belittle them. And that is one more thing I dislike about religions. I say ”fuck them”. Bodies are beautiful. If they are sexually attractive is of course in the eyes of the beholder and a completely different topic.

i am not saying dont be naked but i am saying be modest balance in everything. Well even in churches there naked angels.

 

[mikyang]

Boys and girls and men and women were forced to shower before getting in the pool, so this doesn’t make sense. The other excuses that were made is the material that men’s swimsuits are made of can damage the pool, as if the makers of the men’s swimsuit can’t just make it from the same material women’s swimsuits are made of.

thats why it didnt make any sense the womans suits were just as dirty. even ann landers said boys should go nude in swimming pools

 

[mikyang]

I get fucking sick of the west just giving into the demands of Islamic immigrants, who would NEVER change their societies to accommodate us. They run to our countries to turn them into Islamic ones. They think they are too good to live in another nation that shares their values. You are right, it will keep getting worse. Laws will change to accommodate them, like no PDA in public, to eventually banning gays and lesbians, forcing the hijab on all women and requiring Islamic prayer in schools, just watch.

just remember they have the resturants and stores from americans and british

 

[mikyang]

Why do women’s modesty and virtue need to be protected, but not men’s? What makes their body more sacred than ours? I don’t want the world to see my reproductive organs or the reproductive organs of boyfriends that I have. Only my eyes can be on his and his on mines.


It doesn’t make sense to me, I get what you are saying and agree with it all, but men and women’s bodies need to be covered up and I’m glad society has changed to normalizing men also being covered. Nudity is fine in male only spaces or female only spaces, but the male only spaces aren’t always male only, sometimes women enter into our spaces because they feel they have that right, while men are never allowed in female only spaces.

thats what i never understood even today when you enter the police force mans heads have to be shaved and womand have to have a ponytail but with the ponytail you have something to grab on too

 

[NotAHeterosexual]

thats what i never understood even today when you enter the police force mans heads have to be shaved and womand have to have a ponytail but with the ponytail you have something to grab on too

That makes no damn sense at all. Some jobs even force men to shave their beards, saw a man have to shave his thick beautiful beard infront of all his cheering coworkers, because he refused to do it for the longest time even though it was a requirement. Two coworkers came in with scissors and razors and went to town on his beard. He consented to it but didn’t seem happy about it.

 

[NotAHeterosexual]

thats why it didnt make any sense the womans suits were just as dirty. even ann landers said boys should go nude in swimming pools

Why would a WOMAN push for boys and only them to expose their entire bodies for everybody to see? What did she get out of it? I wonder if she enjoyed seeing it? Women should have been forced to get naked too.

 

[mikyang]

Why would a WOMAN push for boys and only them to expose their entire bodies for everybody to see? What did she get out of it? I wonder if she enjoyed seeing it? Women should have been forced to get naked too.

invasion of privacy here it is

 

[SwissSwede]

Same as what is happening in Australia. A couple of years ago a surf club required that people shower with clothes on, and just last week a rule was brought in for the swimming pools run by my local council that forbids g-string type swimming costumes. Since the new wave of mass migration is from cultures that don't accept nudity or the uncovered body, it's obvious that it will only get worse. Political correctness also deems that people must never be 'offended', which also plays a part in the demise of change room nudity.

Yes, I agree. How can you be offended by a naked body?? It is the same problem as when we victimize a woman because of the clothing. Absolutely ridiculous. And both things probably commented by people who have a problem with their own sexuality.