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Just a few tips for the trans Lovers/Friends Of LPSG

Discussion in 'Ask a Transgender Person' started by MizzSummers, Nov 10, 2014.

  1. Englishmansabroad

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    Wait a second. I realise this thread is old, and also there's good intentions here, but porn " dilutes" peoples ideas of trans girls?.So what are we saying here?.Trans women and self identified she males are really diluted/ impure versions of "real" trans women?.

    I think you have to be a bit careful where all this stuff is going. There's an intolerant side to political correctness, and a whole issue of exclusion/ gate keeping you're not going into here, ie. WHO decides who is a "real" trans person ( often not us but the medical profession and Benjamin's WPath)!?.

    I know people can't run before they walk, but someone should talk about the other side too. The sanctioned way to transition excludes whole categories of people- "she males", autogynephiles, gender neutral etc.In the case of the first to, there is a DEsexualisation, as bad as the hyper sexualization.

    We can't patronise trans people in those communities by saying they are all forced into those roles.We need access to advice, hormones and surgery- plus acceptance of ALL types of trans and gender people both in the cis and trans communities.
     
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  2. MizzSummers

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    I am not quite sure what you are getting at. what I am saying is that men tend to assume we are all sluts that are just put onto this earth to full fill their fetish fantasies and we often get treated like sex workers in real life because of it.

    And as someone who does advocacy work for all type of gender non conforming roles, the term trans is not one of them. That term was created to market sex workers and it basically has the same equivalency as calling a trans woman a Hooker or a Slut. Also in the gender spectrum that isn't listed. So there are no people who identify as " trans's" and generally that term is used by porn or by fetish Cross dressers who like the sexuality of the word. And out of the thousands of tran women I have met from all over the world, not one has ever Identified as a "trans".

    So here is the Wikipedia link regarding the Term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/trans

    As for me or anyone else in the forum forcing people into roles they are not intended for , I would never do that. I work with a broad spectrum of gendered people, from Cis, to fluid, to trans to Non Binary. I would never ever assume someones Gender. Also Trans is an umbrella term, short for trans-gendered, that covers a broad spectrum of gender identity. So saying someone is trans is literally saying they are part of the community. I have also mentioned in past posts that Peoples medication is none of anyones business, You don't need giant breasts and a bunch of plastic surgery to be trans and i have also told guys to not compare us to hyper sexualized women.. So I am not to sure what you are getting at.

    This Forum is about answering questions, and that has been what has been happening. .

    xox

    Savvy
     
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  3. MizzSummers

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    You actually have it completely right. Sexuality is different then gender. And genitals don't equate to gender. So men having sex with trans women is considered heterosexual sex becuase it's between and man and a woman . And trans lesbians having sex together is still lesbian sex as its between two women. :p

    You answered your own question. :)

    Xox
    Savvy
     
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    I just told my lesbian best friend. She looked at me like " Why are you telling me this" and then said "I know".

    I believe there are lesbian women that do not know all about the diversity of the sexual world, just like how there are gay men, and straight men and straight women. So them not knowing this doesn't mean its not true. Just like how some cisgender people who aren't trans attracted assume that trans attracted men are gay because all they are considering is the genitals.

    This is a common misconception alot of uneducated (on the topic) people have. But thats why its good to correct people. And if they choose to ignore you, then that is on their ignorant ass. lol. I alsways tell the haters " OK have fun with your outdated views I am just focusing on the future"


    xox

    Savvy
     
  5. MizzSummers

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    Hello <3

    Believe it or not but its actually super common for gay men to like trans men. Just like how (even though our friend from above doesn't agree) Lesbian women to like trans women. The amount of free drinks i have had purchased for me from lesbians is proof of this. And its because of the same reasons Most Heterosexual men and women like trans people.

    Doctors believe it's actually because most transsexual men and women tend to be Hyper masculine or feminine, not all but the majority. And for your instance as a homosexual man you in general would be attracted to well.. masculinity. . Keep in mind this isn't everyone, but its a lot more common then most think. And with that Hyper masculine, or feminine energy, the genitals take a backseat, or become almost like a Sexy juxtaposition and it arouses people more.. all like.. One of these things is not like the other.. BUT I LIKE IT!

    Inst sexuality cool and weird at the same time!
    YAY

    xox

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    Bless your heart for this thread.
     
  7. MizzSummers

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    I think its my turn to ask some of you some questions.

    So to all my trans attracted friends I do have a few questions:

    1.When did you realize you were attracted to trans people? Was it something that kinda was always there, or was there like an "AH Ha" moment?
    2. Have you ever actually been with a Trans person? (no need for the Gorey Details, just curios)
    3. Are you out and open about your attraction? I am a ware that there is still stigma for trans attracted men/women.
    4. Would you consider dating a trans person long term/ marrying them?
    5. Has this Forum helped at all? Ant Feedback?

    Look forward to hearing from you ♥♥
     
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    I like trans
     
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    I love trans so much
     
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    Since you have been so gracious to answer all the questions posed to you, I thought it only fair that I answer the ones you asked:

    1.When did you realize you were attracted to trans people? Was it something that kinda was always there, or was there like an "AH Ha" moment? I had an interest since my mid 20's (all due to porn) and in the last,probably, 5 years became very interested in transgirls
    2. Have you ever actually been with a Trans person? (no need for the Gorey Details, just curios) I have not. I did have the opportunity to watch a transgirl and my ex-gf have sex on a few occasions
    3. Are you out and open about your attraction? I am a ware that there is still stigma for trans attracted men/women. I am open in certain circles. The vast majority of my friends are very active in the local swinger community, and being so are very non-judgmental about such topics. I also openly speak about it in my podcast.
    4. Would you consider dating a trans person long term/ marrying them? I am very open to the idea.
    5. Has this Forum helped at all? Ant Feedback? This thread has been super educational. I am hoping to learn even more.
     
  12. 1263126

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    Okay, I realize that you posted these question like a year ago, but I'll answer anyway. :)

    1) A few years ago. I don't think that it was always there. One day when looking at porn I watched a hot scene with a tgirl and that was probably my moment of "Ah, ha, this tgirl is so fucking hot."
    2) Not yet.
    3) Not out.
    4) Dating long term, yes. Marry, I really don't know at this point.
    5) Yes, it has helped. Thanks a bunch, Mizz Summers. :cool:
     
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    I agree with you 100% Miz Summers. I am a fellow Canadian and my women of choice are transgender. A lot of that attraction is based on their femininity. I'm an old fashioned guy who still pays for dinner and opens doors. I worship women and the feminine is what I adore. TGirls are the most feminine women I have met. I am truly blessed to have met a few and am a better person thanks to them.
     
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    Thank you for the information MizzSummers...
    You’re beautiful.
     
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    I listen a lot to the various transfolx in my life, from former t-girl (her term to define that period of her life) to cabaret and club owner, burlesque performer and community anchor who is very vocal in her defense of the working girls in the industries (with all the issues those entail given the criminal dangers to women working the lack of concern and so on) and in porn in general. My academic friends tend to use intersectional feminism which seems to align with some of your perspective and is also influenced by trans activism artists and actors. I don't use the words that these women choose (except where it is as above, erasure to replace her self determination) to work under or that porn expects them to wear as marketing and sales strategies and I try to balance all of it without inserting myself too much into it, because while T is in LGBTQ it ain't my lane. I want to support what you are asserting about the stigmatization of transwomen especially when the language is fetishizing, ciscentric and from the power end of the trade (even as the terms can and do get reclaimed by some). Just as there are terms for gay men that are more acceptable for daily use, there are terms (rentboy, cumdump, b**ty boy etc) that are used in the trade still and by many with rich fetish sex lives but generally not for everyday use.

    The sticking point of sexwork (for me and not just for trans sex workers) is always between the necessities of the demand for sex, the economics of the urban landscape, crime and victimization and lack of resources and the dignity and personhood of the sex trade workers and their autonomy. I have experience, and some of it is great and some of it is hella shitty. People chose to treat me a certain way because of perception of less than worth. It is real and it is part of the landscape for all sex work. I really wish transfolx were not put in the position economically in many cases of not being able to easily transition in the way they want because health care covers this essential treatment and work. We have made some progress here in Canada, but miles and miles more to go. It is clear that when many folx encounter the concept or transfolx beyond news items, it is through the objectification of porn. I think the rule of thumb is always people are people not things first and foremost and the terms used to define what someone is or is not when you are naming them from outside shouldn't come from porn. Jizz hungry grandma is certainly a genre but no one uses that term at a wedding or even a McDonald's Drive Thru.
     
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    What about cross dresser? Do you like them too?
     
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    Crossdressers do not appeal to me sexually. Women appeal to me and Tgirls are women, crossdressers are not.
     
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    i really love so much trans than women ,don't know why
    i find trans more sexy
     
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    So I had a question, I notice that most Transwomen are into men, not all but most. So where do we ladies go for dating advice in your opinion.
     
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    Big hugs.
    I'm so ignorant about transitions etc, so I'd probably make mistake and say rude things without knowing it (I try to do my best anyway) but I feel you can suffer a lot and I want to support the rights of every trans person out there.
     
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    I didn't see this addressed in the thread, but in your original post you note that the term 'trans' is both offensive and acceptable.

    Will also add, your post is immensely appreciated!
     
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    Trans lovelies give me life! Been wit my trans BF for 5+ years and he's more blokey than I am xD and I'm friends with so many trans guys, girls, and NB folks that rock hard! Some with their cocks out! Others brandishing cocks/packers.
     
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    Yes and thank you for this, sis! Fellow trans femme with small estro-boobies here.
     
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